Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Almost50]

He’s not and it’s suspicious as fuck, scum should not have more shots at trying to land power roles in the night

STATS say town has a BETTER WINNING RATE when the numbers by day are ODD. If we no-lynch then we go to night phase as 9, and we go into D2 as 8 << EVEN NUMBER.

Further more, he ALREADY CLAIMED A VT. Scum won't shoot him anyway (and that's assuming he is town.. just for the sake of the argument). Scum won't be shooting Toranaga either. They probably won't shoot me or Fromage either

if we no lynch

. If we do lynch and he flips green (which he won't) they won't be shooting me either, while "when" he flips red they are going to shoot one of us because we become semi-confirmed (unless you think I bus my buddy this hard).

[Eragon]

They won’t shoot you anyways becuase your scum

[Almost50]

I just think always having an extra townie is better than not having a town

Well, you're wrong and you need to get it right for when you do roll town.

[Almost50]

They won’t shoot you anyways becuase your scum

Prove it!

Vote yourself and let me hammer and if you flip town I will become confirmed scum.

[Eragon]

I just think always having an extra townie is better than not having a town

Well, you're wrong and you need to get it right for when you do roll town.

Oh, but you already said I don’t roll green

So is this TMI?

Or contradiction?

Either way just keep confirming yoursef as scum kthx

[Eragon]

They won’t shoot you anyways becuase your scum

Prove it!

Vote yourself and let me hammer and if you flip town I will become confirmed scum.

And then of course your going to say that “scum wouldn’t do that to kill one town, becuase a 1:1 trade favors town”

And your not going to get lynched becuase you’ve pocketed Fromage so hard that he follows every word you say like a cute little lapdog

[Almost50]

Is Fromage the only player in this game? Cuz the last time I checked there were 9 of us, and assuming I'm scum AND Fromage is pocketed, and my Scum buddy has the balls to oppose my lynch on D2 then there are FOUR others who would be happy to do it.

[Eragon]

And they might not be willing to go against Fromage, a claimed TPR and whoever your partner is

[Almost50]

Now YOU answer me this: If I', scum, why am I pushing for your lynch? Why you precisely? You already claimed a VT. Right? You're not even one of the players who know me well enough to get an accurate read over time. Why am I not lynching Wh4t? Or BuJaber? Or even Tor? Now one of them could be my scum buddy, but at least two are town and they all have more credibility reading me than you.

Why am I not pushing a wagon on Egg or Poseidon or even GnB? I could be getting some good info if I pushed either of them thus narrowing down my "PR pool".

But I understand you have to fight hard because your p is not experienced enough to pull this one off on their own, so I'm not mad at you for doing what scum are supposed to do.

[Eragon]

Your still pushing me becuase if you backed off
1) it would be incredibly wolfy
2) it would conf. Wolf you
3) it would make you be the top wagon

[Almost50]

And they might not be willing to go against Fromage, a claimed TPR and whoever your partner is

You see, this is STILL coming from a SCUM mindset. Reread what you've just typed. You are 100% certain Fromage is indeed a TPR and not fake claiming. Not a shred of doubt there. DESPITE THE FACT HE'S BEEN WITH ME ALL THE TIME, you still believe him to be a "pocketed" TPR and assert to the fact he is indeed a TPR.

[Almost50]

Your still pushing me becuase if you backed off
1) it would be incredibly wolfy
2) it would conf. Wolf you
3) it would make you be the top wagon

Yeah, but why did I pick you as my target in the first place? And why did I go so hard that I can't backtrack now?

And ftr, who do you think is my partner?? Amuse me.

[Eragon]

I am not 100% Fromage is TPR

I see no reason to disbelieve the claim and I’m not lynching a claimed PR without CC’s

There is a shred in my doubt if you read my read lists, I had him as “only town becuase of his claim” and I do believe he is PR, but I am not 100% confident.

And you are putting words in my mouth and misinterpreting me, which is -ev

[Eragon]

Your still pushing me becuase if you backed off
1) it would be incredibly wolfy
2) it would conf. Wolf you
3) it would make you be the top wagon

Yeah, but why did I pick you as my target in the first place? And why did I go so hard that I can't backtrack now?

And ftr, who do you think is my partner?? Amuse me.

Maybe you thought you had me as a PR and were trying to get me to claim, or rather, lack of claim

Hence “I DONT CARE WHAT YOU CLAIM IM LYNCHING YOU NO MATTER WHAT”

And your partner is Fromage, if the TPR claim is fake, BuJaber, or egg

[Eragon]

I don’t think Poseidon is scum becuase he could’ve voted me to L-1 and you woulda wuickhammered

Egg hasn’t been on

BuJaber is voting me

[GameNBurger]

CORRECTION


I MEANT TO SAY HES NOT RIGHT

ODD NYMBER ADVANTAGE IS THE MKST BASIC THING TO UNDERSTAND IN MAFIA THEORY

[Eragon]

???

[Eragon]

I still don’t get why you think +1 towny is worse than -1 towny

[GameNBurger]

You and A150 both said due to my ambiguous wording assumed that I was saying you were not wrong about no lynching

I mean to say I thought you were dead wrong about it and your promoting it is suspiscous

[Almost50]

You and A150 both said due to my ambiguous wording assumed that I was saying you were not wrong about no lynching

I mean to say I thought you were dead wrong about it and your promoting it is suspiscous

OK, could you please vote him? We roughly have 130 minutes left to deadline.

[GameNBurger]

Eragon let’s assume scum play a really good game and we get to lylo, that’s 3v2 lylo

That means 4 townies have died

We the town get to pick two of those kills

However if we no lynch like you’ve suggest we give up omen kd those two kills

You may not see value in town decided mislynches, but it’s much better than mafia deciding a kill

Plus the odds of the pr getting shot increases every night even if we assume scum have no brains and can’t pr hunt

Scum benefit entirely by no lynching. Mafia days are not enclosed games, it’s a long term game played over several day phases. The same amount of people are going to die until we ding scum. All no lynching accomplishes is give the scum one of those kills to decide for themselves.

[Eragon]

I guess I could see that

I just see no benefit in PURPOSLY voting town just becuase you don’t want to no-lynch

[GameNBurger]

I will be here for a while, I’ll move my vote because it’s better than nothing and the more he talks bad strategy the more it all looks strange

If anything his bad attempt at hammer gambiting with Tor makes more sense if he’s scum

[GameNBurger]

I guess I could see that

I just see no benefit in PURPOSLY voting town just becuase you don’t want to no-lynch

Because I’m not voting a TOWNY town

I’d be voting a SCUMMY town

There’s info to be gained from being able to be sure of somebody’s alignment

[Eragon]

How does hammer gambitting make more sense if I’m scum?

And can you not see the open wolfing A50 is pretty much doing?