Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[Purrcocet]

yea he trying to finesse u

[Nancy Drew 39]

yea he trying to finesse u

This seems highly reminiscent of scum!Ank in Minuet. Lol

I don’t have a lot of experience - contrary to what Moment believes - of being pocketed but Ank taught me well. Lol

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi you still think you have a clue on how to meta me

Yes

[Kokichi Oma]

Yo @Momentum @Brian Skies
kokichi red pm yes no maybe so?

Yo @Momentum @Brian Skies
kokichi red pm yes no maybe so?

It's something I've been considering.

Why does he keep telling me that he “needs [me] in this game”? He didn’t do that in Minuet.
In that game, his only concern regarding me, was sorting me correctly.

Especially since I was clearly wrong about mylo. Him valuing my input so highly doesn’t make sense based just on him townreading me. And then when I said I didn’t think Wisdom scumslipped, he was annoyed with me.

@Kokichi , are you pocketing me here?

Yes you caught me

[Kokichi Oma]

And I only told you that once. You're blowing it out of proportion

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yo @Momentum @Brian Skies
kokichi red pm yes no maybe so?

Yo @Momentum @Brian Skies
kokichi red pm yes no maybe so?

It's something I've been considering.

Why does he keep telling me that he “needs [me] in this game”? He didn’t do that in Minuet.
In that game, his only concern regarding me, was sorting me correctly.

Especially since I was clearly wrong about mylo. Him valuing my input so highly doesn’t make sense based just on him townreading me. And then when I said I didn’t think Wisdom scumslipped, he was annoyed with me.

@Kokichi , are you pocketing me here?

Yes you caught me

And I only told you that once. You're blowing it out of proportion

Sorry but once is still suspicious.

[Spiffeh]

How do people feel about Maria's play around Mylo now that the latter has flipped scum?

Because I think it's slightly sketch on the surface but am town reading the rest of her content so I would like others' thoughts

I think she's town

What changed your mind from yesterday?

[Dunnstral]

How do people feel about Maria's play around Mylo now that the latter has flipped scum?

Because I think it's slightly sketch on the surface but am town reading the rest of her content so I would like others' thoughts

I think she's town

What changed your mind from yesterday?

nothing, because I said she was town yesterday

[MariaR]

In most fakegod games it's 3 scum based off that logic bussing in stuff like this seems very stupid unless someone was very confident in there scum game that they could carry to the end and honestly no one in this playerlist strikes me as someone with an impressive scum game so I don't think that logic fits here.

Spoiler: lot of VCs

VoteCount 1.4

Nancy Drew 39 [2] - Katsuki, Nosferatu
Spiffeh [4] - Wisdom, Ankamius, Sakura Hana, Purrcocet
Sakura Hana [2] - projectmatt, Kokichi Oma
Katsuki [1] - Nancy Drew 39
Nosferatu [5] - Moment, TehBrawlGuy, Brian Skies, Dunnstral x2

Not Voting [4]

- MariaR, zMuffinMan, Spiffeh, Myloninja13

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

VoteCount 1.5

Nancy Drew 39 [2] - Katsuki, Nosferatu
Spiffeh [5] - Wisdom, Ankamius, Dunnstral x2, Sakura Hana
Sakura Hana [2] - projectmatt, Kokichi Oma
Katsuki [1] - Nancy Drew 39
Nosferatu [1] - TehBrawlGuy
Myloninja13 [1] - Brian Skies
Dunnstral [2] - Spiffeh, Purrcocet
MariaR [1] - Moment
Brian SKies [1] - MariaR

Not Voting [2]

- zMuffinMan, Myloninja13

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

VoteCount 1.6

Nancy Drew 39 [1] - Katsuki
Spiffeh [2] - Wisdom, Ankamius
Sakura Hana [1] - projectmatt
Katsuki [2] - Dunnstral x2
Nosferatu [6] - TehBrawlGuy, Sakura Hana, Moment, Brian Skies, Purrcocet, Nancy Drew 39
Brian SKies [1] - MariaR
Wisdom [2] - Nosferatu, Spiffeh
zMuffinMan [1] - Kokichi Oma

Not Voting [2]

- zMuffinMan, Myloninja13

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

VoteCount 1.7

Spiffeh [1] - Ankamius
Sakura Hana [1] - projectmatt
Katsuki [2] - Nosferatu, Katsuki
Nosferatu [2] - TehBrawlGuy, Purrcocet
Brian Skies [1] - MariaR
Wisdom [2] - Spiffeh, Dunnstral x2
zMuffinMan [1] - Kokichi Oma
Myloninja13 [4] - Wisdom, Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment

Not Voting [3]

- zMuffinMan, Myloninja13, Nancy Drew 39

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

VoteCount 1.8

Sakura Hana [1] - projectmatt
Katsuki [1] - Katsuki
Nosferatu [4] - TehBrawlGuy, Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39, Purrcocet
Wisdom [2] - Dunnstral x2
zMuffinMan [1] - Kokichi Oma
Myloninja13 [7] - Wisdom, Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, MariaR

Not Voting [2]

- zMuffinMan, Myloninja13

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

VoteCount 1.9

Sakura Hana [1] - projectmatt
Nosferatu [2] - Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39
Wisdom [2] - Dunnstral x2
zMuffinMan [1] - Kokichi Oma
Myloninja13 [8] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Wisdom
projectmatt [1] - TehBrawlGuy

Not Voting [3]

- zMuffinMan, Myloninja13, MariaR

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

Vc's like 1.6 and 1.8 don't make me think Nos is scum but I think 1.6 to 1.7 is one of the more telling VC's in the set looking at said vote counts I think moment is one of the worser looking people in this. I was townreading them for how they were scumreading me for buddying and that's not really false but I'd like to hear if I'm coocoo or not for suspecting that I imagine'd they would be voting me here but it doesn't seem like they are. If they were I'd still believe the read but now it feels like something they just tried to bite into.
I still dislike Dunnstral but perhaps it's a case of me not understanding something so I'm calling it scummy? Like I still can see him flipping scum but the thing giving me cold feet is I can't see anything that I find scummy in his iso besides the early game play it's mostly nullish.
I'd like to know why people tr Purrcocet as well I doubt I'd get a lynch there but it is for sure someone in my sights of wanting to vote if I had to make a pool of suspects at the moment it'd be
(Purr Moment Muffin Dunn) but the problem here is as I said in the top part of my post I doubt scum bussed. If it was near the end of the day that's ok but early on like moment did I'm a bit "eh" on it's why brain isn't in my pool of suspects right now. if Muffin is scum like I'm thinking I doubt Sakura is
I don't get the project matt scumreads either unless it's based on vcs

[MariaR]

that was a bunch of world vomit that I could've sorted better but I just kinda started typing and didn't stop eee

[MariaR]

Kokichi what is your Sakura read.
Also regarding wisdom a few of his posts made me raise an eyebrow but I can't really read him the only time I was able to correctly read him was when his posts were super agreeable/mind melding.

[MariaR]

let's see what happens if we have competing wagons

VOTE: nos

Nosferatu [5] - TehBrawlGuy, Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39, Purrcocet, Wisdom
Myloninja13 [5] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh

VOTE: mylo

l-1

I'll let wisdom answer himself but these are the posts I went "hm" on so why did you do this?

[MariaR]

Like I'm looking at mylons iso and it still doesn't spark me as scummy so I want to know the reasons why the wagon started but obviously I was incorrect with this being the easy lynch given the only few wagons that happened were the following: Kat (town) Nos (town) Wisdom (eh) Muffin had 2 votes too I believe at one point but I doubt that's a wagon. So where does that put us. My VC logics makes me think bussing only happened very late or not at all but my personal sr logic points at a dif direction thinking it could be possible because mylon didn't seem like a legit scumread? Am I wrong in mylon was voted mostly for lurking not for being "scummy"

[MariaR]

Of course the time I feel like saying word vomit everyone leaves me but when I wanna take a nap and I'm half awake the thread BLOWS UP reeeeeeee

[Nancy Drew 39]

let's see what happens if we have competing wagons

VOTE: nos

Nosferatu [5] - TehBrawlGuy, Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39, Purrcocet, Wisdom
Myloninja13 [5] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh

VOTE: mylo

l-1

I'll let wisdom answer himself but these are the posts I went "hm" on so why did you do this?

I’m kind’ve questioning if he would really do something that obvious as scum. Wisdom is a really good scum player, based on what I observed in Labrynth. \_0_/

[Dunnstral]

if I had to make a pool of suspects at the moment it'd be
(Purr Moment Muffin Dunn)

Try again

[Dunnstral]

I still dislike Dunnstral but perhaps it's a case of me not understanding something so I'm calling it scummy? Like I still can see him flipping scum but the thing giving me cold feet is I can't see anything that I find scummy in his iso besides the early game play it's mostly nullish.

What should be giving you cold feet is yesterday I was scum because I -would have- voted mylo or something but today I'm not town because I didn't vote mylo

[MariaR]

I still dislike Dunnstral but perhaps it's a case of me not understanding something so I'm calling it scummy? Like I still can see him flipping scum but the thing giving me cold feet is I can't see anything that I find scummy in his iso besides the early game play it's mostly nullish.

What should be giving you cold feet is yesterday I was scum because I -would have- voted mylo or something but today I'm not town because I didn't vote mylo

I don't understand what you're saying here can you reword it.

[MariaR]

I also wish you would stop focusing on only the points that surround you and using them to cast shade/discredit my saying and focus on the other parts. It's not helpful it never has been

[Dunnstral]

let's see what happens if we have competing wagons

VOTE: nos

Nosferatu [5] - TehBrawlGuy, Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39, Purrcocet, Wisdom
Myloninja13 [5] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh

VOTE: mylo

l-1

I'll let wisdom answer himself but these are the posts I went "hm" on so why did you do this?

When he moves to Mylo there isn't really a chance to get a nos wagon going anymore

[MariaR]

What's the point of asking a question to someone if people are just gonna answer for him. >_>

[projectmatt]

i've been working all weekend. i'll post content after tomorrow.

in the meantime, does anybody want to explain why they think im scum? i saw something about "posturing scumreads on people on the mylo wagon" but that's vague.

[Moment]

It bothers me that Matt isn't on this wagon.

that's fair. for full disclosure, ive been spending the last day re-thinking my reads because im pretty positive my initial assessments were wrong and that my reads are off. i'll post more of my thoughts on this later.

i'm not super opposed to this wagon but i don't think it's really going to garner that much information, regardless of the flip. i'll hammer on it before the deadline if we need.

Matt, would you mind elaborating on why you weren't opposed to the Mylo wagon?

[Wisdom]

@maria ive been struggling to keep up and form reads in this game so my nos vote was meant to generate some reactions i could use
I moved back to mylo when nothing much happened

[Moment]

Oh, I kind of skipped over the Maria discussion. Having read back through the game during the night, I didn't think that scum Maria would talk about the Mylo wagon the way she did. I'd imagine that scum, seeing their partner go down, would almost always choose to try to gain some kind of credit from it rather than make a defense that would certainly be futile. Some of these quotes should show what I'm referring to:

Spoiler:

Sakura I still have as a scumlean but not as hard as before because I feel like she's voting anything that walks.

yeah that's what i'm doing, kinda.
Dunno why that lowers your scumlean tho.

I don't remember you being as reckless as scum.

Also the mylongninja wagon is bad it's a 3 person lurker that will give no info regardless of the flip.

Will vote Mylo if it reaches 16 hours or less and then when that flips town Brain Muffin and Dunn all go in the grinder

If you explain yours I'll happily do the same. Even though I've done that about twice already (besides muffin)
Pedit: Mylo is the easy lurker lynch that scum are going to grab onto for a free mislynch. Nothing Mylo has done looks that towny or scummy to me but the way votes are happening it's telling all in itself.

Like I kid you not i'd bet money scum prob in there head be like "oh shit partner getting wagoned let's wagon mylo" I don't see Mylo flipping scum although it is a great info lynch to see where everyone makes an excuse to scumread next so I don't mind them dying per say
Pedit: I already explain mine kind of to friend!
Pedit2: Never said that

The fact wagons have tried to get started and then lead back to Mylo is telling in itself that we were wagoning scum most likely at one point and then it just went back to Mylo but hey go nuts and wagon town I'll hear all your excuses D2

In contrast to scum betraying their knowledge of everyone's alignment, I feel like comments such as these betray a

lack

of informedness.