Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Sando]

You mean the constant diversions and vanishing when he's the topic of conversation but hyperposting making the thread unreadable when I am?

Wat? Vanishing? When?!

Beetlejuice.

Point to any diversions or vanishing...have fun with that scum.

[stungun0404]

if we keep titus alive based off shiro plus ank, then we should similarly keep sando alive based off ankamius’s late vote on sando until we hear more from ankamius, right?

which means katsuki might be a decent lynch after all

[stungun0404]

@Stun, you gave that as a detailed readwall when Creature looks like Creature is his reads? FA locktown is obvious. 90% of that readwall is filler.

There's also deprication, demotivation and lack of sorting. Koichi is anti-town and stupid but town because he is? That is superficial at best.

the problem i have here is your readslist came off a lot less concrete and similarly displayed a lack of sorting. do you understand what i saw when looking at your readslist, or do i need to show you?

[stungun0404]

i don’t think sando’s showed a lack of sorting, fwiw. but i’m just talking about my impression of the one titus gave out, to show the logic applied there doesn’t make sense to me

[Sando]

if we keep titus alive based off shiro plus ank, then we should similarly keep sando alive based off ankamius’s late vote on sando until we hear more from ankamius, right?

which means katsuki might be a decent lynch after all

Scum are likely just delaying game at this point until I become like Mylo was yesterday, the only viable lynch.

[stungun0404]

kokichi and creature happen to be frustrating reads for all, but gun to your head, @sando where are you placing them? town or scum?

[Sando]

kokichi and creature happen to be frustrating reads for all, but gun to your head, @sando where are you placing them? town or scum?

Creature as town. Kokichi...urgh...seriously gun to my head, Town, but I'm not happy about it.

[Sando]

kokichi and creature happen to be frustrating reads for all, but gun to your head, @sando where are you placing them? town or scum?

Scum creature doesn't survive to end-game with this player list, just don't give him powers and you'll be fine reading him.

[Titus]

@Stun, you gave that as a detailed readwall when Creature looks like Creature is his reads? FA locktown is obvious. 90% of that readwall is filler.

There's also deprication, demotivation and lack of sorting. Koichi is anti-town and stupid but town because he is? That is superficial at best.

the problem i have here is your readslist came off a lot less concrete and similarly displayed a lack of sorting. do you understand what i saw when looking at your readslist, or do i need to show you?

I don't pretend my reads list is deep or shattering. Kinda hard to read players by motivation when people keep fearmongering me constantly. I have burned almost everyone here as scum. If the only conversation is Titus is great at scum, then I can't read people based on their processes at all. I read people by motivation and Titus is great at scum omg is easy for both alignments.

[Titus]

if we keep titus alive based off shiro plus ank, then we should similarly keep sando alive based off ankamius’s late vote on sando until we hear more from ankamius, right?

which means katsuki might be a decent lynch after all

Scum are likely just delaying game at this point until I become like Mylo was yesterday, the only viable lynch.

Would you lynch Katsuki then? While I don't trust you, I wanna see what happens if we both jump and trust Ank to verify us tomorrow.

[Nancy Drew 39]

As for fear mongering, the whole we'd elect Shiro but the sky falls if I get a power?
Let's look at this objectively.

1) I lynched scum D1 with an unpopular theory that scum voted for FA.
2) I was the counterwagon to scum.
3) With my power I elected a group that was selected by and with town.
4) I picked a verifiable power.
5) I haven't oversold, lied or cheated.

The argument against me is merely that I'm good at scum and it pisses me off.

Simple requests to keep posts down are viewed as toxic. I have gotten instant opposition to every theory I propose because it is me saying it.

Can we drop the nonsense and just treat me like any other slot?

Do you not understand how important it is to town to ensure the safety of a player who can link to the dead? And no, we can’t do that because I don’t believe you really gave Ank a power and we cannot risk him picking you. The only way I’m not voting you is if Shiro guarantees he won’t pick you. Why? Because no one will vote him for leader unless he commits to not picking you and that puts him in danger of being NKed. Hopefully town PRs can maybe keep him safe tonight and/or scum kills elsewhere but the point is, we have to submit D4 leader picks

before

your slot can be resolved. I’m willing to wait,

so long as Shiro agrees not to pick you

. I’m not willing to risk SM’s safety over yours.

[stungun0404]

to be fair, i’m not scumreading off the strength of your scumplay, but rather the strength of your townplay and that i think that this game hasn’t resembled it fairly.

if you had to liken this game to another one you’ve played, titus, what game would it be? or are there any that are similar as far as your play goes if you are town? i might metaread that game in depth and see if i can derive anything.

[Titus]

if we keep titus alive based off shiro plus ank, then we should similarly keep sando alive based off ankamius’s late vote on sando until we hear more from ankamius, right?

which means katsuki might be a decent lynch after all

If Ank can explain his Sando vote, this is the correct course. It will help sort him.

[Titus]

As for fear mongering, the whole we'd elect Shiro but the sky falls if I get a power?
Let's look at this objectively.

1) I lynched scum D1 with an unpopular theory that scum voted for FA.
2) I was the counterwagon to scum.
3) With my power I elected a group that was selected by and with town.
4) I picked a verifiable power.
5) I haven't oversold, lied or cheated.

The argument against me is merely that I'm good at scum and it pisses me off.

Simple requests to keep posts down are viewed as toxic. I have gotten instant opposition to every theory I propose because it is me saying it.

Can we drop the nonsense and just treat me like any other slot?

Do you not understand how important it is to town to ensure the safety of a player who can link to the dead? And no, we can’t do that because I don’t believe you really gave Ank a power and we cannot risk him picking you. The only way I’m not voting you is if Shiro guarantees he won’t pick you. Why? Because no one will vote him for leader unless he commits to not picking you and that puts him in danger of being NKed. Hopefully town PRs can maybe keep him safe tonight and/or scum kills elsewhere but the point is, we have to submit D4 leader picks

before

your slot can be resolved. I’m willing to wait,

so long as Shiro agrees not to pick you

. I’m not willing to risk SM’s safety over yours.

I already revoked wanting a power. He would agree to not jeopardize his TR and protect himself. Can you stop beating a dead horse?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Can we stop with the sky is falling if I have a power? Shiro can verify tomorrow that I gave Ank a power. Plus, we can just not elect Shiro if the concern is we don't want me to have another power.

Can we stop fearmongering me and get back to scumhunting?

No, Shiro is are only hope of talking to the dead. We absolutely have to keep him safe. Shiro has to commit to not choosing you. We are not risking Shiro’s life over yours.

No shit. Shiro proves I am legit with giving Ank a power anyway.

That's why I revoked wanting a power.

So can we get on with mafia.

It’s not up to YOU, it’s up to SHIRO.

[Titus]

to be fair, i’m not scumreading off the strength of your scumplay, but rather the strength of your townplay and that i think that this game hasn’t resembled it fairly.

if you had to liken this game to another one you’ve played, titus, what game would it be? or are there any that are similar as far as your play goes if you are town? i might metaread that game in depth and see if i can derive anything.

Space Dandy comes to mind. There I mechanically broke the game but Drixx got me lynched anyway.

My best work is Suikoden but scum slipped post 11.

Ftr, I hate meta. But you did ask.

You could also argue Steven Universe.

[zMuffinMan]

i want to lynch brian skies for putting this fucking mechanic in the game

would anyone support that lynch? i know it's late in the day but i believe it can happen

[Nancy Drew 39]

As for fear mongering, the whole we'd elect Shiro but the sky falls if I get a power?
Let's look at this objectively.

1) I lynched scum D1 with an unpopular theory that scum voted for FA.
2) I was the counterwagon to scum.
3) With my power I elected a group that was selected by and with town.
4) I picked a verifiable power.
5) I haven't oversold, lied or cheated.

The argument against me is merely that I'm good at scum and it pisses me off.

Simple requests to keep posts down are viewed as toxic. I have gotten instant opposition to every theory I propose because it is me saying it.

Can we drop the nonsense and just treat me like any other slot?

Do you not understand how important it is to town to ensure the safety of a player who can link to the dead? And no, we can’t do that because I don’t believe you really gave Ank a power and we cannot risk him picking you. The only way I’m not voting you is if Shiro guarantees he won’t pick you. Why? Because no one will vote him for leader unless he commits to not picking you and that puts him in danger of being NKed. Hopefully town PRs can maybe keep him safe tonight and/or scum kills elsewhere but the point is, we have to submit D4 leader picks

before

your slot can be resolved. I’m willing to wait,

so long as Shiro agrees not to pick you

. I’m not willing to risk SM’s safety over yours.

I already revoked wanting a power. He would agree to not jeopardize his TR and protect himself. Can you stop beating a dead horse?

I want Shiro to agree to that. You do not speak for him!

[Sando]

Would you lynch Katsuki then? While I don't trust you, I wanna see what happens if we both jump and trust Ank to verify us tomorrow.

Fuuuuuuuck no Ank doesn't clear you OR me. I'm not just lynching a second troll-lurker as a counter-wagon to me, we're currently seeing what that ensures for tomorrow.

Don't trust me? Go answer my question about how I've vanished or created diversions then.

[Titus]

Can we stop with the sky is falling if I have a power? Shiro can verify tomorrow that I gave Ank a power. Plus, we can just not elect Shiro if the concern is we don't want me to have another power.

Can we stop fearmongering me and get back to scumhunting?

No, Shiro is are only hope of talking to the dead. We absolutely have to keep him safe. Shiro has to commit to not choosing you. We are not risking Shiro’s life over yours.

No shit. Shiro proves I am legit with giving Ank a power anyway.

That's why I revoked wanting a power.

So can we get on with mafia.

It’s not up to YOU, it’s up to SHIRO.

Do you think Shiro would jeopardize a townread bywanting to give them a power they do not want over the desire of town, when said townread could be verified by just by holding off? Plus he knows I am better later. Just what do you think of Shiro?

Is this a strawman to protect Katsuki? What is your read there?

[Titus]

Would you lynch Katsuki then? While I don't trust you, I wanna see what happens if we both jump and trust Ank to verify us tomorrow.

Fuuuuuuuck no Ank doesn't clear you OR me. I'm not just lynching a second troll-lurker as a counter-wagon to me, we're currently seeing what that ensures for tomorrow.

Don't trust me? Go answer my question about how I've vanished or created diversions then.

I'd quote vanishing but the whole point is there are no posts to do that with.

The whole Shiro cannot give Titus a power is a diversion.

Second, Ank would verify I gave him a power. Are you scared of what Ank says?

[Nancy Drew 39]

i want to lynch brian skies for putting this fucking mechanic in the game

would anyone support that lynch? i know it's late in the day but i believe it can happen

I agree with Sakura that he should have chosen treestump over petrification. That is unforgivable.

[Titus]

i want to lynch brian skies for putting this fucking mechanic in the game

would anyone support that lynch? i know it's late in the day but i believe it can happen

+1 I hate games that turn into popularity contests. It prevents blunt honesty and encourages spam.

[MathBlade]

i want to lynch brian skies for putting this fucking mechanic in the game

would anyone support that lynch? i know it's late in the day but i believe it can happen

World is ending we agree on something lol

[MathBlade]

i want to lynch brian skies for putting this fucking mechanic in the game

would anyone support that lynch? i know it's late in the day but i believe it can happen

+1 I hate games that turn into popularity contests. It prevents blunt honesty and encourages spam.

Lol all of Mafia is a popularity contest. Like what?