i went for nos because i realized i didnt remember anything he did this game and he could be coasting
you were loud and wrong but that isn't unusual with you
Anyways, I was going to ask about this earlier, before Katsuki's guilty; Dunnstral, would you mind elaborating on your townread on MariaR? I think it was Spiffeh who asked for reasons for her being scum and I wanted to talk a little about that and I think it would be useful to also hear why people townread her in the first place.
Well, that post was mostly a joke, but I'm not sure why I should be
ignoring
Katsuki here. Even if I take it that he's lying about his guilty, I still believe that MariaR is scum; it doesn't actually change anything for me when it comes to my willingness to vote her.
In post 3272, Kokichi Oma wrote:Would there really be a scum gunsmith? Trying to find the balance aspect with poisoner and roleblocker
Why do you think scum have a roleblocker?
Cause the dead scum was roleblocker?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
What's to be gained by waiting? If he's scum he's just going to lie anyways. I would start writing about Maria but I'd like to hear what Dunnstral has to say first, and I think I'm going to sleep soon.
In post 3282, Moment wrote:Anyways, I was going to ask about this earlier, before Katsuki's guilty; Dunnstral, would you mind elaborating on your townread on MariaR? I think it was Spiffeh who asked for reasons for her being scum and I wanted to talk a little about that and I think it would be useful to also hear why people townread her in the first place.
Well, that post was mostly a joke, but I'm not sure why I should be
ignoring
Katsuki here. Even if I take it that he's lying about his guilty, I still believe that MariaR is scum; it doesn't actually change anything for me when it comes to my willingness to vote her.
In post 637, MariaR wrote:Pedit: Would you join a Dunnstral wagon Moment? I'm pretty confident on that atm prob 60% Why is the Nos wagon a thing too like I joined that to save Spiffy but I don't know what the whole thing for him is being scum.
Most likely not; I don't think I really recall any reasons for him being scum outside of Spiffy pointing out his apparent hypocrisy, which I don't think would be a reliable scumtell.
Alright. How do you feel about Purr Sakura and Brain?
First inside a quote I believe her saying she's 60% confident I'll flip scum is towny and I can understand how she would think I was different/scumread me there
Do i think she could jump on me as scum? Sure, but, to jump on me, then also go at odds with Purrcocet, Sakura, and Brian here, all of which she seems to know to a good degree - I don't think she goes for that
In post 651, MariaR wrote:Mmm that's fine. Do you know why you read me as scummy for this game at least?
Because i feel like dunn's role makes no sense as a scum oriented role and you're pushing it real hard, I also had entirely the opposite opinion of Dunn wanting to help out by artificially extending the deadline, I thought it was towny. I think your stance on Nancy is quite easy, and I feel you are trying to sort me by looking at my interactions with other people instead of directly enganging me, which feels kind of unusual.
Why does a scum double voter not make sense to you? I'm pushing dunn for his play not his role I already disagreed with you on the deadline stuff so I get that. I don't feel like I've sorted you by interactions at all though I've looked at your posts and tried to determine if there towny or scummy.
Not mentioning my double vote when pushing me is a towntell - I feel as scum she'd have brought that up and tried to frame it as cause for concern
In post 701, MariaR wrote:That's fine and I think he's scum. I have the most experience with him out of anyone here and I'm way more confident in my ability to read Dunnstral than anyone here. Now I've tried to explain why Dunn is scum and I can do it again if you want but I'm not gonna kick and scream like I did before.
Again, I think the push on me early comes from town, this is another quote that reaffirms that for me
In post 723, MariaR wrote:Ok I'm done watching big brother I'm gonna let the thread breathe I'm clearly not going to get support on Dunnstral I think he's scum and nothing has shown me why his actions come from town dunn at all perhaps we'll visit it another day. I'm just annoyed for the most part because a major point of this style was so people would hopefully understand and listen to my reads more but it's the same old same old. I'll stay away from the thread for a bit VOTE: Brian Skies
She talks about trying a new style a few times and that's another reason I townread her, I think she's more likely to try a new style here as town than scum.
In post 940, MariaR wrote:Only reason I don't want to rly vote Kat is ate
The reaction to Katsuki AtE is very much like her town self
The whole Mylo defense thing is all more likely to come from town Maria than scum Maria, in my opinion, I thought she really looked like town there from my experiences playing with her
In post 1154, Sakura Hana wrote:Damn, the entire scumteam is piling on Mylo according to MariaR?
Can you stop being a bitch?
More likely to come from town than scum (not impossible though)
In post 1160, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Mylo
w/e fuck this I'm out enjoy your town flip
I don't think she's faking anger/annoyance and I think that makes her town
She wouldn't get mad if Mylo was her scum buddy
In post 1168, MariaR wrote:I'm trying to type this without ate. I've wanted to fix my meta for a long time because I keep getting told I'm only good at scum and my town game is shit. So I'm trying really hard to prove that incorrect that I can have good town games. I don't mind getting told I'm incorrect or wrong and talking over why I'm wrong but I don't want to get talked too like I'm a moron it's a slap to the face
This is almost certainly town Maria and not a scum ploy
She could be saying this stuff as scum, true, but I don't think it's nearly as likely, also I don't think she would be this upset
In post 1583, MariaR wrote:In most fakegod games it's 3 scum based off that logic bussing in stuff like this seems very stupid unless someone was very confident in there scum game that they could carry to the end and honestly no one in this playerlist strikes me as someone with an impressive scum game so I don't think that logic fits here.
Vc's like 1.6 and 1.8 don't make me think Nos is scum but I think 1.6 to 1.7 is one of the more telling VC's in the set looking at said vote counts I think moment is one of the worser looking people in this. I was townreading them for how they were scumreading me for buddying and that's not really false but I'd like to hear if I'm coocoo or not for suspecting that I imagine'd they would be voting me here but it doesn't seem like they are. If they were I'd still believe the read but now it feels like something they just tried to bite into.
I still dislike Dunnstral but perhaps it's a case of me not understanding something so I'm calling it scummy? Like I still can see him flipping scum but the thing giving me cold feet is I can't see anything that I find scummy in his iso besides the early game play it's mostly nullish.
I'd like to know why people tr Purrcocet as well I doubt I'd get a lynch there but it is for sure someone in my sights of wanting to vote if I had to make a pool of suspects at the moment it'd be
(Purr Moment Muffin Dunn) but the problem here is as I said in the top part of my post I doubt scum bussed. If it was near the end of the day that's ok but early on like moment did I'm a bit "eh" on it's why brain isn't in my pool of suspects right now. if Muffin is scum like I'm thinking I doubt Sakura is
I don't get the project matt scumreads either unless it's based on vcs
This random logic dump that doesn't address anything in thread comes from town
In post 1676, MariaR wrote:This is me not wanting to play this game rn and dodging
Because of Katsuki; she's more likely town from this annoyance
In post 2027, MariaR wrote:Dunn what's with you btw? You've never ever been this interested with my slot before and by interested I mean try some sparky reply or ask a weird question on almost every post I make. Like you've
never
been like this before. In fact you normally don't talk about me at all
In post 1934, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The timing of my/TBG pushes is suspicious af. I also really disliked Matt’s push on Moment. I can’t imagine anyone pushing a wagon on one player while presumably having a guilty on another.
Because the guilty is fake.
Muffins would never fake a guilty. It goes against the very fiber of his being.
How do you expect me to trust two people who were trying to mislynch me?
Mafia is a game about trust. The towns that work together are the one's that win together it's a team game based around talking theory etc people can be wrong and you need to figure out if it was scummy or just a mistake I don't think you shouldn't trust someone on the bases that they want to ml you before
In post 1417, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm not speaking another language, just think wisdom is scum here based on meta. Considering I've played about 10 games with him at this point.
Can you point to a previous game that makes you think Wisdom is scum here and explain why?
This
Responses here all look towny to me
In post 2060, MariaR wrote:1) My confidence comes from liking to think people are decent human beings who wouldn't post stuff like kat did to get townread as scum. It's called having morals
2) I feel like the only time before this game where I've said the amount of you talking you do is AI before was as scum? The only other time I said it as town was years ago to get a reaction from you. Your words don't really mean much in the grand outlook because we just disagree. You can't really disprove my own reasoning for wanting to read you because it's wifom at the end of the day
3) If you're that naive to the way you come off to people sometimes I'm seriously worried about you
Pedit: @Wisom I think townreading someone for making a bad push is super weak and easily one of the fakest things you can do.
This is towny too
In post 2718, MariaR wrote:I'm gonna ignore kat and Muffins caps lock posting though unless they wanna give legit explanations I get Muffin is scum so they won't do that but meh it's annoying
DEMONSTRATE IT RIGHT NOW BY UNVOTING THE MOD-CONFIRMED TOWN MUFFINS AND VOTE TBG
Your gimmick isn't cute. If you were gonna cop anyone it'd be the person who almost made you rage.
Cop me next while you're at it. But you're not a cop so
She really looks like town in her dealings with Katsuki and Muffin around here
In post 2723, MariaR wrote:I get you want to circlejerk with your friend so you wanna make an obv fake inno and sure go for it but post legit content along with it and not just "get off my inno" that isn't real. Get it over with chop chop. If you won't lynch your friend that badly at least pretend to be playing thanks
Oh no! Is Maria mad because she's about to lose her buddy now that her designated mislynches are being taken off the table?
However can I atone for my sins?
Should I prostrate myself to you by putting my pants over my head and mislynching town slots for you?
You call people bad because they don't agree with you and discredit them and shut them down for it. Instead of explaining why you just feel the need to insult people. So when you feel like playing mafia and not the game of lord brain lmk
In post 2842, MariaR wrote:I don't believe Kat or Muffin at all is the thing it has nothing to do with the claims I think they're acting like this just to be toxic asshats and now you're joining in
In post 2927, Spiffeh wrote:I’m just gonna sit on Muffin and check back near deadline if I need to condense on someone
I think lynching anyone other than him is a mistake and I’m sad what I believe to be a fake cop result is dissuading people from wanting him to die
^
In post 3027, MariaR wrote:Muffin you just saying I'm scum isn't doing anything. You should be explaining your sentences and focus on that instead of the overall toxic gameplay. When I played with you before you were obv town so fast and here I'm not seeing it I'm seeing 2 dif people and that logic and the way you were pushing on obv town in a way that didn't seem to be a way to figure out there alignment doesn't feel towny to me. Now it's your turn.
And this all comes from town
There's a lot of my own meta and experience mixed in with this but this shows what I'm thinking
I'm confident that Maria is town here, so yeah katsuki is fake claiming and they should feel bad for doing it to the one person who thought they had morals
As for your claim I don't believe "3 shot cop that flips as not cop" for a second
When you flip we're ignoring your reads - because that's what they are, they're not investigative results and you're being toxic by insisting that it is
Did the prequel to this game have a similarly gimmicky set up?
At this point I find it pretty unbelievable that Kokichi wouldn’t put a guilty as town without much set up information, and instead just tunnel his guilty all day?
There’s having a guilty and claiming it, or there’s identifying that it’s an odd set up and playing it normally. Choosing not to put but also tunneling the slot is an odd choice.
Like it seems like he’s scum who got a guilty result but knows it’s a mislymvh so he doesn’t want to claim it knowing he’ll look bad upon Wisdom’s town flip?
In post 3295, Spiffeh wrote:Did the prequel to this game have a similarly gimmicky set up?
At this point I find it pretty unbelievable that Kokichi wouldn’t put a guilty as town without much set up information, and instead just tunnel his guilty all day?
There’s having a guilty and claiming it, or there’s identifying that it’s an odd set up and playing it normally. Choosing not to put but also tunneling the slot is an odd choice.
I thought his response to pressure was pretty towny
We can at least assume that if he was scum he didn't submit the kill or the poison
