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Post Post #9775 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:04 pm

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In post 9774, hebichan wrote:I'm pro two bombs. One either to creature or me doesn't matter, and two to actual scum.
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Post Post #9776 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:04 pm

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Post Post #9777 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:06 pm

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Btw here's a single bomb plan:
I put all 6 lynchpool into a blender, pick one and that person bombs whoever the fuck they want out of the other 5.

Cons: only 2 people die and both could be town.
Pros: Scum has a harder time figuring out who to power negate.
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Post Post #9778 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:08 pm

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Post Post #9779 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:09 pm

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Does the superhero team get a night only chat like in Fire's game?
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Post Post #9780 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:11 pm

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In post 9779, Nero Cain wrote:Does the superhero team get a night only chat like in Fire's game?
Nope.
I mean in the 3 bomber sugestion
it is true that scum can power negate one pair (since they only have to hit the bomber or the target so they can easily negate the full pair).
In a 2 bomber suggestion if we split them into groups of 3, scum has a 66% chance to negate succesfully on either group
In a 1 bomber suggestion, then scum would've to either hit the bomber or it's target out of 6, tho it needs a lil more math based on how many scum are in the pool, but yes.
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Post Post #9781 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:14 pm

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I think its more important to ask ourselves about the read on who we are giving the bombs.
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Post Post #9782 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:25 pm

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In post 9772, Toranaga wrote:
In post 9770, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9769, Toranaga wrote:I'll investigate how you brought this idea up.
The worst did.

Not me I enhanced it to try to be safer.

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don't be like that math :/

at some point you went from merely suggesting and not liking it to being extremely confident it would work. It CAN work, but we're not doing this cause it's gross and potentially game throwing. the setup benefits town. unnecessary kills are bad.
That some point was when I promised I would look into it and did and made formulas with excel sheets I could just plug and play numbers from.

I didn’t think of the power echo perspective. It didn’t cross my mind I am sorry. The reason I was so confident was because I put in all sorts of possibilities and no matter what it said we lose only if the core block had scum. I shouldn’t have been that forceful even though I thought I was right. I don’t have time to do the echo calculations now.

I still think three scum with power echo is unlikely but this is an actual mechanical concern that needs to be accounted for.
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Post Post #9783 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:25 pm

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In post 9758, Toranaga wrote:that ultimately only benefits scum
I don't really think it does though.
In post 9753, Drixx wrote:My job isn't to be the most obvious townie who ever towned and get myself night killed straightaway
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should. Like if scum aren't killing you it means you're not a threat to the scum team. Besides maybe questionable optimal PR play, town should always try to be a threat to scum. Of course, there are some town that are like "Well I'm going to be useless all game and then be townie late game."
In post 9752, Drixx wrote:BP negates one "strength" of kills. Add strongman and it's a +2 kill so it needs BP plus another protection.
This is bullshit.
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Post Post #9784 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:26 pm

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i volunteer to be the lone bomber
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Post Post #9785 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:27 pm

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In post 9753, Drixx wrote:@Nero - I'd appreciate a concise and specific list after the game of what is "bad" and what is "scummy" and why. Bad needs fixing. Scummy to casual view I don't give a shit about. My job isn't to be the most obvious townie who ever towned and get myself night killed straightaway. Especially since I'm hilariously bad on day one. It's basically a signature of Drixx play that you are going to suspect me.
this makes me want to self-harm

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Post Post #9786 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 9784, Nosferatu wrote:i volunteer to be the lone bomber
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Post Post #9787 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:31 pm

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In post 9747, hebichan wrote:I feel like nos and the worst is the most likely to be two scum.
if me and tw are the two scum then if i bomb anyone other than him, he's conf scum

and you get 2 scum for 1 town

it make sense to me to group people by having them bomb the one with the most associative tells to them.
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Post Post #9788 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:51 pm

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In post 9752, Drixx wrote:If the primary leader choice was killed off, we would be in disarray.
and this seems overly dramatic. If Hana got shot I'd feel sad but we'd be in disarray? Please. Something like a strongman could still bypass more than 1 layer of protection as I'm p sure that only a commute can "stop" a SM.

It's d5 and FMPOV you've just pretty much attacked Titus' attacked and then coasted the rest of the game. If you were town maybe you should start giving input on who is scum and why?
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Post Post #9789 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:03 pm

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Post Post #9790 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:09 pm

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im bombing you apparently
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Post Post #9791 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:10 pm

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personally i still think we need to get kokichi powers.
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Post Post #9792 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:11 pm

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I never implied that the left member would bomb the right one you know.
(And even if that's what you assumed that's not how i submitted the bombers)
Nor the viceversa either.
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Post Post #9793 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:11 pm

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Besides im still thinking of scratching the plan if ppl dont like it and just proceed as normal.
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Post Post #9794 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:12 pm

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if i cant bomb someone im replacing out
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Post Post #9795 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:13 pm

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In post 9794, Nosferatu wrote:if i cant bomb someone im replacing out
(tho I'll settle for being bombed)
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Post Post #9796 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:13 pm

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In post 9717, Toranaga wrote:@nancy, what power did you choose n1?
Siren’s Call but I think I misunderstood what it was. Anyway, I used it on Muffin, since I thought he’d be the NK.
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Post Post #9797 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:13 pm

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Sakura.... Just imagine the GLORY if you're the leader who delivers us 3 fucking filthy scumfuck heads :D
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Post Post #9798 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:16 pm

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In post 9721, Drixx wrote:
In post 9720, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 9667, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9664, Frozen Angel wrote:Yeah and your comment made me pissed off.

Like the hell is wrong with you?

We're finding a plan that will kill 6 players instantly. If we fuck up even in slightest its a fucking gg

So yes ofcourse we will talk about it and it's possible flaws.
I have spent for fucking ever on this.

And then you say the “safer” plan is the one that for all intents actually isn’t.

Like I proposed this yesterday and there was no issues except Drixx. And he has yet to bring up an issue with it.

I am just so beyond pissed I can’t talk straight.

Sakura wanted this done in 24 hours and I feel like no one is actually fucking listening to what I am saying.
I can at least understand parts of what you say but I’m not exactly some statistics wiz but Drixx’s posts make my eyes glaze over for the most part. Like that recent post of mine he quoted. It was a response to UFO’s question about who I voted for leader on N0. I honestly don’t have any freaking clue what he actually thought it was about.
I was just tongue in cheek there Nancy. This game is supposed to be fun. I was just having a bit of fun evoking a bit of *sad face* for being viewed as the lesser head of RR. It's just banter and nothing more.
Oh okay. I thought the other head was Taly though?
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Post Post #9799 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:17 pm

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