NY 213 - Game Over!

[Ankamius]

4.

Golden Robster

5. Krazy
6.

Creature

7.

Kublai Khan

9.

Hopkirk

10.

Gamma Emerald

13. Tchill13
14. Skygazer
15. JarJarDrinks
17.

Ankamius

18.

Texcat

19. TehBrawlGuy
20. Vaxkiller
21. Wavemode
23. Myloninja13
24.

Scioness Sajj

[Ankamius]

it would be pretty funny if all the scum were in that small a list wouldn't it

[Ankamius]

time to test if all these townreads make sense!

[Ircher]

Day 5 VC #6

Krazy (2) - Wavemode (5263), Hopkirk (5265)

Gamma Emerald (5) - Krazy (5115), Vaxkiller (5121), Scioness Sajj (5309), Myloninja13 (5394), Creature (5397)

JarJarDrinks (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (3) - Tchill13 (5174), Golden Robster (5311), JarJarDrinks (5422)
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (3) - Ankamius (5168), Kublai Khan (5305), TehBrawlGuy (5373)
Not Voting (3) - Texcat, Gamma Emerald, Skygazer

Lynch Threshold

During day 5, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 5 ends on August 8, 2018 8:45 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-08 20:45:00).

Moderator Notes

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
Moderator is V/LA from August 10 to August 21. (Hopefully I'll be around during that time, but if not, I'm sure Not Known 15 will cover for me.)
Scioness Sajj is V/LA until August 6.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Golden Robster: TehBrawlGuy (5311)
Krazy: Gamma Emerald (5115)
Creature: Gamma Emerald (5397)
Kublai Khan: Wavemode (5305)
Hopkirk: Krazy (5265)
Tchill13: Vaxkiller (5135) --> TehBrawlGuy (5139) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5174)
JarJarDrinks: TehBrawlGuy (5422)
Ankamius: Wavemode (5168)
TehBrawlGuy: JarJarDrinks (5126) --> Wavemode (5373)
Vaxkiller: Krazy (5118) --> Gamma Emerald (5121)
Wavemode: Krazy (5263)
Myloninja13: Gamma Emerald (5394)
Scioness Sajj: Gamma Emerald (5309)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 4

* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(1): Texcat (4670)
Golden Robster (2): Scioness Sajj (4681) -->

Dunnstral

(5019)
Krazy (3): Texcat (4669) --> Gamma Emerald (4859) -->

Dunnstral

(5104*)
Creature (3): Scioness Sajj (4665) --> Texcat (4745) -->

Dunnstral

(4817)
Hopkirk (5): Scioness Sajj (4672) --> (Null) (4848) --> Scioness Sajj (4857) --> Vaxkiller (4992) --> Golden Robster (5062)
Gamma Emerald (1):

Dunnstral

(4847)
Tchill13 (6): Scioness Sajj (4707) -->

Dunnstral

(4822) --> Scioness Sajj (4863) -->

Dunnstral

(4988) --> (Null) (5064) --> TehBrawlGuy (5102)
Skygazer (4): Scioness Sajj (4717) --> Texcat (4888) --> (Null) (4894) -->

Dunnstral

(4973)
JarJarDrinks (2): Scioness Sajj (4674) -->

Dunnstral

(4815)
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 (4756) --> Texcat (5002) --> Krazy (5049)
Texcat (1):

Dunnstral

(4829)
TehBrawlGuy (1): Texcat (4710)
Vaxkiller (1): Scioness Sajj (4721)
Wavemode (2): Scioness Sajj (4854) -->

Dunnstral

(5071)

PenguinPower

(2): Scioness Sajj (4713) -->

Dunnstral

(4819)
Myloninja13 (3):

Dunnstral

(4837) --> Gamma Emerald (4965) -->

Dunnstral

(5059)
Scioness Sajj (2): Texcat (4675) --> (Null) (4895)

Day 3

* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral

(2): Myloninja13 (3463) --> Texcat (4162)
Golden Robster (3):

Dunnstral

(3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):

Dunnstral

(3978) --> Texcat (4161) --> Gamma Emerald (4392)
Creature (8): Texcat (3472) -->

Lalendra

(3681) --> Texcat (3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) --> Texcat (4165) -->

Lalendra

(4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) -->

Lalendra

(4284)
Kublai Khan (7): Creature (3511) -->

Lalendra

(4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) -->

Lalendra

(4308) --> Gamma Emerald (4416) -->

Lalendra

(4557)
Hopkirk (3):

Lalendra

(3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4339)
Gamma Emerald (3):

Lalendra

(3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

(4): Myloninja13 (3640) -->

Lalendra

(3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) -->

Lalendra

(4286)

Lalendra

(3): TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130) --> Creature (4384)
Tchill13 (3):

Lalendra

(3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4215)
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):

Lalendra

(4564)
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) -->

Lalendra

(3695) -->

Dunnstral

(3704) -->

Lalendra

(3721)
Ankamius (3):

Lalendra

(3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)
Texcat (1): Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks (3466) --> Texcat (3790) --> Creature (4245) --> Gamma Emerald (4421)
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) -->

Lalendra

(4220)
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy (3468) -->

Lalendra

(3716) --> _{Ankamius (4600^)}

PenguinPower

(3): Texcat (3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) -->

Lalendra

(3678)
Myloninja13 (2):

Dunnstral

(3765) --> Creature (4252)
Scioness Sajj (3): Texcat (3756) --> Creature (4338) -->

Lalendra

(4577*)

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) -->

PenguinPower

(3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) -->

PenguinPower

(2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) -->

PenguinPower

(2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) -->

PenguinPower

(2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) -->

PenguinPower

(2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) -->

PenguinPower

(2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) -->

PenguinPower

(2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7):

PenguinPower

(1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)

Lalendra

(7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) -->

PenguinPower

(2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1):

PenguinPower

(1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) -->

PenguinPower

(3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) -->

PenguinPower

(3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)

PenguinPower

(7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1):

PenguinPower

(2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) -->

PenguinPower

(3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) -->

PenguinPower

(2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral

(5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) -->

Lalendra

(1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) -->

TheRampage

(909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) -->

TheRampage

(813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3):

Lalendra

(234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) -->

Lalendra

(279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) -->

TheRampage

(743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) -->

Lalendra

(1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)

Lalendra

(3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) -->

TheRampage

(771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) -->

TheRampage

(223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) -->

TheRampage

(1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)

TheRampage

(3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)

PenguinPower

(1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral

(2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Ankamius]

haha I pushed the vote count down 3 posts

I'm the best

[Ankamius]

Skygazer is very likely town
TehBrawlGuy is somewhatish town
Krazy doesn't appear town or scum
Myloninja has no real equity either way, certain slots increase his scum equity via flipping scum, though

JarJarDrinks, Wavemode, Vaxkiller, and Tchill all look really bad in this scenario.

[Ankamius]

(basically the type of gamestate implied by the vast majority of the wagons throughout the game being town imply those four slots are more likely scum than not, with Mylo either being an extra or replacing one)

I think I'd have to plug in those specific scumreads in order to see if it makes sense macro-wise, but I think this is a solve I'm comfortable running with for today.

[Ankamius]

I'm not sure what to make of the Gamma wagon in this scenario though, I'd have to double check how it started and why those specific slots are there first.

[Ankamius]

Penguin shared a lot of the lynchpool I have.
(

TBG/Mylo/Scion/Krazy/Robster

/

Vax

). Lets wagon some of these people.

Hopkirk still being alive and scum not protective-hunting makes sense with this scumteam thanks to this post.

[Ankamius]

The kills would be mostly geared towards getting rid of non-mislynchable targets in this scenario since Flavor Leaf/Ausuka/Hopkirk all seem to have near consensus reads or similar.

That could be indicative by itself though, conftown all having consensus incorrect reads = consensus is probably supported by scum.

So it still kind of works? I don't see much reason why the kills would have worked out the way they did if town were killed mostly for reads.

[Ankamius]

eh

JarJar/Wavemode/Tchill/Vax isn't a full completed solve, but it makes enough sense with how things have gone and how things are going this game that I would expect probably 2 scum in there, maybe 3.

[Gamma Emerald]

That VCA on Osuka seriously point to krazy or tex being scum. At one point the wagon was:

Osuka (8) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Krazy (176), Almost50 (390), JarJarDrinks (535), Performer (623), PenguinPower (681), Hopkirk (696)

It's very unlikely a town wagon gets that large w/o some scum on it. I know I'm town and Dunn/Almost/Performer/PP/Hopkirk are all town.

I think Tex/Krazy is prob a good place to lynch from

er what
krazy wasn't in the game then, I get the intent but it's confusing

[Ankamius]

5307 is erroneous

There's no huge wagon push elsewhere and the wagon gets jumpstarted by Wavemode's slot as soon as it starts to disintegrate. It's entirely possible it WAS all town and scum wanted it to get pushed through without scum intervention.

[Gamma Emerald]

strongest scumread right now is TBG followed by SS and then creature/gamma

m'm working with you until we get sajj and TBG scum lynched. Then I'm winning with you.

what are you trying to say here?

[Skygazer]

To whoever asked me about gamma, I'm not the biggest fan of their wagon at the moment.

I think it's interesting that wave put in all of this effort saying hopkirk was probably left alive due to bad reads and somehow ended up voting someone with hopkirk that has been in hopkirk's lynch pool since yesterday.

If I were to go full conspiracy then I'd say maybe hopkirk was left alive because he's townreading wave?

VOTE: wave

[Ankamius]

Hopkirk's reads seem to be mostly consensus, Sky. That probably isn't too relevant.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because TBG had an out. He does not get lynched the next day just because he wasn't on the wagon that lynches scum. Gamma was not a recent replace-in and doesn't have as many excuses. Circumstance matters.

TBG put Wheme at L-1 and asked for intent to hammer to generate a claim. It is

possible

he does this as scum, but I do not see it as

probable

.

Erm I did have the out of consistently being against it? Why do I just turn on him like that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Krazy plays off the hammer as accidental but I believe he knew full well what he was doing:

no...? He called it shitty, not accidental

[JarJarDrinks]

Well we can ask

@Krazy. Was the hammer accidental ?

[JarJarDrinks]

Skygazer is very likely town
TehBrawlGuy is somewhatish town
Krazy doesn't appear town or scum
Myloninja has no real equity either way, certain slots increase his scum equity via flipping scum, though

JarJarDrinks, Wavemode, Vaxkiller, and Tchill all look really bad in this scenario.

In what scenario?

[wavemode]

I think it's interesting that wave put in all of this effort saying hopkirk was probably left alive due to bad reads

when did I say that? i think the only suggestion i made regarding hopkirk is that scum!mylo might not have wanted to kill someone who made a long case against him right at the end of the day because it might point to him. but that was just one theory. I was more focused on them choosing PenguinPower of all people

[Gamma Emerald]

-He recognized PP had stalled and Wheme was probably the lynch for the day, so he bussed to active lurk for a few more game days while probably not getting lynched

This is like the only thing I take issue with in the post, the meta seems reasonable. Why do you say I'm trying to active lurk? While that ends up happening sometimes as scum when I get uncomfortable (and I can provide meta for this as well, older but w/e), it definitely didn't happen here. So please reconcile your argument with reality?

[Ankamius]

Skygazer is very likely town
TehBrawlGuy is somewhatish town
Krazy doesn't appear town or scum
Myloninja has no real equity either way, certain slots increase his scum equity via flipping scum, though

JarJarDrinks, Wavemode, Vaxkiller, and Tchill all look really bad in this scenario.

In what scenario?

look up

[wavemode]

no...? He called it shitty, not accidental

he specifically said that he did not check the count. as in, he didn't knwo it was hammer. is there another way to interpret that?

[wavemode]

JarJar/Wavemode/Tchill/Vax

this is hilarious because I would townblock with this group of people