Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[Wisdom]

but if he doesnt poison who we say hes scumclaiming

[MariaR]

Idk guys I feel like having leashed killing power is pretty good to me I like having more than 1 lynch where if math is scum has to poison someone of our choosing but sure go nuts

Remember the argument i made when i thought you were the scum poisoner.
It's literally just letting a scum slot live so they can do a 2x kill again.

The dif is we pick who said kill is because whoever we're picking we assume we'd have lynched at one point so it saves us a lynch and gives mafia less choices of night kill and poe.

[MariaR]

You know this game is scary when you're agreeing with wisdom most of all.

[Sakura Hana]

but if he doesnt poison who we say hes scumclaiming

True, but, if he poisons who we say he's playing against win con anyway or just flat out helping town in any case, He might just poison someone else and for the same result of getting lynched anyway so.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Besides as I said im fairly sure that there has to be a scum MC for balance.

[Nancy Drew 39]

yes exactly and you don't think fakegod went "hey hang on that was a bit op" let's nerf that a little!

yeah the MCs have been nerfed i dont think the town:scum MC ratio was changed tho. since MCs are STILL the strongest PRs.

Yeah, I think Math claimed as a scum gambit. He could well be telling the truth about being

alternate

poisoner[/b]. This could mean that we still would have one poisoner who isn’t a main, perhaps another doc as well.

Maybe Math as also telling the truth about his slot, not poisoning Katsuki, which could mean we have a minor town poisoner as well.

At any rate, I think we still need to lynch Math today.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok so here's another thing:
If scum has a poisoner along Math, then WTF is Math's role for an MC, scum's wouldnt be an MC coz there's 3 MCs, so scum cannot have something as strong as math's role or stronger, which then leaves Math as the only poisoner.

[Sakura Hana]

Minuet's Roles:
Scum: N2 Vig, Double JK (MC), Vanilla Cop
Town: Weak FN (MC), Tracking Watcher (MC), N2 Vig, Vanilla Cop x4, Rest VTs

[Purrcocet]

math is town
if you guys want to lynch a townie then go with mariaR lol but apparently we got past that

im pretty fine with that flip cause it would have cleared up a lot of dumb shit in this game

[MariaR]

scum had a vig
town had a vig

what's to say poisoner can't be the same thing if we're assuming scum in gunsmiths

[Prof Fridays]

You know this game is scary when you're agreeing with wisdom most of all.

Especially when he wants Muffin and I killed for no good reason.

but if he doesnt poison who we say hes scumclaiming

True, but, if he poisons who we say he's playing against win con anyway or just flat out helping town in any case, He might just poison someone else and for the same result of getting lynched anyway so.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Besides as I said im fairly sure that there has to be a scum MC for balance.

I'm not convinced personally, even if it would benefit me to do so (MathBlade as scum MC poisoner makes me conftown). I have a hard time understanding how MathBlade's play thus far comes from scum!MB.

Ok so here's another thing:
If scum has a poisoner along Math, then WTF is Math's role for an MC, scum's wouldnt be an MC coz there's 3 MCs, so scum cannot have something as strong as math's role or stronger, which then leaves Math as the only poisoner.

Do the rules explicitly state that as the case (that is, that MCs are necessarily stronger than any other non-MC PR)? I feel like Brian's weak MC role makes room for these exceptions in MathBlade as town poisoner and 2 scum non-MC PRs.

[Nancy Drew 39]

lynch Sakura tomorrow then a ton of innocent town that have no guns.

Again, i have no gun, so if im scum im the poisoner, you can have literally all 5 gunsmiths check me the same night if you dont believe me.
OR
Im just town.

Math, I don’t see why you’re so sure Sakura is scum. Her theory on the mains is solid. Muffin was the one who thought your character was defacto scum. He just thought it was Maria and not you.

[MariaR]

No it's just assumed because most of the times MC's have been op compared to other roles

[Purrcocet]

wisdom, sakura slash prof friday? what do u think

[Prof Fridays]

No it's just assumed because most of the times MC's have been op compared to other roles

Then I rest my case.

[Sakura Hana]

scum had a vig
town had a vig

what's to say poisoner can't be the same thing if we're assuming scum in gunsmiths

they werent MC.
If you agree that Poisoner is something MC level (which should be if you believe Math), then there's no way there's another poisoner, which means pmatt poisoned Katsuki.

[MathBlade]

VoteCount 1.10

Sakura Hana [1] - projectmatt
Nosferatu [2] - Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39
Wisdom [2] - Dunnstral x2
zMuffinMan [1] - Kokichi Oma

Myloninja13 [9] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Wisdom, zMuffinMan [LYNCH]

projectmatt [1] - TehBrawlGuy

Not Voting [2]

- Myloninja13, MariaR

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-26 15:00:00)

Mastina rule of thumb. Scum bus.
So at least one of Sakura, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Katsuki, Wisdom, and Muffin are scum. Take out Brian confirmed town.

Spiffeh is town simply for the fact mylo bothered to make an effort.
viewtopic.php?p=10336908#p10336908 votes here.
Brian Skies is confirmed town by Sakura's own admission pressured the wagon. Sakura here doesn't even mention that she just wants pressure. She then switches to Katsuki and then just votes mylo no reasons.

viewtopic.php?p=10343097#p10343097 That post is absolutely true spew.
Myloninja13 [7] - Wisdom, Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, MariaR
Simple cross reference muffin is spewed town. MariaR is also LIKELY but not spewed town.

One scum is in Wisdom, Sakura, Moment, Nos, Spiffeh guaranteed.

This means based on the gunsmith claims, Purrocet is spewed town.

[MariaR]

scum had a vig
town had a vig

what's to say poisoner can't be the same thing if we're assuming scum in gunsmiths

they werent MC.
If you agree that Poisoner is something MC level (which should be if you believe Math), then there's no way there's another poisoner, which means pmatt poisoned Katsuki.

Perhaps scum have a x-shot poisoner? That'd make sense

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ok so here's another thing:
If scum has a poisoner along Math, then WTF is Math's role for an MC, scum's wouldnt be an MC coz there's 3 MCs, so scum cannot have something as strong as math's role or stronger, which then leaves Math as the only poisoner.

math is town
if you guys want to lynch a townie then go with mariaR lol but apparently we got past that

im pretty fine with that flip cause it would have cleared up a lot of dumb shit in this game

But Purr, 3 town mains would screw up the balance, because the mains have the most power. What I don’t understand is my role PM doesn’t specify that I’m a minor character, so I’m assuming that only mains do? I wish I had asked Ank that before she replaced out.

[MathBlade]

lynch Sakura tomorrow then a ton of innocent town that have no guns.

Again, i have no gun, so if im scum im the poisoner, you can have literally all 5 gunsmiths check me the same night if you dont believe me.
OR
Im just town.

Math, I don’t see why you’re so sure Sakura is scum. Her theory on the mains is solid. Muffin was the one who thought your character was defacto scum. He just thought it was Maria and not you.

Because she's been pushing an improper theory, not pushing any reads for any content based reasons, not trying to argue meta or try to figure out why I'm doing what I'm doing.

Tell me, do you have a gun?

[Sakura Hana]

If you dont believe MCs are strong in this game basically we have.

Scum: Roleblocker, (Poisoner of some kind that's not MC), Something (Maybe gunsmith)
Town: 4-5 Gunsmiths, Neighborizing JOAT (MC), Non Consecutive Doc (MC), VTs?, Something else?

So currently as we know the only way of finding scum are the gunsmiths and Katsuki's cop shots (which supposedly were bad, but we dont know exactly how yet).
And a bunch of Gunsmiths that cannot find the poisoner and are also millers to each other so we cant find the scum gunsmith if existant either.

Dunno it seems to me that INDEED the MCs are more powerful here again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Nancy Drew 39]

math is town
if you guys want to lynch a townie then go with mariaR lol but apparently we got past that

im pretty fine with that flip cause it would have cleared up a lot of dumb shit in this game

We really don’t have a great reason to lynch Maria though. Muffin was convinced she had Math’s flavour.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok so here's another thing:
If scum has a poisoner along Math, then WTF is Math's role for an MC, scum's wouldnt be an MC coz there's 3 MCs, so scum cannot have something as strong as math's role or stronger, which then leaves Math as the only poisoner.

math is town
if you guys want to lynch a townie then go with mariaR lol but apparently we got past that

im pretty fine with that flip cause it would have cleared up a lot of dumb shit in this game

But Purr, 3 town mains would screw up the balance, because the mains have the most power. What I don’t understand is my role PM doesn’t specify that I’m a minor character, so I’m assuming that only mains do? I wish I had asked Ank that before she replaced out.

There are sample role PMs for both Nancy.

[Wisdom]

wisdom, sakura slash prof friday? what do u think

muffin and prof
sakura unlikely

[Purrcocet]

But Purr, 3 town mains would screw up the balance, because the mains have the most power. What I don’t understand is my role PM doesn’t specify that I’m a minor character, so I’m assuming that only mains do? I wish I had asked Ank that before she replaced out.

Nancy, I failed math class so idk how to answer that one bro


We can
(and should i think at this point)
flip Math(blade)

For the sake of the gamestate
I think its real interesting how Sakura has Math locked scum

I know Im awful but I have maths play as hardtown

VOTE: MathBlade

[Nancy Drew 39]

scum had a vig
town had a vig

what's to say poisoner can't be the same thing if we're assuming scum in gunsmiths

they werent MC.
If you agree that Poisoner is something MC level (which should be if you believe Math), then there's no way there's another poisoner, which means pmatt poisoned Katsuki.

I think there could be another poisoner - who isn’t a main - and that Math didn’t necessarily poison Katsuki. I don’t think that clears him, however.

My problem is in every single one of the games Sakura quoted, there have been a ratio of 2:1 town to scum. What are the odds of this game having all 3 town mains?