SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Shoshin]

Hey Dunn, what're your reads?

[Shoshin]

What's a plausible team here?

Shepard, Pun, the worst, and guac?

Like, I just can't figure it.

Krazy's probably town mostly because Chara felt town.

DV's ????? he pocketed the shit out of me all game plus he's been super disengaged from the game, to a point that's inexcusable (yes I was disengaged at various points but I've done my best to force myself to engage even though I don't want to because I know it's important for town)

Dunn/Espe doesn't make any sense to me. Their claim doesn't make sense. I don't get why they fucked with their rankings just to win a pointless bet. Like, it just doesn't make sense to me. Both have also been sort of lurking all game, not really doing much.

Dunn feels town when he posts. Espe doesn't. But Fire investigated these guys innocent.

Fire's come under a lot of suspicion but I just see how he's scum here. He crumbs his role early, he's got one of those ranking-based roles that probably isn't faked, and he claimed early enough on D2 that it just doesn't make any sense if he's scum. He's a sloppy player, so I don't think the way he claimed is scummy, nor do I think the fact that he didn't submit a night action is scummy - though I'm curious, does Errant send out messages asking people to submit their action? Can anyone speak to that?

I dunno, that's where I'm at. No idea what to think. Nobody feels genuinely town except Vax.

Shepard has hints of town and hints of scum. The problem is he's really good as scum, and everyone here who thinks they can read him is just wrong about why they think he's town. Like, they bring up all these generalities that don't ever get into the substance of what he's doing. Pun can't even refer me to a specific post from Shepard or a specific town-tell. Neither can Guac. LIke, to me, that's fucking bullshit. If you can't point to a specific post from Shepard that makes him town, your read is wrong, period. Shepard is better than ever getting caught because of some general feeling you have that he's town when he's actually town.

I've been suspicious of Pun since D1. His early rankings didn't feel genuine at all to me, especially his early read on Vax. The way he's defending Shepard also feels fake as fuck, so fuck it, I'm calling them out as partners. That's my best guess at this piont.

I'd add Guac to the mix, since he's also defending Shepard for absurd reasons. Then I add the worst too since he's been defending Guac and he's been voting me over Shepard all game, so it just seems to fit better than any other explanation.

Scum having killing power makes sense in this game, given all the crazy roles. I can explain that if you want, but it's pretty simple - town has quite a bit of power, and specifically protection against vigs. I'm ranking immune so apparently the ranking vig can't kill me either. It makes sense that scum would have a weak killing role of the sort Pun has claimed. It also makes sense that scum would have bulletproof and other sorts of protection.

And that's me vomiting my thoughts, which are messy and stuff because I'm actually super lost in this game and don't have confidence about any of what I'm saying.

[guacamole]

I'd add Guac to the mix, since he's also defending Shepard for absurd reasons.

Incorrect. I've been saying Shepard's insistence on questionable mechanics to the point of obsession is a playstyle tell. There's a big difference between that and defending.

[Shoshin]

You don't think he'd obsess over mechanics as scum? C'mon, that's just wrong.

Shepard's tells aren't ever that simple or general.

[Shoshin]

It's crazy to me that the players who townread Shepard aren't even remotely paranoid that he could be scum.

I also don't get why Shepard isn't questioning these players... like, how can someone who always talks about how great he is as scum not question players who townread him this easily?

[guacamole]

You're totally misunderstanding. I don't townread Shepard.

[the worst]

guacamole is a mafia traitor.

[the worst]

in other words they're a guaca....MOLE!

[guacamole]

You're totally misunderstanding. I don't townread Shepard.

Pedit: lol

[guacamole]

wtf double post?

[guacamole]

I don't like this browser, you can't hold down the back button to go back several pages.

[the worst]

confess your crimes, SPYcy avocaDOOM dip

[Vaxkiller]

Hey you guys got like 10 min, i dont even have time to explain whats going on in RL

[the worst]

Yup

[the worst]

what's up?
tic tac toe?

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[Vaxkiller]

Looking at latest mod post cshpe neds one more vote

[Vaxkiller]

im totally willing to be that vote, but if you guys still wanna talk ill wai tuntil tomorrow asometime

[the worst]

Don't really think CShep is scum

[Vaxkiller]

Like how? DO you ahve an explaination for his actions and for why hes still alive?

[Vaxkiller]

Well im willing to put my honor on it

[the worst]

I feel like I've pretty much checked out of the game since the night action fiasco last night. He just doesn't seem scummy and it seems like a completely ridiculous ploy for scum!CShep to throw down.

but eh. I'm confused and kinda want blood.

[Shoshin]

I don't townread Shepard.

I'm confused.

[the worst]

also he's a player I would trust Pun's read on within reason but that's kinda just icing on the cake

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: C-shep

[Vaxkiller]

I know im right on this.