OPEN 732 : PICK YOUR POWER X/Y (GAME OVER)

[Enigma]

duckling wants to modkill me for quacking, try me

QUACK

[OkaPoka]

how is voting everyone an elaborate scheme as scum?

[Enigma]

how is voting everyone an elaborate scheme as scum?

I'm saying I don't think you could fake your current play (i.e. generally lost on where you want to vote/pressure and voting everyone without much logic/reason) as scum, and it would be elaborate if you did (well you would have me fooled...)

[OkaPoka]

@everyone except ap

is there a reason to townread what AP is doing this game besides the hammer? I feel like he is coasting this game, which he didn't do in Donner Party.

[skitter30]

ap makes the most sense here, but i also think he is unlikely to confuse his scumpartner with someone else, unless he was faking that part.

yeah so this is the main reason why i'm thinking he's not scum, because he's pretty game-aware and/or self-aware and ... i have trouble seeing him do this to a partner or scum

the thing is that i don't really have a reason to townread him otherwise from this; he's just kinda around and talking about setup stuff but besides for like his oka push early game he hasn't really pushed anywhere this game; like i don't really see him trying to find scum or like ... do anything

[OkaPoka]

that is lame reason

self-aware is more of a personality thing not a alignment thing IMO

[skitter30]

idk, i have a hard time seeing him forget who his partner is based on prior games i've played with him; and i don't think he faked that

that's really the only town-indicative thing he's done tho imo

[Skygazer]

Actually I do see AP coasting

Also I don't see scum skitter defending AP even lightly under these circumstances?

VOTE: AP

[ofrhz]

ok fine

VOTE: AP

[OkaPoka]

@ofrhz, so do you think AP hammered his scumbuddy on accident or was it part of a ploy? explain

[ofrhz]

I think I'm here right now (town to scum):

skitter, bujaber, ceejay, ruru, okapoka
sando, AP
skygazer, vulcan, enigma
ausuka, cardi, invis

can you explain more of these reads ofrhz? specifically I'd want to hear the reasoning for your reads on me and cjv.

One more for Ausuka, why were you, after ruru flip, interested in ofrhz (+you/cjv) given she is the last one on the draft?

Nothing to do with the draft! I just thought she was scum.

Me and cjv were the reads I found most questionable.

I would love to see ofrhz answer this actually

answer the bolded?

- voting vulcan for doing not actively contributing when not really scrutinizing invis when he did basically the same thing
- some of your reads don't feel real, especially the push on skitter

You went through the invis votes and singled out Cardi and ofrhz iirc?

like this part. i know you don't have a problem with wagon analysis because you were suggesting we lynch on the enigma wagon before enigma even flipped, which i didn't like either

yesterday, i liked cjv's early pressure on enigma. i still think he's town for initially gutscumreading invis and then the L-1 vote on his wagon

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pedit: i think AP could have faked that accidental hammer. also if we have to lynch in those four people, i think AP is now the only person i'd be willing to lynch, because i think Invis kind of spewed town!vulcan in 543

[OkaPoka]

every other post orfhz makes me want to lynch him/her and the other half makes me think obv!town

I want to see AP comment or push something. I want donner party AP back.

[Sando]

@ofrhz, so do you think AP hammered his scumbuddy on accident or was it part of a ploy? explain

Did he actually claim the hammer was accidental? He claimed he thought CJs vote was actually Invis self-voting, but I got the impression he knew he was hammering.

[OkaPoka]

he could always be lying about that tho he didn't say that beforehand, its a matter of trust i guess i dk

[Sando]

he could always be lying about that tho he didn't say that beforehand, its a matter of trust i guess i dk

Yeah but he's specifically said that he knew he was hammering.

Sure, he could be lying about misreading the L-1 vote, but it's established by him that he knew he was hammering.

[ceejayvinoya]

since he knows Invis doesn't have a night action anyway.

He would have been assigned the KILL, since scum can't use their action AND kill at the same night!

Nice try though.

You all could be an all goon team for all I know.

[ceejayvinoya]

What are you trying to say there, Ceej?

I think he's trying to defame all the slots he can.

And curious to know why you saw it like this. I didn't even state anything on how that represents Vulcan's alignment at that point. Even Vulcan himself had to ask what it means...

VOTE: AP

[skitter30]

i actually really disliked that post from him since it looks like he's kinda shading you for questioning vulcan's activity but as far as i can tell he's not even townreading vulcan or anything, so it's strange to frame your observation as you 'defaming' vulcan when you hadn't attached an alignment-indicative meaning to that behavior yet

and it's also strange for him to imply that you've made a pattern of shading people because i don't really see you doing that anywhere

[ofrhz]

every other post orfhz makes me want to lynch him/her and the other half makes me think obv!town

.................lol

go take it up with the mod. there aren't supposed to be any mid-game alignment changes in this setup

[ofrhz]

ALL ABOARD THE AP HYPE TRAIN

DESTINATION: VICTORY

CHOO CHOO

[the worst]

VOTE COUNT 2.9

Sando (0)

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skitter30 (3)

~ Ausuka, OkaPoka, vulcan logician,

AP (3)

~ Skygazer, ofrhz, ceejayvinoya,

Cardi B (0)

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Music (0)

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Ausuka (0)

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Skygazer (0)

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vulcan logician (2)

~ skitter30, Enigma,

ceejayvinoya (0)

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ofrhz (0)

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OkaPoka (0)

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Enigma (0)

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NOT VOTING:

Sando, AP, Cardi B, Music,

with 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

day one will end in (expired on 2018-08-05 09:00:00)

mod notes:

- skitter30 v/la Fridays & Saturdays
- quack

[Skygazer]

policy lynch enigma for upsetting tw

VOTE: Enigma

[Skygazer]

VOTE: AP

[Sando]

Hmmm, my 3 favourite wagons are all going at the same time. I think, surprisingly, I'm gonna jump on the AP wagon. I felt D1 was pretty town from AP meta-wise, but not so much with the D2. The posts are markedly less content driven and they're also skirting the edge of misinformation with the PGO/Vig hypothesising.

VOTE: AP

Skitter is outside her town-play, but I don't know whether to put that down to IRL issues or scum. I very much doubt Skitter would ever use IRL as an excuse for in-game advantage in being read, so I think I'm happy for her to carry that question mark for a while and judge later.

Vulkan has been a target of mine for a while but whilst I hate it, I'm yet to see a scummer ever actually ask for the amount of attention Vulkan has been asking for.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: ap

let's be real here ap isn't going to say much that will change our minds unless we get a drastic change of character and playstyle right this moment, so best play is to get a claim from him

l-2 btw