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Post Post #9400 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:13 pm

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I'm currently on the fence of if it's better to just give power to all my TRs so they can have self watchers and leave us the scum's footprints in pretty colors or just go with the apocalypse plan, hence why i want to hear from Drixx coz i know he was against the plan yesterday and im wondering if what me and math said have changed his mind.
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Post Post #9401 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:16 pm

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Isn't the goo plan just a roundabout version of the boom plan? lmao you'll just sequentially lynch outside of the townblock until town wins anyway, and maybe eventually the lynchpool will be dead and you'll realised you've been duped by someone or other the entire time.

Only difference is if you stall it gives hypothetical deepwolves more opportunities for powers along with more for town

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Post Post #9402 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 9376, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 9347, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9345, Sakura Hana wrote:So Titus gave power to a scummate instead of Ank.
In post 9073, Sakura Hana wrote:N2: Titus > FA, Nancy, Shiro, Math, Ank (Ank died)
So one of Nancy, FA or Math is scum?
Lololol, Math is right. Is this a derp? Titus clearly gave the power to
someone else
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Someone
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Personally if it were confirmed Titus didn't give Ank powers I'd be looking pretty damn hard at Drixx right now. I don't see Shiro kill as a protection of "hidden" but protection of Drixx, it makes a lot more sense logically.
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They'd already hit someone not BPing in Cerb who was fairly likely to Medium, they had a soft-claim of it in Ank, reasonable to assume they could wipe out or contain the mediums, which they did in fact do.
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Post Post #9403 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:29 pm

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Wasn't Titus hard pushing Drixx though?
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Post Post #9404 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:32 pm

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Ngl tje highlight of this game will always be the sod2 with the reveal of Titus' avatar in the leader slot and every single person in the game sans 4 being like "lol o fuck"
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Post Post #9405 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:32 pm

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I like to think the scumteam laughed manically
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Post Post #9406 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:35 pm

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Unfortunately for scum, SS was on last night, and that means they cant power negate a thing as long as whoever picked SS uses SS. They CAN bypass a BP with SS, but if the player used self watcher OH FUCK for scum xD
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Post Post #9407 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:36 pm

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In any case if i do a color thing it will be
Pink
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Post Post #9408 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:36 pm

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Votecount 5.1
Leader: Sakura Hana

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Kokichi Oma (2):
Kokichi Oma, the worst

Creature (1):
hebichan
Nosferatu (1):
Creature

Drixx (0):

Frozen Angel (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

MathBlade(0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nero Cain (0):

Sando (0):

Theta Alpine(0):

the worst (0):

Toranaga (0):


Not Voting (15):
Drixx, Frozen Angel, Gamma Emerald, MathBlade, Nancy Drew 39, Nero Cain, Nosferatu, Sakura Hana, Sando, Theta Alpine, Toranaga

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Goo Generation:
Until the next Night Phase, anyone that successfully targets you will be covered in goo of a single color of your choice.
Petrification:
Target another player. That player loses their ability to post, vote, and submit actions and no longer counts for parity.
Power Absorption:
You acquire any Superpowers that successfully target you.
Power Echo:
Target another player. Any targeting Superpowers this player uses this Night Phase will be used on another player of your choice in addition to their original target.
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Target another player. Both you and that player will die.
Superhuman Tracking:
Target another player. You will know who that player targets this Night Phase.

**May be used during the Day but still counts against the following Night's Superpower usage. If used during the Day, resolves immediately. If used during the Night, resolves normally.
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Post Post #9409 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:44 pm

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lol, but that's such a small chance of such a big reward. besides scum will be sending their more lynchable players to do the kills anyway so why not bomb em now? :p
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Post Post #9410 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:59 pm

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A few thoughts ... some of which are left over from last day phase because thread locked while I was putting together a post.

1.) I took the doctor like ability last night and targeted our current leader with it. Figured it couldn't hurt and might save a kill. I didn't see any watch report so posting what I did in case someone was waiting to see what I would say.

2.) There's some serious intellectual dishonesty in the late part of yesterday. At least twice (and perhaps more often), I made it clear that my brain wasn't braining properly when I voted on day 2. I did NOT vote the person I felt was crossing the line with Titus. That doesn't change the fact that Titus was being wound up intentionally. Anyone who knows Titus and goes and reads even a small part of day 2 will know that. I am thus a little bit concerned that a couple people are pretending like I'm insisting that the particular vote I made was tied to my reasoning. I wasn't even the least bit obtuse in admitting that my memory was incorrect and I voted the wrong person.

2a.) Just as a side note: That gave Titus a really good reason to go way lower activity in day 2 than her usual self.

3.) I still think the suicide bombing plan is bad because giving scum what amounts to free mislynches is never a good idea and I don't think the game state warrants the risk.

4.) Someone yesterday implied that when I said I had dropped a town tell earlier in the game that I was referring to a
TRUST TELL
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refer to it in an attempt to take advantage of it
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Post Post #9411 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 9410, Drixx wrote:I did NOT vote the person I felt was crossing the line with Titus. That doesn't change the fact that Titus was being wound up intentionally. Anyone who knows Titus and goes and reads even a small part of day 2 will know that. I am thus a little bit concerned that a couple people are pretending like I'm insisting that the particular vote I made was tied to my reasoning. I wasn't even the least bit obtuse in admitting that my memory was incorrect and I voted the wrong person.
You literally said I was being voted because I was winding Titus up for no reason and making the game toxic:
In post 3090, Drixx wrote:Sando you got voted because you were literally intentionally winding Titus up to no possible town purpose. There was no good motivation to do what you were doing. It was toxic to the game state and so you are either scum and you were doing it to try and get Titus chasing in circles (which would merit re-evaluating Titus) or you were town doing it and just not giving a shit that you were making the game toxic.
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Post Post #9412 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:05 pm

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In post 9410, Drixx wrote:3.) I still think the suicide bombing plan is bad because giving scum what amounts to free mislynches is never a good idea and I don't think the game state warrants the risk.
This is actually either scum tmi or blatantly the worst posting I've ever seen. You're literally assuming all 3 scum are in the townblock, lol.
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Post Post #9413 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:08 pm

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In post 9410, Drixx wrote:1.) I took the doctor like ability last night and targeted our current leader with it. Figured it couldn't hurt and might save a kill. I didn't see any watch report so posting what I did in case someone was waiting to see what I would say.
im glad you actually tried to prevent a kill on me, but a power negate would've nullified it, did you miss my posts where i said i would 100% SS a BP?
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Post Post #9414 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:10 pm

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Technically there wasnt any guarantee that I would do it aside from my word, I did say it I would do it for the sake of information, any attempt at gambiting and then dying would've led you in the wrong direction.
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Post Post #9415 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 9393, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:But I still don’t understand your FA comment. I didn’t know what powers she had until D3 and she didn’t even claim PN until D4 iirc? So, my pick was unrelated to that. *confused*
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Post Post #9416 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:30 pm

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If I use a colored thing it will be in
Teal
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Post Post #9417 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:33 pm

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In post 9334, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9332, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 9329, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9327, Sakura Hana wrote:Now the question is, considering how OP a public self-watcher is do we really wanna go with the bombing plan? or should i just choose townies so if they die we know who targeted them.
And if we do i think we should probably announce colors beforehand.
How’d you get self watcher from that?
I thought it said another player?
Everyone that targets you would be publicly known by their color in the votecount.
So basically everyone knows who targeted you.
So basically a public self-watcher
I think that is backwards?

People give away goo. So all goo givers would have to hit the same target?

Then that target would be a rainbow?

Unless I am missing something.

Let me re-examine after work
what sakura said is true. I posted it in thread too
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Post Post #9418 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:35 pm

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In post 9347, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9345, Sakura Hana wrote:So Titus gave power to a scummate instead of Ank.
In post 9073, Sakura Hana wrote:N2: Titus > FA, Nancy, Shiro, Math, Ank (Ank died)
So one of Nancy, FA or Math is scum?
Titus claimed she gave it to ank and they killed ank in same night. do you think scum would allow ank to learn bp if they wanted to kill her? and they would loose a chance to get a power role?

so she chose someone else instead of ank.
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Post Post #9419 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:37 pm

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In post 9349, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9346, Nero Cain wrote:but real talk Math: don't use Petrification: on Creature. I mean, I guess you could but it seems useless and we want him dead. Save it. Self Petrification would be nice but not gonna happen...
Yes we do want him dead.

However forcing scum to kill me or negate me reveals a lot about the setup.

If Creature lives until tomorrow then Creature is confirmed scum and scum are confirmed to have negate.

If Creature is petrified then it confirms that scum thought he was a goner and held it (unlikely) or they don’t have it.

We have tons of obvTown forcing scum to kill me or negate me is a huge win.

We then blow up any potential scum and then give obvTown like FA and Nancy the goo and force them to use it since people were terrified of negates

This cages scum.

Give me a bit to think on this. But I think this is a lot better strategy.
why not bombing or lynching him? petrified players won't flip
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Post Post #9420 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:52 pm

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In post 9411, Sando wrote:
In post 9410, Drixx wrote:I did NOT vote the person I felt was crossing the line with Titus. That doesn't change the fact that Titus was being wound up intentionally. Anyone who knows Titus and goes and reads even a small part of day 2 will know that. I am thus a little bit concerned that a couple people are pretending like I'm insisting that the particular vote I made was tied to my reasoning. I wasn't even the least bit obtuse in admitting that my memory was incorrect and I voted the wrong person.
You literally said I was being voted because I was winding Titus up for no reason and making the game toxic:
In post 3090, Drixx wrote:Sando you got voted because you were literally intentionally winding Titus up to no possible town purpose. There was no good motivation to do what you were doing. It was toxic to the game state and so you are either scum and you were doing it to try and get Titus chasing in circles (which would merit re-evaluating Titus) or you were town doing it and just not giving a shit that you were making the game toxic.
And I've said
several
times no since then that I was relying upon my memory and didn't go back and check. It happens. Generally my memory is pretty reliable. Like ... it's not like my ISO is very long. The fact that you keep pretending like I didn't long ago thousands of posts back already disconnect YOU from the thing I was talking about really seems to be more and more of a stretch the more time goes on and the more times I say so.
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Post Post #9421 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:53 pm

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In post 9413, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 9410, Drixx wrote:1.) I took the doctor like ability last night and targeted our current leader with it. Figured it couldn't hurt and might save a kill. I didn't see any watch report so posting what I did in case someone was waiting to see what I would say.
im glad you actually tried to prevent a kill on me, but a power negate would've nullified it, did you miss my posts where i said i would 100% SS a BP?
There's too much unknown in the game to be certain. I wanted to be certain.
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Post Post #9422 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:54 pm

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In post 9412, the worst wrote:
In post 9410, Drixx wrote:3.) I still think the suicide bombing plan is bad because giving scum what amounts to free mislynches is never a good idea and I don't think the game state warrants the risk.
This is actually either scum tmi or blatantly the worst posting I've ever seen. You're literally assuming all 3 scum are in the townblock, lol.
People actually have expressed a belief that I'm scum. That dramatically raises my paranoia about the townblock being infiltrated. At this point, I am reassessing as much as is possible in a game of this length.
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Post Post #9423 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:01 pm

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In post 9421, Drixx wrote:
In post 9413, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 9410, Drixx wrote:1.) I took the doctor like ability last night and targeted our current leader with it. Figured it couldn't hurt and might save a kill. I didn't see any watch report so posting what I did in case someone was waiting to see what I would say.
im glad you actually tried to prevent a kill on me, but a power negate would've nullified it, did you miss my posts where i said i would 100% SS a BP?
There's too much unknown in the game to be certain. I wanted to be certain.
Ok i get that.
But i mean, it's only useful if you thought i was gambiting and wasnt going to SS a BP.
If scum had strongman or SS they would pierce both your and my protection.
If math was scum and didnt give me power, then scum would power negate me which would also prevent your protection.
So it kinda overlapped, Im still wondering about the why of that.
I wanna know what your thought process was about it.
Or is that it?
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Post Post #9424 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:07 pm

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Also i love how the thread title still says "Night 4"
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