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@GL I don't actually haha, can you link?

flipless nightless

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I wish more players would comment on chickadee's mistake, kokichi oma's interrupting the spamcounting, and teacher's mistake around that time. It's definitely at least a little AI and not a lot else is, so please @everyone comment on that or point me to something more interesting to talk about

it's hard for me to put a ton of stock either way in Chickadee's mistake, but it by no means looks unfakeably genuine to me - having a hard time understanding Pine's townread there, it feels forced. Like to the point where if Chickadee is town then I think Pine may be scum giving a tactical townread for buddying/towncred purposes. And I agree that Chickadee showing up immediately again after the second mistake also looked unusual. Plus her defense seemed to miss the point of what you were saying - she said she was busy and couldn't be monitoring/counting constantly and this wasn't AI, but your original point was that she was around to jump in again as soon as the count got reset.

Kokichi's interrupting was dangerous but I don't see it as scummy

teacher's mistake I see as likely a real mistake, I've had other posts show up with no p-edit before mine in other games

[GuiltyLion]

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I'm totally fine with voting any of {NK/Chickadee/Pine/Mylo} but would prefer NK/Chickadee as I think they are the most actively scummy whereas Mylo just hasn't really played yet and Pine is always kinda standoffish and scummy. Chickadee's "hey you're a lurker where is your content" question to Mylo looks to me like it could be either SvS or SvT, but either way it looks worse on Chickadee than Mylo. But if you all hard commit to Mylo then I'll vote him instead, most of all I want a decent 4/5 person consensus on a wagon to reduce the odds of someone else randomly getting lynched. If we fail to come up with a plan and we have a smattering of votes across the board, higher odds for town to get flipped and it's easier for scum to be able to explain away tactical votes

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I'll bump it up to 255

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and there we go

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Please stop putting words in my mouth.

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Also, as the last couple posts show, Im inclined to go back to spamming, calling on the followers, and using gaps at the handoff and preview edit to involve new people. Anybody disagree?

WRT teacher, this kind of insistence on multitasking is what's going to screw us up.

It looks like it's what screwed Chickadee up (who I am otherwise TRing)

. Finish the task first.

This is what I actually said. Exaggerating it to act like I pronounced an unassailable lockTown read is super disingenuous. It's early game, I have a light TR for her tone. You are welcome to disagree, but I don't like being taken grossly out of context.

[GuiltyLion]

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Chick's error and response to it seems genuine, like she's honestly pissed at herself.

this is the part that I was focusing more on

she could easily be honestly pissed at herself
she could also easily be scum pretending

don't see why you're particularly inclined to choose the former and - speaking of words in one's mouth - I don't see where I said you were unassailably locktowning her

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I wish more players would comment on chickadee's mistake, kokichi oma's interrupting the spamcounting, and teacher's mistake around that time. It's definitely at least a little AI and not a lot else is, so please @everyone comment on that or point me to something more interesting to talk about

it's hard for me to put a ton of stock either way in Chickadee's mistake, but it by no means looks unfakeably genuine to me - having a hard time understanding Pine's townread there, it feels forced. Like to the point where if Chickadee is town then I think Pine may be scum giving a tactical townread for buddying/towncred purposes.

And I agree that Chickadee showing up immediately again after the second mistake also looked unusual. Plus her defense seemed to miss the point of what you were saying - she said she was busy and couldn't be monitoring/counting constantly and this wasn't AI, but your original point was that she was around to jump in again as soon as the count got reset.

Kokichi's interrupting was dangerous but I don't see it as scummy

teacher's mistake I see as likely a real mistake, I've had other posts show up with no p-edit before mine in other games

Bolded.

No, you didn't say "unassailably locktown", those are my words, but you're making my read into something it's not. Sure, Chick's reaction could be faked. I don't think it is.

There is literally nothing more to the statement than that. I know early on in a game you have to grasp at straws and make mountains out of molehills, but I am saying now that I don't appreciate having my simple statements blown out of proportion or context.

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so to align here, you're saying it could be fake, but you don't think it is, therefore you're townreading her

and I'm saying the fact that it could easily be fake (in my opinion) gives me little reason to townread it. hell she could even be scum who honestly messed up and is pissed at an unintentional mistake making her look worse

so therefore I don't really get why you want to give her a townread based on that and therefore I could see it as a scum-motivated townread. I still don't really see where I've blown anything out of proportion or context

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Elephant, who is your preference between Mylo and Chickadee

Anybody else want to weigh in on those two, or NK/Pine?

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hard to say, let me reread

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probably chickadee. mylo hasn't produced much ai content but has done nothing to ruin the count. chick has ruined the count hard and had scummy content occasionally.

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hbu teacher?

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I was fairly indifferent between the two. VOTE: Chickadee to get a consensus through tonight.

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heee heee I think Ive had all these numbers.

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handoff.

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