NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Ausuka]

I'm only engaging in multiball spec because I'm worried that I'll die tonight before I get to a PC and say what I want to say.

I don't think I get "it"

Taly what are your reads on the players with claims?

I feel that xyzzy and profii are both town and we have over 36 hours left.

[the worst]

do you reckon you could throw down some reasoning why xyzzy is >rand town? every time they've AItold it's been like a ".....maybe?tell" fmpov

[Ausuka]

people seem v content to lynch them and they've seemed genuine recently. this really doesn't feel like a lynch on scum at all. Also like I know someone said it's optimal to just say "I was town" in twilight but like I think I rarely see that?

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Xyzzy

He is in the pool and Skumgazer and Aus strong defense of the slot tips me that way over Profi if Sky is off the table.

[Taly]

Taly what are your reads on the players with claims?

Town unless and until/if actions and claims do not align with motives or statements, for the most part.

Or if the lynchpool has multiple town in it, which would be shocking because I don't know how 3+ people in that pool can possibly be town based off gameplay.

{Sky/HWS/Profii/Xyzzy/A50}

I've stated very clearly of the reasons I've suspected each, and I've debated each of them to be town at one point or another.

But I can't dismiss the cases I've made because I haven't seen people cultivate big arguments for a specific read here like I have. I've evaluated other people's thoughts toward my assertions

{MOI/Rask/TW}

and even

{HWS/A50/Sky}

as well, but nothing has given me 100% clarity.

And so, I think it's optimal to take claims off face-value... it's D2 in a large.

[Taly]

I'm not specc'ing anymore than I already have.

Anyone who's specc'ing right now is catching my eye.

Anyone who's making specc'ing a priority above a lynch right now is pinging the shit out of me.

[the worst]

people seem v content to lynch them and they've seemed genuine recently. this really doesn't feel like a lynch on scum at all. Also like I know someone said it's optimal to just say "I was town" in twilight but like I think I rarely see that?

Hmmm I kinda feel it to an extent my main problem is I feel like their genuine posts have been like...... genuine prodges not genuine game advancing stances I kinda don't feel "GOTCHA" with the wagon on them but it feels reasonably righteous and if it DOES flip town I kinda feel like there's some spicy vca once a couple of {profii, Hot Water Service, skygazer} have flipped

[Ausuka]

Taly what are your reads on the players with claims?

Town unless and until/if actions and claims do not align with motives or statements, for the most part.

Or if the lynchpool has multiple town in it, which would be shocking because I don't know how 3+ people in that pool can possibly be town based off gameplay.

{Sky/HWS/Profii/Xyzzy/A50}

I've stated very clearly of the reasons I've suspected each, and I've debated each of them to be town at one point or another.

But I can't dismiss the cases I've made because I haven't seen people cultivate big arguments for a specific read here like I have. I've evaluated other people's thoughts toward my assertions

{MOI/Rask/TW}

and even

{HWS/A50/Sky}

as well, but nothing has given me 100% clarity.

And so, I think it's optimal to take claims off face-value... it's D2 in a large.

What? How can you have no opinions on players outside the unclaimed players? Don't you think some of them have to be scum?

When I die don't let MOI endgame btw

[Ausuka]

people seem v content to lynch them and they've seemed genuine recently. this really doesn't feel like a lynch on scum at all. Also like I know someone said it's optimal to just say "I was town" in twilight but like I think I rarely see that?

Hmmm I kinda feel it to an extent my main problem is I feel like their genuine posts have been like...... genuine prodges not genuine game advancing stances I kinda don't feel "GOTCHA" with the wagon on them but it feels reasonably righteous and if it DOES flip town I kinda feel like there's some spicy vca once a couple of {profii, Hot Water Service, skygazer} have flipped

can you help me flip HWS then?

i don't see why mafia continue to not give much content when they're getting wagoned largely due to lack of game presence (there are points against them but I feel like it's obvious that they'd be in a much better position if they were more active.) It's not so rare for town to be disengaged.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: xyzzy

That's L-3

I'm not mentally in this game at the moment. There was a time today when I was, and now we're dragging. We've over talked everything today. Someone jus

[Chickadee]

Accidentally hit submit. Oops.

Someone just push something through. We all know the lynch pool.

[the worst]

I kinda feel like I should have somewhere I want to be more than xyzzy but I don't really feel it.

honestly net of all things it doesn't feel AI that they have nothing to post. when you put the lack of survivalism vs. lack of energy to produce content I legitimately can't bring myself to feel strongly one way or the other. the kinda lopsided stalling of the wagon is the only thing making me hold back.

all xyzzy has going for themselves in my mind is the fact they were a cw to Dram and I'm not even sure that's important yet. like flubs was absolutely the main cw to dram so....

ヽ(｀⌒´)ノ

I could have my arm twisted off the xyzzy wagon pretty easily but I need somewhere better to park then HWS

[Skygazer]

rabble rabble rabble I still wanna see a profii lynch over xyzzy

was going to move my vote to avoid the NL but the deadline got extended

more to come later today?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Note to self - go back and see if any multiball theory floaters also are on the “Xyzzy is a Dram counterwagon” train because those thoughts are pretty antithetical to a Town mindset if posited together.

[Gamma Emerald]

Note to self - go back and see if any multiball theory floaters also are on the “Xyzzy is a Dram counterwagon” train because those thoughts are pretty antithetical to a Town mindset if posited together.

Oh man that's some tasty shit
unfortunately this is not an effort I can dedicate my time to rn

[the worst]

Note to self - go back and see if any multiball theory floaters also are on the “Xyzzy is a Dram counterwagon” train because those thoughts are pretty antithetical to a Town mindset if posited together.

basically the dominant reason I'm happy parking xyzzy rn

[Ausuka]

I'm pretty sure literally one person (tw) has talked about the counterwagon thing since multiball was brought up and he's voting xyzzy. Not sure what this reaction is about. Tw if that's your reasoning why didn't you even hint at that when explaining your read on xyzzy to me?

[Ausuka]

Yeah I'm right.

[profii]

it's hard enough keeping a track of the deadline in the game let alone anything else.

I think we should push xyzzy to L-1 - get the claim and go from there to the next target (me please)

VOTE: xyzzy

[Ausuka]

meh

VOTE: profii

[Skygazer]

I,, what? Did you just imply xyzzy is town or

[profii]

no

we will get l-1
we will get a claim

that is how the game works

then

he will either vanilla town claim and we will lynch

or

if he does PR claim, everyone will panic and want to change, or at leasttttttt, discuss if it's a fake claim, then if it's fake do we move, but omg we are so close to deadline

etc

so

lets expidite the first bit, to reduce the impact of a claim that causes us to panic right next to deadline.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: xyzzy

L-1

claim and stuff

[profii]

^^^ ta da.

now we have like a whole day to think about our lynch pool rather than say 3 hours assuming xyzzy comes in fairly soon...

[MagnaofIllusion]

rabble rabble rabble I still wanna see a profii lynch over xyzzy

was going to move my vote to avoid the NL but the deadline got extended

more to come later today?

I,, what? Did you just imply xyzzy is town or

Can everyone see why I want this killed with fire already?