It's a pointless conversation today, I'd consider it tomorrow but I'm not basing today's lynch off it.In post 7899, the worst wrote:this is basically what I'm anglin' at @Sando
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yeah nah most definitely. the good thing here is we have time to think thru it and if it does have some gaping flaw I'm not thinking of y'all can plan around it or I'll try. I'm OK at breaking games and this game isn't breakable but this is the best I can think of.
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vote: Gamma emeraldOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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also lurk creature is scum creature. kill that?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Ngl creature could go either way
his reads when he has been here have been more nuanced gamestate aware town creature indicative but his postocunt has been scum indicative so he could flip town, could flip scum. it's deffo within his scumrange to fake this and it's pingy that he rocks up and posts when he's called out but that's not high scum equity rn
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yeah, the bomber is disadvantageous if it blows up 2 town. i do not think it’s worth it. especially if a scum player blows up an established town player with them.In post 7863, MathBlade wrote:Plus the math is horribly off. For every bomber there is a two step decrease in player count.
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I am thinking if we do this (which I am not so sure about) we force them to go off that night on predefined targets rather than during the day.In post 7886, Frozen Angel wrote:we cen get self detonation tomorrow night right? so it will be a plan for 2 days later in game. The number might be way shorter than what you're saying which is actually a positive thing for that plan
This means scum can’t kill one of the recipients and stop it from going off.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Creature isn’t lurking?In post 7904, Nero Cain wrote:also lurk creature is scum creature. kill that?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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She asked for help catching up and I got swamped sorry. Maybe quote it again?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yes it isIn post 7895, Frozen Angel wrote:is petrification available the night bomb is out there?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It seems to count as a night action it doesn’t have the SS modifier that was there and is listed like a regular power.In post 7891, Sando wrote:Math I assume I can't ask the mod yet, so I'm asking you, does the self detonation count as a night action? Could a scum use BP overnight and then blow themselves up safely the next day do you think?
I don’t think scum could do that based on the formattingScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 7866, the worst wrote:say you pick 2 scum and 1 town to give it to. you lose 3-4 town + 2 scum? that's..... sensational?
say you pick 3 town, you lose 3-6 townies who need to die for you to sort the rest of the list, plus 0-3 scum depending literally on how many scum are in the lynchpool
idk if that works though. i really don’t think it will benefit town to potentially lose a ton of townplayers when we have our poe pool set. i just think there are better ways we can handle this, like with the tracker power that is available apparently next day phase. it’s better to be safe than sorry imoIn post 7868, the worst wrote:this is by far the cleverest idea I've ever had mechanically and stungun can prolly back me up that when I have mechanical ideas they're usually
(though I was scum that time and I can't think of a way scum benefits from literally removing the lynchpool from the game LMAO)-
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If everyone likes this can we plan it out though?In post 7885, Frozen Angel wrote:
actually I liked this mathIn post 7882, the worst wrote:In post 7866, the worst wrote:say you pick 2 scum and 1 town to give it to. you lose 3-4 town + 2 scum? that's..... sensational?
say you pick 3 town, you lose 3-6 townies who need to die for you to sort the rest of the list, plus 0-3 scum depending literally on how many scum are in the lynchpool
1) We give powers and targets during the day; deviating from them at night is a scum claim
2) We have to make sure that the most trust worthy get bombs like Stun Creature and SandoScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Tracker doesn’t make them harder to kill.In post 7916, stungun0404 wrote:a bunch of bulletproof trackers will be awfully hard for scum to kill....
They can be BP or track not both.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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posts like nothing until he's called out for playing in his scum metaIn post 7910, MathBlade wrote:
Creature isn’t lurking?In post 7904, Nero Cain wrote:also lurk creature is scum creature. kill that?
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i would not know that b/c i have not had a power yet, lol.In post 7917, MathBlade wrote:
Tracker doesn’t make them harder to kill.In post 7916, stungun0404 wrote:a bunch of bulletproof trackers will be awfully hard for scum to kill....
They can be BP or track not both.
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but likeIn post 7914, stungun0404 wrote:In post 7866, the worst wrote:say you pick 2 scum and 1 town to give it to. you lose 3-4 town + 2 scum? that's..... sensational?
say you pick 3 town, you lose 3-6 townies who need to die for you to sort the rest of the list, plus 0-3 scum depending literally on how many scum are in the lynchpool
idk if that works though. i really don’t think it will benefit town to potentially lose a ton of townplayers when we have our poe pool set. i just think there are better ways we can handle this, like with the tracker power that is available apparently next day phase. it’s better to be safe than sorry imoIn post 7868, the worst wrote:this is by far the cleverest idea I've ever had mechanically and stungun can prolly back me up that when I have mechanical ideas they're usually
(though I was scum that time and I can't think of a way scum benefits from literally removing the lynchpool from the game LMAO)
worst case scenario, say we go pants on head and mislynch b2b we're down to 15 p in 12v3, say the nukefest somehow manages to wipe 6 townies
you're down to 6v3 and know for a fact that the townblock is fucked in the head and has three wolves in it
best case scenario? you ping 3 scum with the strat, all of them grab alternate abilities. even with petrification you just lynch the three of them b2b2b.
anyone who thinks the PoE lynchpool actually has scum in it should be blown away by how gr8 this strat is (unless they're scum).
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....and lit af music taste won't get you out of this if you're scum-
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Have a little faith in me I can read Creature. <3In post 7918, the worst wrote:
posts like nothing until he's called out for playing in his scum metaIn post 7910, MathBlade wrote:
Creature isn’t lurking?In post 7904, Nero Cain wrote:also lurk creature is scum creature. kill that?
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Like I am pretty sure Sando Stun and Creature are all town. Add one more then distribute the bombs and force them to go off at night.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am kinda thinking this might just work.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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