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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:57 am

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Now you're just making me laugh.
So im not lying considering you said lying basically 4 times just to make sure your point got across
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:03 am

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MathBlade, all your reasoning about hypothetical bodyguards is based on the premise that scum have to kill it first because it stops them from killing their preferred target. If you had thought for two minutes about what the bodyguard actually does you would know this isn't true because they would just shoot at their preferred target and if a bodyguard prevents them it dies in exactly the same way as if they'd shot the bodyguard directly. This alone would be sufficient evidence that your hypoclaim is meritless, but there's also this:
In post 710, MathBlade wrote:Gonna be afk today and tomorrow. I am an okay mislynch if y’all can’t see I am town.
This is not something a protective role says. You're not a bodyguard and you're not fooling anyone into believing you might be.

I say you are Eevee's scumbuddy looking for an excuse to extend this 1v1 another day. There is just no way you have this strong an objection to resolving a 1v1 between protectives with no other PR to protect but were perfectly happy to push for a lynch of Fuzzy the uncountered cop claimant with a hidden protective still around.

This also explains perfectly why Eevee would counterclaim when he did. Ordinarily I'd think it was a bad decision vs. just shooting Pine that night, but if the only growing wagons were on him and his buddy Math then they had to do something drastic to avoid a scum lynch.
MathBlade wrote:If you think I am the bodyguard then please listen to your one PR role when they tell you to back off.

Scum are going to want to get rid of the PR. The proper play is always to force scum to NK PRs.

If you townread me trust me on this.
I don't townread you any more. Nor do I think you're a PR even if you are town. And even if I did, PRs aren't handed out according to reasoning ability so I see no reason to listen to you over and above anyone else. Nice AtE though.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:07 am

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Anyway, it seems you and Eevee have both declined my conditions.

VOTE: EeveeLution Army

That's a hammer.

If Eevee flips red, lynch MathBlade next. Else lynch Pine, then look at {MafMen, Hiraki, Wisdom}. Start with MafMen as a Hiraki-Wisdom team seems unlikely.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:18 am

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I guess town loses now if that is hammer, since pines gonna end up alive tomorrow night
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:25 am

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In post 1101, Umlaut wrote:MathBlade, all your reasoning about hypothetical bodyguards is based on the premise that scum have to kill it first because it stops them from killing their preferred target. If you had thought for two minutes about what the bodyguard actually does you would know this isn't true because they would just shoot at their preferred target and if a bodyguard prevents them it dies in exactly the same way as if they'd shot the bodyguard directly. This alone would be sufficient evidence that your hypoclaim is meritless, but there's also this:
In post 710, MathBlade wrote:Gonna be afk today and tomorrow. I am an okay mislynch if y’all can’t see I am town.
This is not something a protective role says. You're not a bodyguard and you're not fooling anyone into believing you might be.

I say you are Eevee's scumbuddy looking for an excuse to extend this 1v1 another day. There is just no way you have this strong an objection to resolving a 1v1 between protectives with no other PR to protect but were perfectly happy to push for a lynch of Fuzzy the uncountered cop claimant with a hidden protective still around.

This also explains perfectly why Eevee would counterclaim when he did. Ordinarily I'd think it was a bad decision vs. just shooting Pine that night, but if the only growing wagons were on him and his buddy Math then they had to do something drastic to avoid a scum lynch.
MathBlade wrote:If you think I am the bodyguard then please listen to your one PR role when they tell you to back off.

Scum are going to want to get rid of the PR. The proper play is always to force scum to NK PRs.

If you townread me trust me on this.
I don't townread you any more. Nor do I think you're a PR even if you are town. And even if I did, PRs aren't handed out according to reasoning ability so I see no reason to listen to you over and above anyone else. Nice AtE though.
Bodyguards die for their townreads be it through lynch or NK.

I have said similar when I was a bodyguard and hammered a scumJailkeeper in a game I was in and got NK’d night one and saved the masons.

I know exactly how to WiFoM scum if you only let me

Army being lynched was stupid and she flips town.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:27 pm

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In post 662, MathBlade wrote:You mean we’re amazing and caught you. Awesome.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:12 pm

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In post 1102, Umlaut wrote:If Eevee flips red, lynch MathBlade next. Else lynch Pine, then look at {MafMen, Hiraki, Wisdom}. Start with MafMen as a Hiraki-Wisdom team seems unlikely.
I have no idea why I momentarily thought Wisdom was on this list. {Mafmen, Hiraki, Lycanfire} as I said before.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:40 pm

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yay we lynched both prs
we're rocking this
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:15 pm

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Yeah I'm looking at Wisdom next for his implausible certainty.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:58 pm

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@mastina, is that a lynch?
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:30 am

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In post 1102, Umlaut wrote:VOTE: EeveeLution Army
That's a hammer.
<<< Indeed. >>>
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:31 am

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<<< MafMen has requested replacement. Seeking. >>>
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:31 am

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End of Day Votecount
EeveeLution Army - 6 (MafMen, Pine, Hiraki, TrinityNZ, Dunnstral, Umlaut)

Pine - 2 (EeveeLution Army, Wisdom)

Not Voting - 3 (Lycanfire, MathBlade, LuckyOtter)

6 to lynch.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:34 am

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I'm impressed at your dedication!
You really wanted to play mountainous!

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<<< Night 2 begins now.
Deadline will not be set until all slots are filled. >>>
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:19 am

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<<< Jingle replaces MafMen. >>>
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:19 am

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<<< N2 Deadline: (expired on 2018-07-27 16:19:46). >>>
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:47 am

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Night action is locked in, but I lack computer access.
While I can ALMOST mod this game on my phone, I can't quite manage the feat.
As such, day start to come once my mom stops using the computer.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:02 pm

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Umlaut
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Vanilla Townie
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Killed N2
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<<< Day Three begins. >>>
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:05 pm

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VOTE: Pine

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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:07 pm

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My thoughts exactly.

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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:02 pm

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What! How the fuck is this possible! Moderator lies! Bastard game!

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Say what you want. I went from L-1 and flushing out the Doc and getting her lynched in my place.

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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:04 pm

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Vote: Pine
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:14 pm

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<<Intent to vote Pine>>

I just don’t want this day to end yet til I can get a read on Jingle and Jingle can catch up and be off work sched from hell.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:03 pm

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i haven't read a damn thing in the last week, sup
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:07 pm

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it's prob best just to lynch this so there's less to talk about when one of us drop dead tomorrow. i doubt jingle can break the game, and even if he does, he's gonna die. if you think he's town and don't want to evaluate how badly you want to kill him, shouldn't you want to give him MORE time?

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