Mini 2017: Encore Mafia - Now Without Cults [Endgame]

[implosion]

VOTE: Pine

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 4.02

[3] implosion ~ mastina, Myloninja13, Awoo
[2] Errantparabola ~ mutantdevle, Pine
[1] Pine ~ implosion

[2] Not Voting ~ BulletNLynchproof, Errantparabola

With

8

alive, it's

5

to lynch!

Deadline is at (expired on 2018-08-06 17:51:28).

[mutantdevle]

VOTE: pine

[mastina]

Implosion's recent responses give me cold feet on him.

I don't see why.

VOTE: errantparabola

(And so on.)

VOTE: pine

(And so forth.)

See, BNL?

This

is what happens when you unvote an L-1 player when we were on the precipice of getting a fucking lynch.

The wagon on scum begins to fall apart, and then multiple wagons on players that are town begin to spring up in its place.

[implosion]

yes mastina

the fact that Awoo unvoted me and then immediately revoted me two minutes later
and the fact that devle, who was not voting me to begin with, and chose to vote a different person that is not me

this is proof that i am scum and that the wagon on me is a wagon on scum that is falling apart

[implosion]

and yes
he definitely shouldn't have unvoted me when i was at l-1 with two people not having posted yet
can you for the love of god please stop tunneling and acknowledge that there are other people who could be scum.

[mastina]

yes mastina

the fact that Awoo unvoted me and then immediately revoted me two minutes later
and the fact that devle, who was not voting me to begin with, and chose to vote a different person that is not me

this is proof that i am scum and that the wagon on me is a wagon on scum that is falling apart

The quotes I presented weren't indicative of everything and you damn fucking well know it and are pretending otherwise.

My point is there was momentum on you, L-1, with intent.
BNL unvoted.
Then all of these happened:

VOTE: ErrantParabola

VOTE: errantparabola

VOTE: implosion

VOTE: Pine

VOTE: pine

What are all of those?

Exactly what I said:

This

is what happens when you unvote an L-1 player when we were on the precipice of getting a fucking lynch.

The wagon on scum begins to fall apart, and then multiple wagons on players that are town begin to spring up in its place.

[Awoo]

*The town win condition has been updated: shut mastina up by doing whatever she says today*

[implosion]

the wagon literally didn't fall apart after BNL unvoting, it was literally the only unvote from my wagon

[implosion]

It's all beside the point though.

[BNL]

mastina I really didn't want a hammer when two people haven't posted yet. Unless you are really confident with implosion being scum, it'll be rude to end the day so fast.

[BNL]

Ok so I weighed the possible options and I think I still like this

VOTE: implosion
L-1

[implosion]

Suppose I flip town.

What are your thoughts from there between Pine/EP or others?

[Awoo]

"well i guess we should lynch someone else now"

[Errantparabola]

implosion is acting like he knows he’s gonna flip town

[Myloninja13]

So I'm still here but like not at the same time lol.

[mutantdevle]

Myloninja I had a dream that you got replaced by someone who doesn't even exist and you were posting like "wait what, why was I replaced" in this thread and you were complaining about it which got you site banned.

Also, there were zombies and I'm pretty sure I was eaten whilst reading mafia but that's dreams I guess.

[Pine]

implosion is acting like he knows he’s gonna flip town

Implosion!scum is the last of his kind, and has no reason to plan for after his death.

EP needs rope.

[BNL]

Suppose I flip town.

What are your thoughts from there between Pine/EP or others?

I’m not really sure. Probably EP first, because I’m finding his defence of you to be quite weird.

I’m still scumreading you the most though, with one of the reasons being, you seemed like posturing to vote Gmma yesterday.

[Awoo]

Implosion!scum is the last of his kind, and has no reason to plan for after his death.

Yeah there has never ever been a game where mafia has said they would flip town and considered some scenarios afterwrds hmm you might be right

[implosion]

I’m not really sure. Probably EP first, because I’m finding his defence of you to be quite weird.

What do you think of my points on EP and on Pine? EP's defense of me probably at least partially looks strange because we have significant meta history.

I’m still scumreading you the most though, with one of the reasons being, you seemed like posturing to vote Gmma yesterday.

How am I posturing when I agreed at the beginning of the day with Awoo on a Pine/Maragnal top list? I don't understand how I could openly talk about my reads without it looking somewhat like posturing; if you look at my town meta, you'll find the exact same thing. Sure, I eventually flipped from Pine to Maragnal/gamma as my top suspect, but that hardly means I'm scum who was posturing. It means I had been meaning to re-look at my read on Maragnal, got around to revisiting it and found myself disagreeing with what I had thought. Similarly today I had been meaning to look more at EP, and did, and now found myself agreeing more strongly with what I had been saying. Sure, I could have been scum posturing, but doesn't that also make perfect sense as town trying to figure out which of their reads are accurate as the scum pool is being whittled?

Implosion!scum is the last of his kind, and has no reason to plan for after his death.

Yeah there has never ever been a game where mafia has said they would flip town and considered some scenarios afterwrds hmm you might be right

Yeah I don't understand how Pine can think this is a towntell for me to the degree that he's implying here... it's such a shallow reason to give for townreading me, especially when I've ostensibly started tunneling him and he's literally completely ignoring that.

[Pine]

Exactly what benefit would engaging with your irrationality give me, Implosion? As either Town or scum?

If I ignore you, it's because I don't see any good coming from such a debate.

[implosion]

Exactly what benefit would engaging with your irrationality give me, Implosion? As either Town or scum?

If I ignore you, it's because I don't see any good coming from such a debate.

If you're town, avoiding a mislynch on you down the line?

If you are town and think you're right on me being town, and it looks like I'm going to be lynched today and it's unclear what happens tomorrow, I feel like you should be looking a lot more worried than you are. Especially with me basically trying to use my dying breath to get people to lynch you tomorrow.

[implosion]

Also pretty damn condescending to just blanket call everything I've been saying irrationality without engaging with a single thing that's been said basically all game

[implosion]

like

on day two, you said this:

VOTE: pine ISO this guy for a laugh. Pushes on town the whole day, avoids the mafia. Contributes nothing.

Wow, butthurt much? I

always

usually lurk D1 because my D1 reads are usually crap.

Hint: the only people with perfect reads are the informed minority, aka scum.

And I found that incredibly frustrating, because it's drastically, drastically missing the point not only of day ones, but the point of fucking mafia as a game.

Now, you are claiming to be town who sees me, another townie, with incorrect opinions on both you and on EP... and you're refusing to engage and explain why those opinions are wrong. You're refusing to engage with anyone else on my wagon that you implicitly disagree with, or really engage directly with anyone. And that, too, is incredibly frustrating to see from an experienced player who I've seen better from. And it really makes me feel bad about considering you as town, because I know you're capable of much more protown behavior (as both alignments, but certainly as town), yet you seem to have no interest whatsoever in it.