Only one right way to start after that flip
VOTE: Garmr
In post 1085, Garmr wrote:I'm confused on how no one died last night since Gustavo claimed to have a protective role in his joat.
But anyway might as well lynch james's scum buddy
VOTE: Locke113
It's really not that confusing that no one died, there's plenty of ways that could have happened.
In post 1086, Gustavo wrote:So we know now that garmr was chainsaw defending garmr. Do we think garmr pivoted and went for town cred via bussing or does everyone think he’s lock town.
I ask cause that flip doesn’t change anything for me personally but if he’s lock town to everyone else I’ll just drop it and ignore him.
Personally I don't understand how anyone could think Garmr's locktown
In post 1094, Hiraki wrote:@All: There is no reason Gustavo has to not share his info.
Vote: Gustavo
I understand wanting Gus to share his info but please don't vote the PR
In post 1095, Garmr wrote: In post 1091, Gustavo wrote: In post 1089, Garmr wrote:So what power did you use gustavo and what were the results?
I’m not interacting with you the remainder of the game. I’ll out whatever info I have when I feel it’s useful to do so.
You can interact on a civil level instead of being a child.
I mean clearly you both can't be civil after the shitshow that was D1. You even said yourself on D1 that you just can't let things he says slide which means you'll say something he can't let go either and the cycle continues
In post 1098, Garmr wrote:Thought I may rehash my reasons for voting locke.
Avoided the Gustavo vs me fiasco by not puting a vote down on me. While making it clear I was in his scum reads.
In post 523, Locke113 wrote:This plus the fact that Garmr has decided not to quit makes me feel like the "replace out" was a gambit and I'm definitely considering voting him, though not sure would that put him at L-1? I'll double check, not sure whether I want to put someone to L-1 yet though the rate this day is going I might so all the constant irrational as hell arguments can be over for a while.
Was self conscious about putting me at L-1 yet didn't shift the vote over to me latter when my wagon died (Plus I don't think i was l-1). Which when combined with this post.
In post 523, Locke113 wrote:Gonna catch up with the rest and see what the VC is on Garmr, until then I'll keep my vote here
Through out the day he had the chance to shift to my wagon. I think this was because he was being cautious about how he was perceived. So it shows caution in actions while a town would be more willing to lynch a scum read.
He also had a scum read of James and Me. Yet he made it clear I was put higher than James. Also Probably will get some backlash from this Locke was chainsawing for james when it came to popopo Yet no one had a adverse reaction at the time compared to me. This makes me think scum wanted it to go under the radar. By writing off popopos post as forced tunnelling.
In post 372, Locke113 wrote:I'm pretty sure the only thing that's forced is your constant tunelling
through out all 166 mentions of james in his iso not once did he actually push james or call one of james's posts scummy. At most you get sketchy and then he defends the loaded question bit. He frames mine,popo and golden robes posts as scummy in his scum reads yet he he never mentions one of James's pushes any of James's post scummy yet he scum reads James? Actually any reference to James being scummy is him agreeing with another player/regurgitating what over players have said.
In post 820, Locke113 wrote:Just because I was glad his inactivity was stopping doesn't mean
I don't scum read James
I don't think he realised that this would be a slip up. that would catch him latter down the line. This implies has james in is scum pile or at the vary least null-scum. Wouldn't you want to push your scum reads for info?
Taking it one step further all his interactions with James are practically conversation/correcting him not questions to push him. There is one exception
In post 372, Locke113 wrote:I'm pretty sure popo's reason for attacking you is the same as it always has been, because he's tunnelling you
In post 749, Locke113 wrote:Liking that James is finally catching up, still not sold on him but at least he'll be able to contribute to the game more once he's caught up
In post 890, Locke113 wrote:Garmr was no longer tunneling at this point, he was just still arguing with Gus since neither of them can get along but he had unvoted him by that point if I recall correctly
This is the exception
In post 890, Locke113 wrote:Why is your townread on Seal so strong? I don't think you've ever gone into detail about your read of him so far but you've pretty consistently had him as one of your top townreads
It doesn't really push James hard at all. Also it bring unreal seal to light after a James flip.
Also the vote on golden robe only came after robe said they wanted James to be lynched and at the time I was voting gustavo. A lot of question to why she was voting james popped up.
In post 890, Locke113 wrote:
I don't know about anyone else's resistance to the James wagon but mine is just I'd prefer rob/doolittle slot to be lynched more, but I would be willing to lynch James if seemed like neither rob/doolittle or you weren't getting lynched today
Tries to explain away resistance to the James wagon.
1. My hesitation at voting you at first was because I was catching up and didn't want to accidentally hammer you and my vote stayed on GR/Dr.D because I scum readed them more than you since my scum read on you didn't work as well with James' alignment unknown at the time. If he was town you might still have been scum trying to buddy but I didn't think that was likely, but if he was scum you were basically confscum for me, which you now are.
2a. I scumread you higher because while you were less likely to be scum if James were to flip town, you did more anti-town shit, also Popo was tunnelling, James being scum doesn't change that, Popo gives barely any explanation for anything he does which I don't like thats the reason only you gave a shit at my interactions with Popo.
2b. I did try to get info from James, but he was inactive as fuck most of d1 so I didn't get any answers until basically the very end with no real chance to follow up plus I did say I thought James was scummy outright in my post responding to you first bringing up this poorly constructed case on me
2c.
3. GR was voting Gustavo at the time I voted him, why would I have cared about them wanting to lynch James when James was in no danger at that point in the game?
4. I was responding to a post where you weren't understanding the fact people weren't immediately lynching James just because you voted him, how is me explaining the fact he wasn't my highest scum read but that I was willing to jump on his wagon if it came down to it since I did scum read him part of your case on me?
if you're going to make a case on me, please actually make a good one
In post 1105, Akarin wrote: In post 1104, Gustavo wrote:
So you don’t think it’s possible he bussed for town cred which he desperately needed?
I don't think it's
likely
. Or rather, I think he'd absolutely bus in that situation but I don't think it's likely he was scum with James. There are 3 people I'd much rather lynch and at least a few that I'd somewhat prefer to Garmr.
From where I'm sitting you seem extremely confbiased, please don't take that personally.
Why don't you find it likely? Also who are the 3 people you are considering lynching today? Assuming Krazy is one since you're currently voting him
In post 1107, Akarin wrote:I wasn't really looking at these much before but 56 and 62 from Gamma really are what look worst in the whole "chainsawing James" mess.
@Krazy
@Gus
What do you two think of those? Were they things that you were considering in your first posts of the day or mostly other things?
I'm not seeing what about those posts was the worst part of that shitshow? Can you please explain?
Can people please stop voting the PR?
In post 1122, Akarin wrote: In post 1090, Krazy wrote:my lynch pool right now basically is only [locke, Gamma]
Yesterday I kinda thought Gamma was town based on meta, but meta is BS and the reads look a lot worse after James' flip.
In post 344, Krazy wrote:re: Garmr, while we see this more often from town, I kind of feel like that's mostly because there's more town in the game. I wash my hands of the /out and the AtE in the return, so I'm sticking with my earlier read of Garmr as scum.
...
After that, I'm thinking about Gamma and French. I'm playing with Gamma's vote on Garmr in my head. Gamma + Garmr team? It kind of looks like distancing, considering how quickly he was willing to jump to James. Both votes look weak.
I'm also playing with French in my lineup.
Rob is probtown, so to me this reads like distancing between Gamma and French. Not much but there's not much to work with beyond that in this slot.
Scum Levels
Garmr -- 40% scum
Gamma -- 35% scum
French -- 30% scum
Baseline -- 8% scum
In post 508, Krazy wrote:Gus wagon has French, Gamma, and Garmr?
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In post 804, Krazy wrote:This day fits Gamma's town profile slightly more than Gamma's scum profile, although meta is bullshit and I still don't like his votes, particularly the Gus vote. This reads as Wrong!Gamma.
But no interest in a BJ lynch today, despite, for example, post
1057 where BJ had their vote on James and didn't move it to Garmr. But reason for no BJ push is about wagon position?
Plus, starting at 1063 the
way
Krazy hammered and the start of day posts. I think it was a grab for towncred, and that Krazy is afraid of Gamma.
VOTE: Krazy
why would Krazy be afraid of Gamma? though overall like this post and I would at least consider joining a Krazy wagon if Garmr definitely doesn't happen
