NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Skygazer]

Still not really seeing how profii's posts indicate town? Like I could see them coming from town or scum so it's not really swaying me besides possibly the meta argument that I need to look into. Maybe I'm just being obtuse and not getting it.

[the worst]

he has a little bit of the fiyah I expect to see from town!Profii

[Taly]

TW, read on Sky/A50?

Sky, how is A50 starting a CW on xyzzy a point against profii when you say HWS fits the bill to be associated with profii?

[Skygazer]

Huh? I'm saying that A50 started the counterwagon and profii joined it so there are scum points to both there along with a possible association.

I'm also saying, independent of my A50 read, that HWS could fit the bill for a profii partner which is one of the reasons I was willing to compromise on a HWS lynch.

Is there a reason you're seeing those as related?

[Taly]

Also if we want to talk about survivalistic voting

Xyzzy voted HWS to L2 when they were at L2

Xyzzy voted profii when it got traction again and ended the HWS flashwagon.

But if you read Xyzxys readslist in 2482, neither Profii or HWS were in his bottom group for Mafia

Xyzzy also hasn't talked about his Inferno/Gamma scumread either

And Hits slot being scum is comical at this point

Most of the death pool have either vote hopped, voted to survive (or consolidate w/e), or voted without a lot of reasoning themselves.

[Taly]

Huh? I'm saying that A50 started the counterwagon and profii joined it so there are scum points to both there along with a possible association.

I'm also saying, independent of my A50 read, that HWS could fit the bill for a profii partner which is one of the reasons I was willing to compromise on a HWS lynch.

Is there a reason you're seeing those as related?

So you're saying both A50 and HWS COULD be associative to profii?

How does HWS for the bill for profii partner?

[Taly]

Xyzzy also hasn't talked about

their

Inferno/Gamma scumread either

[Skygazer]

HWS has been townreading profii for most of the game and profii hasn't said anything about HWS yet jumped onto the competing wagon.

And yes, I think they (HWS/A50) both could be looked at through some associative reading especially if profii flips scum which I still think is very likely.

[Skygazer]

You do make some good points about xyzzy looking survivalistic though.

[Skygazer]

I think I used some clunky wording regarding counterwagons on the last page: I was saying I could see xyzzy to dram D1 and a counterwagon to profii/HWS on D2

[Chickadee]

One or more of the main wagons today has to be scum. I don't see why else we're having this much trouble gaining traction. We've created too many places and reasons for scum to hide on separate wagons.

[Raskolnikov]

i think lynch xyzzy shoot almost50

[Raskolnikov]

maybe profii or sky they deserve the consideration

[Raskolnikov]

*invest profii or sky

i dont scumread sky though (but enough people do that invest'd be helpful)

[Taly]

What was xyzzy softing?

Rask can you elaborate on Sky not being a scumread to you?

I'm leaning towards your plan these past 3 posts

[xyzzy]

being willing to compromise on getting a lynch on someone who I think isn't the worst lynch option ≠ survivalism

like I want to avoid my own lynch obviously but my primary motivation for my last couple of votes has been being fine with the proposed lynch. similarly, the fact that I'm willing to lynch folks who aren't my very bottom scum read isn't bad—it's a conscious acknowledgement that I'm more confident in my town reads than my scum reads.

[xyzzy]

being more confident in my town reads than scum reads is deffo something that I am consistent about meta-wise btw. I generally feel much safer finding people I trust and following then than going on the attack

[brassherald]

VOTE: xyzzy

I can't cipher out that they are even trying to gamesolve.

[xyzzy]

I believe that's L-1 again jsyk

[brassherald]

It is, I was just hoping you would think it was an accidental hammer and admit to being scum or something...

Whatever, L-1.

[Raskolnikov]

what kind of souless reaction is this

[Taly]

So you have 4 townreads in a game full of claims, results, and a dead scum?

[Taly]

I'm still trying to find the clear scum motivation that half the playerlist sees in xyzzy

[brassherald]

I guess with no good reaction to my fakedhammer.

UNVOTE:

Xyzzy was still a counterwagon to scum yesterday. A scumread on Xyzzy, in my opinion, is a town read on A50 since his predecessor was the one who started the counterwagon. So, all people on the wagon, think about that please.

[HeWhoSwims]

I'm pretty open about that since iirc a big part of the case on Elbirn is stuff that I could easily see in my own genuine playstyle. And I don't think a51 did anything to make me scumread him...