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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:08 am

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In post 2374, mutantdevle wrote:Yes. You forget the simple principle that someone who knows they are town also knows that if they solely decide the lynch then scum would have no influence in it.
Yes. It does make you more suspect if you misfire, however. And a Day 1 and Day 2 lynch that is essentially random doesn't have good chances to hit scum.
But maybe you are right and it could be misguided town. Which fits to Aronis attitude.
I need to reconsider.
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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:16 pm

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In post 2372, Blind Bandits wrote:VOTE: Skip to the election


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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:16 pm

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If I’m president I’m lynching orfhz
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:37 pm

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In post 2373, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 2370, mutantdevle wrote:You also criticise how he claims his reads are bad yet he wants to run for president? Why do you apply that criticism only to him when I have said and done the same thing except more successfully?
Key difference: You wanted to enforce basically a vote.
Aronis wanted to act on their own.
And that is what bothers me, probably more than everything else said by Aronis.
Your motivation to be president was to try out normal voting, basically, because you didn't trust your reads nor did trust others. That is understandable from a town point of view.
However, Aronis motivation to be president was that they wanted to decide for themselves who was scum, and hopefully catch them, or so they said.
But if Aronis knows themselves and says that they cannot read people properly... how does this fit? Why should someone who thinks that their reads are bad rely on these reads so much that they want to be president and lynch based on their own reads? From a scum point of view, that's perfectly understandable:They want to lynch town; and they don't need to have good scumreads to advance their wincon because they are scum, and know who to lynch.
From a town point of view... I cannot see this conclusion. Can you?
I can answer this! I felt a need to run for president because people like you had fucked things up so badly an Aronis presidency is pretty much town's only hope
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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:06 pm

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In post 2377, WhemeStar wrote:If I’m president I’m lynching orfhz
no >:(
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:36 pm

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Leave mutant party


Join Lynch Scum Day One Party
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:42 pm

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from one misguided party to another smh
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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:31 pm

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I’m not electing you like ever @Aronis. Same applies for Hebichan and Not Known 15.
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:40 pm

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I literally can't be elected, so no worries there.
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:41 pm

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In post 2382, 123456789 wrote:I’m not electing you like ever @Aronis. Same applies for Hebichan and Not Known 15.
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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:14 pm

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In post 2382, 123456789 wrote:I’m not electing you like ever @Aronis. Same applies for Hebichan and Not Known 15.
i'm literally not running for election anymore. I really don't care.
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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:18 am

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In post 2327, Psyche wrote:
In post 2317, skitter30 wrote:p sure that's a town post from mylo
and how many of this game’s mislynches were you on?
in a literal sense, none, given the mechanic of the game.

in a figurative sense of how many i supported - the second and third

either way i don't think this is particularly relevant for my read of mylo; he's hilariously out of his scum meta here

i played splatoon mafia with him a few months back, where he was scum. scum!mylo lurks and forces himself to produce half-hearted content. he'll like, put effort into doing isos and stuff. he's forced and tryhard and just kinda looks like he doesn't want to play and that he like forced himself to post.

town!mylo is around, will have real-time interactions, will do whatever if he's told it's helpful, will just lolpost. he's not very ocnfident in his reads, but he shares what he's thinking, even if he doesn't have any sort of conclusions. he's insanely transparent and open and jus there and there's no evidence of him being fake. he's just very honest and earnest and open.

his play as the two alignments are like night-and-day different.

like scum!mylo just doesn't pop in on a whim to change the name of the districts multiple times. he's too self-conscious to do anything like that as scum.

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@wheme: why do you want to lynch ofrhz again?

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wrt nk15

most of the things you cited in this post as being scummy aren't really scumtells. like 'fluff like getting pagetops' is a personality thing and not an alignment-indicative thing imo.

i think that you're at least partially pushing him for approaching the game differently than you

like when you say 'The key question of course is... why would someone who disvalues their reads this much want to be president, with a campaign for quick votekill?'. i think he's the type of player who wants to be president for the lolz of it in this game tbh, and his confidence in his reads isn't necessarily a super important factor.

'This looks strange, constructed. First Aronis says that they are not running for president, and then they say the ship sailed. If it were the other way around, it would not raise my eyebrows. The timeline doesn't look alright here.' - like this is you picking on the semantics/timeline of a pair of posts from like a month ago that were made three minutes apart and saying that it's inconsistent. in that timeframe, i don't think that's odd. (even in a larger timeframe i'm not sure that's odd)
In post 2352, Not Known 15 wrote:TL;DR:
Their contributions point towards them being a disruptively playing signaling Mafia when Mafia have daytalk...
signaling to Blind Bandits and MYLO, who are under suspicion...
or, to put it in other words, a
Traitor.
like ... a significant part of yoru case against aronis is: a) assuming that scum has a traitor b) assuming that it's aronis c) assuming that he's trying to signal to his scumbuddies mylo and bb.

like we don't know that a traitor is a thing, so specifically traitor-hunting is kinda silly. i don't think the mylo/aronis or aronis/bb interactions are signaling, i think he's just talking to them; like i don't know what you're seeing as being 'signaling-indicative' in those posts.

like i almost feel like you're looking for things to make him look scummy because ... most of the things you've quoted here aren't really scum-indicative. like you went through his iso and nitpicked a few posts you don't like but you haven't explained what's scummy about them.

and i don't get the mylo + bb + aronis team like at all; i'm pretty sure that mylo and aronis are town here. idk about bb but mylo/bb/aronis is silly, as is your reasoning for it. and building a team around criticizing aronis prefilp is just kinda meh.

like independantly of aronis how do you read mylo + bb?

and faking a guilty isn't exactly a good method of trying to get people to believe your case.

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In post 2357, mutantdevle wrote:Also, am I the only one that doesn't feel like we've made much progress in finding scum?

Maybe it's because I'm used to smaller games hence meaning day 4 with no scum lynched is a crisis point, but I'm really starting to worry that we're not getting anywhere.
nah i kinda feel the same

i think a very large part of why this game kinda feels like this is that we can't really vote at all and there's a built-in waiting period where we don't really do anything for a week, given that the parties seem kinda set; it's making it really, really hard for me to be motivated about this rn

VOTE: skip to election
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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:53 am

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In post 2380, 123456789 wrote:
Leave mutant party


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:(

May I ask the reason for this change?
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:04 am

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In post 2384, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 2382, 123456789 wrote:I’m not electing you like ever @Aronis. Same applies for Hebichan and Not Known 15.
Elect me
This may sound crazy but I genuinely think it's time to elect Wheme.

If Wheme is town, they have been fairly confident in a lot of what they are saying. As long as he doesn't go crazy with the power, I feel like he is likely to lynch scum as town.

If Wheme is third party, then his attitude towards this game and confidence in some reads seems like it comes from a role perspective. Hence I suspect he has some mechanical knowledge to call people scum or town on. He's clearly expressed that he'd want to work with the town as third party anyway.

If Wheme is scum then it just means another day of not lynching scum.


And if Wheme does lynch scum, that proves he is on our side. Which I think would also be quite nice (I could personally use the reassurance).
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:26 am

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what
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:26 am

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I want Wheme to be president because I think he has a good chance of killing mafia and if he does then we can trust him.
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:50 pm

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Mutant is smart
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:54 pm

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Sorry sorry forgot about this once again rip but I'm here yay sorry!
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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:54 pm

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Actually wait sorry I have to go sorry bye!
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:02 pm

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In post 2386, skitter30 wrote:scum!mylo lurks and forces himself to produce half-hearted content. he'll like, put effort into doing isos and stuff. he's forced and tryhard and just kinda looks like he doesn't want to play and that he like forced himself to post.

town!mylo is around, will have real-time interactions, will do whatever if he's told it's helpful, will just lolpost. he's not very ocnfident in his reads, but he shares what he's thinking, even if he doesn't have any sort of conclusions. he's insanely transparent and open and jus there and there's no evidence of him being fake. he's just very honest and earnest and open.
shush don't tell him i enjoy having someone i can always read correctly
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 2392, Myloninja13 wrote:Sorry sorry forgot about this once again rip but I'm here yay sorry!
In post 2393, Myloninja13 wrote:Actually wait sorry I have to go sorry bye!
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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:04 pm

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In post 2388, mutantdevle wrote:If Wheme is third party, then his attitude towards this game and confidence in some reads seems like it comes from a role perspective. Hence I suspect he has some mechanical knowledge to call people scum or town on. He's clearly expressed that he'd want to work with the town as third party anyway.
is there a reason to not just ask him if this is true or not
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:24 pm

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yall are electing people for acting confident..?
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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:30 pm

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In post 2390, mutantdevle wrote:I want Wheme to be president because I think he has a good chance of killing mafia and if he does then we can trust him.
what

why are you scumreading me
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:35 pm

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ruby what are your reads

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