In post 8598, Sakura Hana wrote:My only worry is that scum somehow manages to kill me by either of those 3 things and we get a scum leader again.
I think if scum has a factional means of overriding all superpowers, then it would make this game unfairly scumsided.
Before we found out about SS, I did wonder about a factional strongman but it would seem unlikely.
I don’t know what would happen if two players used SS on each other, probably their rival actions would fail? I should ask the mod about that but that would be my guess.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 8598, Sakura Hana wrote:My only worry is that scum somehow manages to kill me by either of those 3 things and we get a scum leader again.
I think if scum has a factional means of overriding all superpowers, then it would make this game unfairly scumsided.
Before we found out about SS, I did wonder about a factional strongman but it would seem unlikely.
I don’t know what would happen if two players used SS on each other, probably their rival actions would fail? I should ask the mod about that but that would be my guess.
the first few posts should address this, I went and read them while bored and saw a lot of questions were answered there
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In post 8602, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t know what would happen if two players used SS on each other, probably their rival actions would fail? I should ask the mod about that but that would be my guess.
No it's fairly simple.
SS ignores modifications and blocks.
The keyword here is "ignores" it doesnt block or modify another player's action.
In post 8407, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Have you played with Drixx before and how familiar are you with his meta? Do you read his play as being specifically wolfy here or does he come accross as a wolfy player in general?
You are trying really hard to discredit my case huh?
No, why would I do that? Since when is asking questions, considered to be “discrediting”?
I don't feel like either of those questions are very relevant and they seem pretty pointed. Like does my experience with Drixx and/or knowing his meta really matter? I can't identify scum play unless I have the necessary experience or knowledge of meta? Your other question about whether or not I always find Drixx scummy doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than "Yes, I always find Drixx scummy." "Ok well, this is just conf bias then." But like, we've already kinda talked about this...like in our whole tw games where we were both town I scum read him for being a lurksack and then in the other game I hard scumread the House head. You'd know this if you read. Like really, the links to this exact argument are there. You seem to be sniping from the sidelines and not really dealing with the specifics of the case and it smells like inside information.
Drixx's early stink eyes @ everyone that was pushing for Titus and Toogs defending Titus don't seem all that dissimilar to me. If Toog is scum for defending Titus why isn't Drixx scum for chainsaw attacking all Titus' early enemies?
Like town playing poorly is a thing and its more than possible that that's whats happening here but I feel like my reasoning to suspect him are pretty valid.
So, I’m assuming you’re fine with voting Sakura for leader then? I honestly don’t see how with her arming herself with SS bp - as long as everyone votes her - I don’t see how scum can possibly mess this up.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
no but I don't think I've ever played with a cerb-drixx town
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
In post 8407, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Have you played with Drixx before and how familiar are you with his meta? Do you read his play as being specifically wolfy here or does he come accross as a wolfy player in general?
You are trying really hard to discredit my case huh?
No, why would I do that? Since when is asking questions, considered to be “discrediting”?
I don't feel like either of those questions are very relevant and they seem pretty pointed. Like does my experience with Drixx and/or knowing his meta really matter? I can't identify scum play unless I have the necessary experience or knowledge of meta? Your other question about whether or not I always find Drixx scummy doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than "Yes, I always find Drixx scummy." "Ok well, this is just conf bias then." But like, we've already kinda talked about this...like in our whole tw games where we were both town I scum read him for being a lurksack and then in the other game I hard scumread the House head. You'd know this if you read. Like really, the links to this exact argument are there. You seem to be sniping from the sidelines and not really dealing with the specifics of the case and it smells like inside information.
Drixx's early stink eyes @ everyone that was pushing for Titus and Toogs defending Titus don't seem all that dissimilar to me. If Toog is scum for defending Titus why isn't Drixx scum for chainsaw attacking all Titus' early enemies?
Like town playing poorly is a thing and its more than possible that that's whats happening here but I feel like my reasoning to suspect him are pretty valid.
So, I’m assuming you’re fine with voting Sakura for leader then? I honestly don’t see how with her arming herself with SS bp - as long as everyone votes her - I don’t see how scum can possibly mess this up.
how is talking about Hana an acceptable response to my criticism of your criticism of my Drixx suspicion?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
In post 8403, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:He fakeclaimed a gulity on Sando soon after he replaced into Chicadee slot.
It was actually like a whole 2 game days after I replaced in but more importantly you can't prove its a fake claim until I flip!
Don’t you mean, when Sando flips?
nope!
i couldve been redirected this whole time
The setup states that we all start off as vanillas and the only PRs are those who were either elected leader or picked as superheroes. To the best of my recollection, you have been neither.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 8598, Sakura Hana wrote:My only worry is that scum somehow manages to kill me by either of those 3 things and we get a scum leader again.
I think if scum has a factional means of overriding all superpowers, then it would make this game unfairly scumsided.
Before we found out about SS, I did wonder about a factional strongman but it would seem unlikely.
I don’t know what would happen if two players used SS on each other, probably their rival actions would fail? I should ask the mod about that but that would be my guess.
the first few posts should address this, I went and read them while bored and saw a lot of questions were answered there
Okay thanks, I’ll check that out.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 8403, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:He fakeclaimed a gulity on Sando soon after he replaced into Chicadee slot.
It was actually like a whole 2 game days after I replaced in but more importantly you can't prove its a fake claim until I flip!
Don’t you mean, when Sando flips?
nope!
i couldve been redirected this whole time
The setup states that we all start off as vanillas and the only PRs are those who were either elected leader or picked as superheroes. To the best of my recollection, you have been neither.
If my action is SS'd it cannot be negated/redirected in any way, shape or form because it ignores it, so a power negate even if SS'd wouldnt prevent me from activating Impenetrable Skin, it would however still prevent people from targeting me with super powers.
A kill is also an action, and Impenetrable Skin is the one that blocks it (impenetrable skin is a block for kills, so is the new ability that is a doc), so an SS'd kill with go through Impenetrable Skin.
Impenetrable Skin doesnt target, it's kind of a self-doc, so redirections dont work on it by default, but if they did SS also prevents such.
It can be a bit convoluted to understand, but that's also how basic NAR works in any case.
If an action modifies another player's action, the player's action is modified unless it's own action could prevent it from being modified (for example, commuter, nexus, hider), in which case, the one with the highest priority on NAR occurs, to avoid paradoxes.
In post 8407, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Have you played with Drixx before and how familiar are you with his meta? Do you read his play as being specifically wolfy here or does he come accross as a wolfy player in general?
You are trying really hard to discredit my case huh?
No, why would I do that? Since when is asking questions, considered to be “discrediting”?
I don't feel like either of those questions are very relevant and they seem pretty pointed. Like does my experience with Drixx and/or knowing his meta really matter? I can't identify scum play unless I have the necessary experience or knowledge of meta? Your other question about whether or not I always find Drixx scummy doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than "Yes, I always find Drixx scummy." "Ok well, this is just conf bias then." But like, we've already kinda talked about this...like in our whole tw games where we were both town I scum read him for being a lurksack and then in the other game I hard scumread the House head. You'd know this if you read. Like really, the links to this exact argument are there. You seem to be sniping from the sidelines and not really dealing with the specifics of the case and it smells like inside information.
Drixx's early stink eyes @ everyone that was pushing for Titus and Toogs defending Titus don't seem all that dissimilar to me. If Toog is scum for defending Titus why isn't Drixx scum for chainsaw attacking all Titus' early enemies?
Like town playing poorly is a thing and its more than possible that that's whats happening here but I feel like my reasoning to suspect him are pretty valid.
So, I’m assuming you’re fine with voting Sakura for leader then? I honestly don’t see how with her arming herself with SS bp - as long as everyone votes her - I don’t see how scum can possibly mess this up.
how is talking about Hana an acceptable response to my criticism of your criticism of my Drixx suspicion?
I didn’t “criticize” anything, what I did do is say that I wasn’t yet convinced and asked you further questions. I don’t for the life of me understand why you’re “criticizing” me in the first place. FA promised to ISO Drixx tomorrow. I’ll wait for that.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 8403, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:He fakeclaimed a gulity on Sando soon after he replaced into Chicadee slot.
It was actually like a whole 2 game days after I replaced in but more importantly you can't prove its a fake claim until I flip!
Don’t you mean, when Sando flips?
nope!
i couldve been redirected this whole time
The setup states that we all start off as vanillas and the only PRs are those who were either elected leader or picked as superheroes. To the best of my recollection, you have been neither.
thats to ur knowledge innit
It’s expressly stated in the setup.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
What does FA's opinion have anything to do with this?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
In post 8613, Sakura Hana wrote:If my action is SS'd it cannot be negated/redirected in any way, shape or form because it ignores it, so a power negate even if SS'd wouldnt prevent me from activating Impenetrable Skin, it would however still prevent people from targeting me with super powers.
A kill is also an action, and Impenetrable Skin is the one that blocks it (impenetrable skin is a block for kills, so is the new ability that is a doc), so an SS'd kill with go through Impenetrable Skin.
Impenetrable Skin doesnt target, it's kind of a self-doc, so redirections dont work on it by default, but if they did SS also prevents such.
It can be a bit convoluted to understand, but that's also how basic NAR works in any case.
If an action modifies another player's action, the player's action is modified unless it's own action could prevent it from being modified (for example, commuter, nexus, hider), in which case, the one with the highest priority on NAR occurs, to avoid paradoxes.
That’s good to know. I also don’t see Math reneging on picking you. That would be anti-town af if he did that.
I think the only think that possibly prevents you being leader if not enough people vote for you. which is why I don’t want to risk you not getting it by splitting votes.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
@Sakura , if you think the leader issue has been resolved to your satisfaction, I can hammer at any time.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.