Mini 2017: Encore Mafia - Now Without Cults [Endgame]

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 6.03

[1] Myloninja13 ~ Awoo

[3] Not Voting ~ mastina, mutantdevle, Myloninja13

Deadline is at (expired on 2018-08-13 23:00:00).

[Awoo]

oh wow! look at that deadline. You're gong to have to flail faster, mylo

[Awoo]

I'd like us to lynch today because mastina is going to die tonight and I am going to riot

[mutantdevle]

OR we can no lynch.

It's established that I don't die when hiding behind people so I can just flip a coin on hiding behind either Awoo or Myloninja to hide behind and whichever one of you is scum will just have to kill the other in the hopes that I've hidden there to get 2 kills in 1 night and win the game. The game will either immediately end in a scum win or we will start the next day with one of Awoo or Myloninja dead thus proving the other as scum.

For this plan, I 100% promise that I won't be hiding behind Mastina or choosing not to hide at all. That way, if they choose to kill Mastina then we know they are the type of player who prefers to play it safe, and if there is no kill then we know they don't trust my word and tried to kill me. Either way, it tells us something about them.


Sound good mastina?

[Myloninja13]

oh wow! look at that deadline. You're gong to have to flail faster, mylo

I really don't want to seem rude but aren't you just shading me here, the thing you said I shouldn't do?

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 6.04

[1] Myloninja13 ~ Awoo

[3] Not Voting ~ mastina, mutantdevle, Myloninja13

Deadline is at (expired on 2018-08-13 23:00:00).

mastina is V/LA until the 13th.

[Awoo]

Sure whatever works

[mastina]

OR we can no lynch.

It's established that I don't die when hiding behind people so I can just flip a coin on hiding behind either Awoo or Myloninja to hide behind and whichever one of you is scum will just have to kill the other in the hopes that I've hidden there to get 2 kills in 1 night and win the game. The game will either immediately end in a scum win or we will start the next day with one of Awoo or Myloninja dead thus proving the other as scum.

For this plan, I 100% promise that I won't be hiding behind Mastina or choosing not to hide at all. That way, if they choose to kill Mastina then we know they are the type of player who prefers to play it safe, and if there is no kill then we know they don't trust my word and tried to kill me. Either way, it tells us something about them.

Sound good mastina?

There's an argument to be had both way RE: lynching/no-lynching.
Since you're the one with the role, the decision to lynch/no lynch lies with you; if you think the no-lynch is better, then we no-lynch.

That having been said.

I'd prefer any such no lynch to be by deadline, as to give me the most time to read, ask questions, etc. while also allowing for instance Awoo to respond to Myloninja, something which needs to be done sooner rather than later. (Preferably so that we're both guaranteed to be alive to peer review it, as it were.)

[Awoo]

sorry but i have another exam tmr

[Awoo]

and then i have another exam on day 15

[mutantdevle]

Well you have less than a day mastina since deadlines are very short right now.

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 6.05

[1] Myloninja13 ~ Awoo

[3] Not Voting ~ mastina, mutantdevle, Myloninja13

[KittyMo]

Day 6 has ended with no lynch.

It is now Night 6. Deadline is at (expired on 2018-08-15 23:15:00).

If all 4 living players privately inform me that they are ready for Night to end early, this will occur.

[KittyMo]

mutantdevle, Town Innocent Child from Open 699 - Pick Your Poison, Died Night 6

It is now Day 7.

[3] Not Voting ~ Awoo, mastina, Myloninja13

Deadline is at (expired on 2018-08-22 23:00:00).

(Sorry for the delay.)

[Awoo]

Video games

[Awoo]

was REALLY hoping to be dead today btw. Worst case scenario would have been mastina dying.

[Myloninja13]

Oh god, we have to do this again lol.

[Myloninja13]

Awoo, just for now please don't vote. This kill means I think there's a bit more chance of Mastina scum tbh, and it also means that the night 2 no kill was not someone shooting Mutant and him hiding, so Mastina doesn't get a townread for that.

[Myloninja13]

I am going to attempt to solve this tonight, but untl then neither of you vote please. We have a good 6 days, we don't have to worry about losing yet.

[Awoo]

idk about that but try your best anyways.

[mastina]

I'll be honest: I completely dropped the ball, here.
I was SUPPOSED to do work here. Reread, reanalyze, etc.
I did not.
I didn't even know that we had gone into night, yet alone finished it.

And this is something that I DO need to try and figure out.

When I can (I'm phoneposting, so I need to get home from dance), I'll explain some more where I am coming from here.

[mastina]

Alright, so now that I'm home:

I'll explain some more where I am coming from here.

Where I'm coming from here is a tough spot, because both of you have reasons to be town and reasons to be scum--yet these reasons are vastly different (almost opposite) of one another, and I'm struggling to come up with one being a probability over the other.

What I mean by this is.

There are reasons for Awoo to be scum. Among them, mutant suspected Awoo's play more than I did and mutant died; furthermore, there's Awoo's attitude.

not responding to your posts I have an exam tmr

oh wow! look at that deadline. You're gong to have to flail faster, mylo

Sure whatever works

sorry but i have another exam tmr

and then i have another exam on day 15

Video games

During this whole time, Awoo has basically made excuse after excuse to do nothing. To provide nothing. Myloninja put in time and effort to make one HELL of a wallpost, and Awoo never got to responding to it even though that is something I specifically wanted Awoo to do (and I seem to recall even explicitly asking Awoo to respond to it but I may be mistaken there).

Basically, Awoo has solid reason to be scum just biding time, waiting it out, knowing that I'd be inclined to vote Mylo over Awoo naturally. Awoo looks like scum who doesn't feel the need to do anything, because I'll hand Awoo the win just by me being me. And in contrast, Mylo has put in some strong work indicating town.

I can cite the big wall yesterday, but I can also point to what looks like genuine gamesolving here:

Awoo, just for now please don't vote. This kill means I think there's a bit more chance of Mastina scum tbh, and it also means that the night 2 no kill was not someone shooting Mutant and him hiding, so Mastina doesn't get a townread for that.

I am going to attempt to solve this tonight, but untl then neither of you vote please. We have a good 6 days, we don't have to worry about losing yet.

...BUT ON THE OTHER HAND.

On the other hand.

There is strong evidence for Myloninja to be scum.
For a start, the missing kill N2 makes sense if Mylo used a 1x PGO that night.
mutant seemed open to that as a working theory, so Mylo had incentive to kill mutant as well, especially since a successful mutant death would give credence to the idea of me being scum.

And from that angle, the very same gamesolving posts can also be thought of as leaving options open. Myloninja is, quite specifically, not committing to either lynch, and in spite of

saying

that gamesolving would happen, hasn't put in the time/effort to do so, so in that regard, Mylo has the same mark against him that Awoo does.

And then there's how, other than his big gigantic wall, prior to then, all we got from Mylo is strings of posts like this:

I... don't actually really know what to say here lol. I mean, I could begin screaming but I like I think I've somewhat evolved past that lol. I'll be on later tonight if anyone wants to have a quick time talk, but right now I have to go to school sorry.

And similar posts throughout the whole game. Where he promises effort and yet doesn't deliver; what makes 1548 noteworthy is that it's the first time Mylo

does

.

Yet even that effort can be explained by Mylo knowing he's at a disadvantage. Knowing mechanically evidence points to him, knowing he is suspected, he'd know he'd need to put in some amount of effort to hopefully avert the inevitable, and it's worked so far to have that effect.

That's more or less the town and scum reasons for both of you, but the problem is, I can't figure out which is more likely. Which is the probability, versus which is a simple possibility.

I could really use some more from both of you right now.

[mastina]

Well so far isoing the nightkills is a little bit of a bust.
BNL didn't have anything I could use; Pine died thinking all three of us were town. He did earlier hold Awoo suspicion and dropped it for reasons that aren't the greatest, but he still died thinking all of us were town. mutant as I mentioned before gave mixed signals; he seemed to think by play Awoo was much worse but by role mechanics thought Awoo might be conftown.

I'll see if I can glean anything from Wisdom.

[mastina]

Huh.

because awoo is town

i dont want to lynch awoo

kokichi, mylo, implosion

if you want to flashwagon someone I'm always up for mylo

hey tw
doesnt mylo lack this transparent newbtown feel he had in coalition here? Or was i just biased there because scum

mostly agree with these reads i guess
though id rather pressure mylo
the rest are harder to read

Mylo feels different than town-him

also
VOTE: mylo
i should be sheeped

Happy with my Mylo vote currently

I'm pretty sure Mylo is the player most frequently mentioned by Wisdom, consistently as a scumread. He also died saying he didn't want to lynch Awoo.

That

does

look kinda bad for Mylo.

[Awoo]

HI mastina! effort comes tomorrow. thanks for your posts, if you're mafia you've probably already won.