Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

I was actually thinking about the possibility of Echoing Drixx > Drixx.

I am thinking that we lynch Kokichi Drixx heals Nero as he is supposed to.
Nancy takes Power Echo heals Drixx
You take suicide bomber
Nero takes suicide bomber

And we don’t do the rest of it.

I would rather one safe vig that can’t be impeded with when Tor is back to giving me the creeps. He was against the suicide plan and now he is pushing it when we don’t know what factionals scum have. And it gives a ton of new people power echo.

I would rather do this and take precog

I have the massive fuck hell no going off.

Gotta go car pool person I am driving is here.

[MathBlade]

I was actually thinking about the possibility of Echoing Drixx > Drixx.

I am thinking that we lynch Kokichi Drixx heals Nero as he is supposed to.
Nancy takes Power Echo heals Drixx
You take suicide bomber
Nero takes suicide bomber

And we don’t do the rest of it.

I would rather one safe vig that can’t be impeded with when Tor is back to giving me the creeps. He was against the suicide plan and now he is pushing it when we don’t know what factionals scum have. And it gives a ton of new people power echo.

I would rather do this and take precog

I have the massive fuck hell no going off.

Gotta go car pool person I am driving is here.

Use precog *

I don’t need to take it lol

Keep me off powers

[Gamma Emerald]

Echoing Drixx > Drixx.

does that work?

[Toranaga]

that's cause you're an idiot math

you guys do whatever I'm done

[Sakura Hana]

Dunno asked the mod and he didnt answer me.
So someone's gonna have to do it and the mod's gonna have to tell them if it works or not.

[Sakura Hana]

If anything, I'm used to Math and Me disagreeing on reads. At least that clears up my paranoia.

[Toranaga]

ONE SAFE VIG BECAUSE TORANAGA IS GIVING ME CREEPS

fuck off dude

[Toranaga]

I broke the game in town's favour ffs

I don't need to get any fucking vig

but whoever is protected should have one for obvious reasons

all you have to disagree with it is bullshit af feelings you may or may not have about me

anyway this just pissed me off beyond reason, it's a beautiful day outside and it's friday so yeah

bye

[Gamma Emerald]

WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING VIG ABILITIES

[Toranaga]

I'm not doing the stupid bombing plan

this is the *give town 5 fucking vigs* plan

I was against inviting POE'd down players to take sui bombing because that was stupid

we're now getting the towncore to shoot at the POE instead

but yeah totally the same thing math jfc

[Gamma Emerald]

WHAT I MEAN IS WHERE WAS IT STATED THOSE EXISTED

[Toranaga]

WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING VIG ABILITIES

we're giving protected players a suicide bomb which will essentially work as a vig

we can have 2 of them sending off tonight and 3 of them sending off tomorrow during the day

[Toranaga]

If someone uses Self-Detonation and is protected by Force Field Generation, will they live?
Self-Detonation acts as a single killing action against both the user and their target. Therefore, it is possible for a user of Self-Detonation to be protected from their own ability.

from mod answers back in page 1

[MathBlade]

WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING VIG ABILITIES

Vig = Suicide Bomber + heal/immunity

@Toranaga yes it is!
Because we don’t fucking know what factionals scum have.

I could easily see scum getting some kind of mass or global roleblock or denial of power activation or 1 shot BP or mod knows what.

I can’t ask the question I gave. The power was revealed to me yesterday.

I was absolutely stupid to think the bombing plan would work in the first place I admit that.
But mainly I don’t trust Tor right now.

The fact there is no resistance to it and was to the bombing plan including other players besides Tor.
Like something feels wrong and I can’t put my finger on it.
And since I can’t I am opposed.

[Gamma Emerald]

ok then, but is self-detonation one-shot? If not then we have a VERY dangerous combo

[Toranaga]

there's no resistance against my plan cause it's solidly grounded in the game mechanics and everyone that understand the mechanics understand this is good

you're admitting you have jack shit against it and you just don't wanna do what I suggest because you don't like me this game or something.

and yeah sure GLOBAL ROLEBLOCK rofl you're abusing it now

[Toranaga]

ok then, but is self-detonation one-shot? If not then we have a VERY dangerous combo

we don't

nothing can kill a leader and two of the SUI bombs are leader related

the other 3 can be messed by wolves but we'll have ways to tell if our night actions got messed with or not

[MathBlade]

Then you tell me what the scum abilities are then?
They could have a roleblock that could kill Drixx and then we hunt for a negate that doesn’t exist.
They could have a strongman roleblock where Nancy gets slaughtered if she activates.

The fact we have seen 0 evidence of factional abilities and then you shading me for considering them is disingenuous at best.

My only flaws with the plan I had presented was if all three were scum then we still push it through or if three scum have echo.

However that is still too big a risk.

Now you’re saying expand the goddamn pool of people who have it and then are not concerned about scum echos either. Like you are having it both goddamn ways and if you are scum it’s with two lurkers and you didn’t want the plan because it pins you.

I do not condone the plan of someone who is pinging me this hard.

[MathBlade]

ok then, but is self-detonation one-shot? If not then we have a VERY dangerous combo

we don't

nothing can kill a leader and two of the SUI bombs are leader related

the other 3 can be messed by wolves but we'll have ways to tell if our night actions got messed with or not

The ones that are leader related can go off as that is mod immunity.

I am not for any of the others.

[MathBlade]

I can see scum very easily negating or roleblocking Drixx here. You being scum. Someone fucking with Nancy by putting in a kill action her way. There are way too many ways I can see that scum fuck with this.

[MathBlade]

If anything, I'm used to Math and Me disagreeing on reads. At least that clears up my paranoia.

Hmmm how about this?

We stake it on how good Toranaga’s read of Kokichi is.

If Kokichi is scum then Toranaga’s plan can go through and Kokichi was trying to manipulate me into distrust. But if Kokichi is town we do my safer version and look hard at Toranaga because that is Kokichi’s last wish which I will type up my plan in full tonight.

Win win.

[MathBlade]

Because if we have a scum death then a lot of the risks to Toranaga’s plan become mitigated as it would be 2v12 going into night.

[Toranaga]

funny when you wanted to literally invite scum to take abilities there was nothing scum could do to fuck with that plan

now there is

you lost all your credibility this game

[Toranaga]

If anything, I'm used to Math and Me disagreeing on reads. At least that clears up my paranoia.

Hmmm how about this?

We stake it on how good Toranaga’s read of Kokichi is.

If Kokichi is scum then Toranaga’s plan can go through and Kokichi was trying to manipulate me into distrust. But if Kokichi is town we do my safer version and look hard at Toranaga because that is Kokichi’s last wish which I will type up my plan in full tonight.

Win win.

no, how about this? I take sui, no one protects me and we both die

win win

[Toranaga]

and you're the reason FA isn't playing anymore

no let's kill each other math. if you suspect me so hard, die with me.