Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #4750 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:16 am

In post 4748, Creature wrote:PT cop and 2-shot seer are like two cops (except one can't detect traitor, lol)

no they aren't, they serve entirely different functions

that's why i haven't given a shit about hebi's role. it doesn't conflict with mine

zMuffinMan · Post Post #4751 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:19 am

In post 4713, Toranaga wrote:I ISO'd [Creature] and think [he's] town

what do you think he's done that comes from a town mindset?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #4752 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:21 am

In post 4449, Creature wrote:guess I'm gonna stay with the safe lynch

this was your only post when brian was getting wagoned

zMuffinMan · Post Post #4753 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:22 am

ultra strong scum read on him you apparently had

sure wasn't just a read you were making up in passing

totally believe you legit had a scum read on him

Creature · Post Post #4754 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:26 am

Him replacing out made me change my mind

Nosferatu · Post Post #4755 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:10 am

In post 4724, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4723, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 4717, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4715, Toranaga wrote:what does "lynches are tracked" mean? if I voted someone, and I get tracked at night, does that mean I'm tracked to the person I voted? cause that makes no sense to me. a tracker is a night action. votes are daily actions.
Think of it like this
We have a group vig at night that requires unilateral support
Vigs are tracked.
Ergo the lynch is tracked
what do you think about Titus claiming to have tracked the vig last night?
I think Titus either is a scum tracker or has enough of a guess as to who it is to be confident enough. Hell I even figured it out before some funky weird posts to who I think is the vig.

Mainly I don’t think she fakes that here. She’s too confident.

why would scum have a tracker? It only seems to serve a purpose of countering the vig. A BP shot would serve the same purpose.

MathBlade · Post Post #4756 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:21 am

In post 4755, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 4724, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4723, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 4717, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4715, Toranaga wrote:what does "lynches are tracked" mean? if I voted someone, and I get tracked at night, does that mean I'm tracked to the person I voted? cause that makes no sense to me. a tracker is a night action. votes are daily actions.
Think of it like this
We have a group vig at night that requires unilateral support
Vigs are tracked.
Ergo the lynch is tracked
what do you think about Titus claiming to have tracked the vig last night?
To figure out who got added to the hood?
To find the jail keeper?

I don’t know. Without knowing the scum’s full repitoire I don’t know why they would. RC also be fake claiming tracker after checking me out and got busted because he didn’t know the hood mechanics left a track making the hood all town. The point of order is no town ever fakes two guilties. RC got onto me for “fake claiming” one guilty when I checked him out and found his PGO claim to be a fake and he said to never do that again. When I called him out on his bullshit. So quite frankly if Titus is town RC is a hypocritical asshat who should hold himself to the same standards he does everyone else.

I think Titus either is a scum tracker or has enough of a guess as to who it is to be confident enough. Hell I even figured it out before some funky weird posts to who I think is the vig.

Mainly I don’t think she fakes that here. She’s too confident.
why would scum have a tracker? It only seems to serve a purpose of countering the vig. A BP shot would serve the same purpose.

MathBlade · Post Post #4757 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:23 am

Ugh sorry phone gobbled my response

Pretty much it’s on Titus to prove he is a hypocritical asshat and town because the two fake guilties is overwhelming evidence he is scum. It’s not up to me to prove he is scum it’s right there. If Titus is town it’s up to her to prove it.

Titus · Post Post #4758 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:29 am

It's RC. Like it's been discussed. That's why you were not lynched. Also, you've been wagoned everyday but never lynched so that screams to lynch you. Plus removing a rivalry death tunnel is a win win.

What are your reads on Vecna and Creature?

Nosferatu · Post Post #4759 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:53 am

In post 4757, MathBlade wrote:It’s not up to me to prove he is scum it’s right there

thank god you're not a lawyer

Titus · Post Post #4760 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:56 am

In post 4759, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 4757, MathBlade wrote:It’s not up to me to prove he is scum it’s right there
thank god you're not a lawyer

True, but it's mafia. He can place whatever standard he wants for his vote but such a tunnel is only likely to piss players off and make players think he cannot scumhunt. Saying it's up to a player to prove they are not scum gives someone a much less accuracy rate than townblocking.

I am waffling on Math. We really need to hit scum.

Creature · Post Post #4761 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:59 am

Town PT cop
Town 2-shot seer
Town Tracker

How many of these are true?

Nosferatu · Post Post #4762 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:59 am

im sort of ambivalent over whether or not math is scum.

on one hand the resistance to lynching math has been insane but on another hand math is another in a long line of lynches the town has been clamoring around for that have up to now flipped town.

Nosferatu · Post Post #4763 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:00 am

In post 4761, Creature wrote:Scum PT cop
Town 2-shot seer
Town Tracker

How many of these are true?

fixed

Creature · Post Post #4764 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:00 am

What would be the point of a scum PT cop?

MathBlade · Post Post #4765 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:01 am

Find the hood.

Afk til tonight

MathBlade · Post Post #4766 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:02 am

I mean look at all the hood power

Nosferatu · Post Post #4767 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:15 am

12 Town

Town Neighborizer
Town Jailkeeper
Town Vigilante
Town Seer
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Vanilla
Town Vinalla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla

6 non-town

Vampire

Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf Vanilla
Wolf Vanilla

Is the setup I'm looking at rn

Titus · Post Post #4768 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:59 am

In post 4762, Nosferatu wrote:im sort of ambivalent over whether or not math is scum.

on one hand the resistance to lynching math has been insane but on another hand math is another in a long line of lynches the town has been clamoring around for that have up to now flipped town.

If Math is town, then scum aren't likely finishing him off bc scum are not threatened. If Math is scum, they're hoping for a mislynch they can float or are not bussing because of powerful pr.

Titus · Post Post #4769 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:00 am

In post 4767, Nosferatu wrote:12 Town

Town Neighborizer
Town Jailkeeper
Town Vigilante
Town Seer
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Vanilla
Town Vinalla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla

6 non-town

Vampire

Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf Vanilla
Wolf Vanilla

Is the setup I'm looking at rn

If this is the setup, your team probably resembles something of Vecna, Brian Skies, Hebi, Creature, and Oath

Titus · Post Post #4770 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:01 am

In post 4764, Creature wrote:What would be the point of a scum PT cop?

Faked claim they can easily pull off, especially if scum is in the hood.

Creature · Post Post #4771 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:02 am

In post 4767, Nosferatu wrote:12 Town

Town Neighborizer
Town Jailkeeper
Town Vigilante
Town Seer
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Vanilla
Town Vinalla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla

6 non-town

Vampire

Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf Vanilla
Wolf Vanilla

Is the setup I'm looking at rn

That's how you make players not want to play your games.

Creature · Post Post #4772 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:03 am

In post 4770, Titus wrote:
In post 4764, Creature wrote:What would be the point of a scum PT cop?
Faked claim they can easily pull off, especially if scum is in the hood.

So not scum PT cop, just scum.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4773 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:14 am

In post 4691, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 0, mastina wrote:Deadline: Wednesday, August 8th, @ 3:00 PM PDT: 5 days, 4 hours, 55 minutes.
Can we get a lynch now rather than circlejerking to deadline
I'd prefer Zmuffin but honestly as long as it's not something incredibly stupid I'm fine with it
just get this over with

So after postulating on what Titus claimed I think I've determined that we should probably lynch one of Oath/Titus. This is because both of them are claiming failed actions and as such one flipping scum means the other has a high chance of flipping scum. Here's how I can see this.
Both town: Scum probably blocked them in some way. Plausible.
Both scum: lying out of their asses about the blocks most likely. Plausible.
Only Titus scum: Titus claimed no result to back up Oath for some reason...? Strange idea but not out of my range of what I think could be reasonable.
Only Oath scum: Doesn't really make any sense why Titus would cover here. Not plausible.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4774 (ISO) » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:15 am

In post 4700, Toranaga wrote:
In post 4680, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4663, Toranaga wrote:I believe that dude is a vampire, and I have the suspicion he could be some sort of cultist
*thinking*
I'm gonna go check your previous stances
did you?

yes