Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

The Blade that can cut through any shield.
The Shield that can withstand any weapon.

My friend, you are a person of class

[stungun0404]

I am lurkier as scum in general, so for me it does.

Then as scum you’d have to fix it or you’d have to try to fix it or you’d have a trust tell. So I don’t pay attention to self meta.

Like that would be used against me, lol. I have 2 scum games attached to this account --> and i survived decently far into both of them so i ended up in the higher concentration posters of both, but i did not take many active scum stances in either.

This game i have played a game which truly is not in my scumrange. And especially with all those notes i took. I generally put less effort into my scum games than my town games.

But we can digress from this matter bc it is distracting from scum hunting

[Frozen Angel]

"Any actions you take this Night Phase cannot be blocked or manipulated." so a doctor or a roleblock (which we don't even have as power negate can't stop the factional) would always fail against the kill that was with SS

[MathBlade]

"Any actions you take this Night Phase cannot be blocked or manipulated." so a doctor or a roleblock (which we don't even have as power negate can't stop the factional) would always fail against the kill that was with SS

Yes. Super strength power negate that cannot be blocked or manipulated
Against super strength BP which cannot be blocked or negated.

Whichever one wins the other is necessarily false.

[Toranaga]

FA, who the hell is trog?

[Frozen Angel]

As giving the kill super strength is not manipulating the potential heal or block and is manipulating the kill itself I'm assuming the kill will always bypass heal/block even if all of them have super strength

[Frozen Angel]

FA, who the hell is trog?

I meant toog fixed that already.

[Frozen Angel]

r is next to t I was just typing fast xd

[Toranaga]

VOTE: Toogeloo

I meant this not toranaga

lol ok

[MathBlade]

So if the BP fires off then the power negate was blocked or manipulated. Therefore BP takes precedence. If the power negate was not stopped then the BP doesn’t fire thus making the BP action blocked or manipulated.

Either way it’s unmovable force problem.

[Frozen Angel]

there is a loophole between actions and power negate yeah

a super strength bp is a bp that always will be activated

a super strength power negate is a blocking action that will always go through

same for all other abilities.

For factional kill and anything else there are no loopholes cause

a super strength kill - is a kill that will always go through.

a super strength heal or block can't be stopped from triggering but can get bypassed by a non stopable kill. so there are no loopholes there.

[MathBlade]

there is a loophole between actions and power negate yeah

a super strength bp is a bp that always will be activated

a super strength power negate is a blocking action that will always go through

same for all other abilities.

For factional kill and anything else there are no loopholes cause

a super strength kill - is a kill that will always go through.

a super strength heal or block can't be stopped from triggering but can get bypassed by a non stopable kill. so there are no loopholes there.

Yay more fun immovable force problems.

Strongman kill meets strongman BP lolz.

[Gamma Emerald]

p sure shiros an antideathmiller

Ahahaha you fucking dimwit this game isn't bastard, go sit in the corner and stfu and let the adults talk

[Frozen Angel]

there is a loophole between actions and power negate yeah

a super strength bp is a bp that always will be activated

a super strength power negate is a blocking action that will always go through

same for all other abilities.

For factional kill and anything else there are no loopholes cause

a super strength kill - is a kill that will always go through.

a super strength heal or block can't be stopped from triggering but can get bypassed by a non stopable kill. so there are no loopholes there.

Yay more fun immovable force problems.

Strongman kill meets strongman BP lolz.

I was just saying there shouldn't be a loophole here cause "*Super Strength: Any actions you take this Night Phase cannot be blocked or manipulated."

A ss kill is not manipulating the bp or blocking it so it will go through even if bp is activated.

[MathBlade]

there is a loophole between actions and power negate yeah

a super strength bp is a bp that always will be activated

a super strength power negate is a blocking action that will always go through

same for all other abilities.

For factional kill and anything else there are no loopholes cause

a super strength kill - is a kill that will always go through.

a super strength heal or block can't be stopped from triggering but can get bypassed by a non stopable kill. so there are no loopholes there.

Like I just asked the mod all this and that matches what he said except the blocking part still happens rest of negate sails through.

So I guess I am taking BP tonight and praying for another super down the line but this feels wrong. Like I don’t think the mod intended for this to be a thing? I mean it’s super cool and we should just like make our super armored obvTowns and lynch in the rest. Of the people who have powers who hasn’t taken BP yet? We can get them to take BP tonight and then just pray for another super down the line? Then we have our impenetrable force?

[Frozen Angel]

So the super bp will stop the super factional kills?!

[Gamma Emerald]

I can only imagine the amount of BS flying around if Shiro were alive and had been negated...I imagine scum would see the same potential, so if scum had it I'd say it was Titus that had that power.

Titus cannot have Power Negate unless Math is scum, both confirmed to each other to have precog

Scum have daychat, Titus could have given powers to another person who picked up precog and was feeding info through scumchat.

This just isn’t a thing lol.

I can confirm I have precog if this is really a paranoia people have especially since I can’t be killed tonight if we lynch (which we should). Titus pretty much knew what power I would take if put up so she used me to try to “townfirm” her and flipped her shit when I didn’t I only confirmed she used the ability. She said she would be “townfirmed” by Ank which again made no sense. Her plans were about making her look good.

The way Titus shaded me means I think I can figure out which gambit she was running or she tried to slander me hard because I generally have a bias towards scumreading her.

Ok this post makes me reconsider my theory on the Shiro kill
but why then, if my theory is wrong?

[MathBlade]

So the super bp will stop the super factional kills?!

No

The super factional kill would go through per Dream Weaver

But we just make sure only town gets super then huzzah we win.

[MathBlade]

I can only imagine the amount of BS flying around if Shiro were alive and had been negated...I imagine scum would see the same potential, so if scum had it I'd say it was Titus that had that power.

Titus cannot have Power Negate unless Math is scum, both confirmed to each other to have precog

Scum have daychat, Titus could have given powers to another person who picked up precog and was feeding info through scumchat.

This just isn’t a thing lol.

I can confirm I have precog if this is really a paranoia people have especially since I can’t be killed tonight if we lynch (which we should). Titus pretty much knew what power I would take if put up so she used me to try to “townfirm” her and flipped her shit when I didn’t I only confirmed she used the ability. She said she would be “townfirmed” by Ank which again made no sense. Her plans were about making her look good.

The way Titus shaded me means I think I can figure out which gambit she was running or she tried to slander me hard because I generally have a bias towards scumreading her.

Ok this post makes me reconsider my theory on the Shiro kill
but why then, if my theory is wrong?

Link me to your theory?

I think Shiro was killed due to Spirit Medium in general. That the future threat of talking to the dead was important to remove.

[Frozen Angel]

So the super bp will stop the super factional kills?!

No

The super factional kill would go through per Dream Weaver

But we just make sure only town gets super then huzzah we win.

True!

[Frozen Angel]

scum titus was already dead before last night started so whoever was the remaining scum, they didn't need to hide the fact that ank does not have any powers to save titus.

Which means they wanted to keep the confusion about ank not having power/didn't really want ank around/didn't believe we might mislynch shiro/just wanted to have a safe kill in people with powers

@Gamma

[MathBlade]

So we need a list of people with powers that don’t have BP and I hit them tonight with powers with the express purpose of picking up BP even if they don’t use it. Then if there is another time super strength comes up those same people get super (assuming they are still townread)

[Frozen Angel]

I never picked bp cause I thought phasing is the way more powerful version of same thing

[Gamma Emerald]

kind of a non presence

weird for gamma

should ISO and see what's up with that at some point

Well keep in mind I'm struggling to keep up with the mile a minute pace
but I don't think non-presence is a fair descriptor

[MathBlade]

I never picked bp cause I thought phasing is the way more powerful version of same thing

So you and me on the list and see how many people need BP first. Then next time SS rolls around if it does we hit people without SS.

At that point even with worst case scenario we would be at what 14 alive so 11 v3 yeah?