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Post Post #5800 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:10 am

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Should've trusted my gut when I saw the progression from day five to now

Oh well, I made a huge mistake on day two that probably cemented the late game loss so I can't really complain about it
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Post Post #5801 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:11 am

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And if one of our claimed prs was one of two pun alive right now? The balance would be way off

So I don't believe this ATM
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Post Post #5802 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:12 am

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In post 0, GuyInFreezer wrote:
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Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition


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  1. Wilky
  2. hebichan/OnTheMark,
    Commonwealth Strong Roleblocker
    , killed Night 4.
  3. Kaede Akamatsu,
    Commonwealth Innocent Child Action Passer
    , killed Night 5.
  4. ManWithNoName,
    Commonwealth Vanilla
    , killed Night 1.
  5. MariaR,
    Institute 1-shot Bulletproof 1-shot Strongarm Reconnoisseur
    , lynched Day 4.
  6. Wraith,
    Commonwealth Vanilla
    , lynched Day 2.
  7. Ramcius/YT2980/Prof Fridays
  8. Ankamius
  9. Ouroboros (AnonymousGhost + RadiantCowbells),
    Commonwealth Modified Neighborizer Tracker
    , killed Night 2.
  10. Tchill13/punreader
  11. Dunnstral
  12. verylazy/Kokichi Oma,
    Commonwealth Vanilla
    , lynched Day 6.
  13. Impossibear (EspeciallyTheLies + Jingle),
    Commonwealth Compulsive 1-shot Bulletproof Conditional Vigilante
    , killed Night 3.
  14. davesaz,
    Commonwealth Miller
    , lynched Day 5.
  15. Ventriloquist,
    Institute Factional Ability Swapper
    , lynched Day 1.
  16. Alchemist21,
    Commonwealth Weapon Vendor
    , killed Night 6.
  17. Nero Cain/projectmatt,
    Institute Rolecop
    , lynched Day 3.
  18. REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
These don't look like "5 scum in 18 person game" power roles
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Post Post #5803 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:12 am

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Shhhh Dunnstral I still have my strong double kill remember
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Post Post #5804 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 5799, Dunnstral wrote:17 players is a 4 scum game, 21 players is a 5 scum game, this game has 18 players
Blame GuyInFreezer.

I didn't make the broken setup; I just exploited it.
In post 5800, Ankamius wrote:Oh well, I made a huge mistake on day two that probably cemented the late game loss so I can't really complain about it
If it makes a difference to you, Ank, I really did want to nightkill you, I just never got a chance because I had better kills to make. Safer kills that weren't neon signs pointing to me being pun. There's high praise of you mixed with healthy dosages of fear in the pun PT.
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Post Post #5805 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:14 am

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How did you two react to me supporting you on dave
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Post Post #5806 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 5805, Ankamius wrote:How did you two react to me supporting you on dave
Cried tears of joy that it actually worked.

I'm also quite surprised you didn't notice that I used a classical old trick there; put all stock into one punread and then continuously be lost afterwards to justify mislynching prior townreads.
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Post Post #5807 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:19 am

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I think the part that fooled me more was your overall lack of presence day six and knowing that it wasn't AI
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Post Post #5808 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 5807, Ankamius wrote:I think the part that fooled me more was your overall lack of presence day six and knowing that it wasn't AI
It wasn't. I'd have been just as inactive as town. Arguably more.

I do confess to overextending myself a little, so I am quite pleased I have one less commitment on my hands.

I am sad the town didn't win since you played more than well enough for it and at every stage I felt guilty for lynching these players that I knew I should by all rights be defending.

Alas. 'Tis what it is.
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Post Post #5809 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:25 am

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Anyways

I think if I had tried to be a rock for Kaede and pushed my wraith townread harder, I think the game would've been a lot different. The Wraith lynch was devastating in effect since it meant Impossibear had to push for the projectmatt lynch day three instead of having it day two and having them be around for a push on... potentially Ramcius?
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Post Post #5810 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:25 am

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In post 5808, Punreader wrote:
In post 5807, Ankamius wrote:I think the part that fooled me more was your overall lack of presence day six and knowing that it wasn't AI
It wasn't. I'd have been just as inactive as town. Arguably more.

I do confess to overextending myself a little, so I am quite pleased I have one less commitment on my hands.

I am sad the town didn't win since you played more than well enough for it and at every stage I felt guilty for lynching these players that I knew I should by all rights be defending.

Alas. 'Tis what it is.
Nah I don't think town deserves a win, the early game was a massive mess and the ones of us that were left didn't pick up the pieces well enough
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Post Post #5811 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:28 am

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In post 5809, Ankamius wrote:Anyways

I think if I had tried to be a rock for Kaede and pushed my wraith townread harder, I think the game would've been a lot different. The Wraith lynch was devastating in effect since it meant Impossibear had to push for the projectmatt lynch day three instead of having it day two and having them be around for a push on... potentially Ramcius?
I mean I did tell you Wraith was town.

Of course my plan was to push Ouroboros instead of Wraith, but being V/LA without advanced knowledge of the gamestate while you're eager for a lynch will do that. (My punbuddies were rather unhelpful in regards to helping me catch up. Which I never properly did, mind you. I coulda during the night, but I always got distracted by other obligations, so I really never did read the game.)
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Post Post #5812 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 5810, Ankamius wrote:Nah I don't think town deserves a win, the early game was a massive mess and the ones of us that were left didn't pick up the pieces well enough
That's because the players most critical to cohesion, minus yourself, were also the players who held the strongest roles in the game. So their deaths had the unfortunate side-effect of disrupting town cohesion.

I do hold that the town really does deserve to win this game.

It's just that with this lynch they didn't.
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Post Post #5813 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:31 am

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You never would've gotten away with an Ouroboros lynch, he's the type of player I don't generally townread, so having that strong of a read was going to stop me from ever agreeing to it
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Post Post #5814 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 5813, Ankamius wrote:You never would've gotten away with an Ouroboros lynch, he's the type of player I don't generally townread, so having that strong of a read was going to stop me from ever agreeing to it
Well how was I supposed to know that given you had an identically-strong townread on projectmatt?
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Post Post #5815 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:36 am

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You don't unless you know my history with both of them, which is why it's probably good that you didn't get to go that route :P
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Post Post #5816 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:37 am

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my history of reading Nero Cain is abysmal and I've never played with pmatt before, so

I used to be able to tell the difference between RCs towngame and scumgame, but I both don't remember what the difference is not think that it's relevant anymore
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Post Post #5817 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:38 am

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In post 5815, Ankamius wrote:You don't unless you know my history with both of them, which is why it's probably good that you didn't get to go that route :P
Well it ended up good for
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Post Post #5818 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:38 am

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Actually I don't have an abysmal read rate with Nero Cain, but I don't have a set way of reading him like other players
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Post Post #5819 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:40 am

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In post 5817, Punreader wrote:
In post 5815, Ankamius wrote:You don't unless you know my history with both of them, which is why it's probably good that you didn't get to go that route :P
Well it ended up good for
me
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Tbh if I had caught you on day two amongst the locktown reads a lot of people had on you, that would've probably made me even more useless after the townblock dwindled
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Post Post #5820 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:42 am

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In post 5819, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5817, Punreader wrote:
In post 5815, Ankamius wrote:You don't unless you know my history with both of them, which is why it's probably good that you didn't get to go that route :P
Well it ended up good for
me
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Tbh if I had caught you on day two amongst the locktown reads a lot of people had on you, that would've probably made me even more useless after the townblock dwindled
Were people townreading me that much on D2? I honestly thought it wasn't until D3 or D4 that started to happen.
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Post Post #5821 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:53 am

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I thought so? It might have been D3 idk
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Post Post #5822 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:03 pm

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Now that I think about it, your response to my setup questions were scummy too
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Post Post #5823 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:20 pm

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If wilky doesn't end the game we lynch Punreader

They're going to claim it was a reaction test of course, I think it looks like a scum gambit
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Post Post #5824 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:23 pm

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shrug

I don't think that's a gambit solo-scum Pun does but who knows

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