Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Theta Alpine]

VOTE: toranaga
if you flip town math should die
regardless tora your ability to flip-flop on slots is honestly amazing

[Toranaga]

there's also no building a convincing case on math. you either see it or you don't. you either believe his hardpushing for giving 3 POE'd down players abilities so they can sui bomb is town!math, or you see the obvious agenda behind it. you either believe he believes GLOBAL ROLEBLOCKING is an ability scum has and an argument against my first multiple vigs plan, or you don't and he is scum to you.

the amount of things mathblade said and pushed for that are unreasonable stances and look agenda driven is in most of math's posting. if he is wolf or town!math doing these things is up to town to determine. I don't think I can possibly read math with any accuracy, but I can absolutely see math being a wolf here and I'll trust sakura's instincts about it, the same way I'm trusting you and her on your feelings about kokichi.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: toranaga
if you flip town math should die
regardless tora your ability to flip-flop on slots is honestly amazing

mafia is hard

also I'm ~never sober

[Toranaga]

if I'm sober I can't possibly take playing mafia which is why I subbed the fuck out when talking to math. I need marijuana to deal with that.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Sorry, when im universally townread my paranoia can reach sky high. Because i cant ever tell the difference from scum TRing me than town TRing me.

Sometimes, it’s really obvious, like in Necromancer, where nearly everyone had me as locktown by D2. I didn’t used to be paranoid. I naively thought that, oh X is reading me correctly, they must be town.

But after scum!Ank pocketed me in Minuet and scum!random in Labrynth, I understand your paranoia a lot better, especially if most of the players aren’t necessarily townreading me.

Math was early on Titus wagon and after losing Numbers’ scum, was it likely a bus? I honestly wish I knew.

[Toranaga]

Y E S

scum needs to BUS THE FUCK OUT of their team mates to win this ridiculously townsided setup

[Toranaga]

1-9 and titus were voting each other in moments where no one was voting either

don't ever

ever

ever

clear math for pushing titus

math will 100% bus titus here

[Nancy Drew 39]

In any case, im gonna go back to playing MHW, @Math: If you dont have anything to hide, use precog today.

Yeah, I want to know what we’re up against D6. I hope he doesn’t keep us waiting too much longer. But yeah, if he doesn’t do that, something’s definitely up with that.

[Nancy Drew 39]

math was leader and has like 3 different powers

if we're all thinking he might be scum let's end him today

That is true, but if we force him to use precog he cant use any powers during the night.

we just can't lose momentum imo

everyone that could lynch math is dead

there's now you and me

when you die I'm done with this. I'm not even trying.

You also wanted momentum on Kokichi lynch as well, didn’t you? Why the rush? What exactly is the problem with actually trying to build a convincing case on him - one way or another?

when I say momentum, is based off the current playerlist. I'm talking about doing it today. when either me or sakura is dead, no one is touching mathblade. believe me if math is scum and I die, he wins.

Convince me then. We still have time, don’t we?

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: toranaga
if you flip town math should die
regardless tora your ability to flip-flop on slots is honestly amazing

I agree with the whole flipfloping thing but I still think UFO is probably town here.

[Theta Alpine]

Y E S

scum needs to BUS THE FUCK OUT of their team mates to win this ridiculously townsided setup

well great now that i think about it

VOTE: mathblade

anyone who wants to should read mod is mafia
math did the same thing in that game to titus [titus was previously in a hydra in that slot]

math also used a mechanical advantage in that game [posting votecounts] in order to become an asset to town

[Nancy Drew 39]

there's also no building a convincing case on math. you either see it or you don't. you either believe his hardpushing for giving 3 POE'd down players abilities so they can sui bomb is town!math, or you see the obvious agenda behind it. you either believe he believes GLOBAL ROLEBLOCKING is an ability scum has and an argument against my first multiple vigs plan, or you don't and he is scum to you.

the amount of things mathblade said and pushed for that are unreasonable stances and look agenda driven is in most of math's posting. if he is wolf or town!math doing these things is up to town to determine. I don't think I can possibly read math with any accuracy, but I can absolutely see math being a wolf here and I'll trust sakura's instincts about it, the same way I'm trusting you and her on your feelings about kokichi.

Like Sakura said, if he continues to post precog stuff, I’d rather not risk possibly mislynching in the town core - not when they’re are sketchier players who we can’t keep in check, like Math with precog. If I see a compelling case that explains some things to me that I have a hard time finding scum motivation in, I’d have no problem killing that slot.

See, I also don’t think worst is scum either because of the bomb thing. My only and rather strong issue with Math is how strongly he pushed it but most everything else he’s done looks kind of townie to me. I dunno, I wish someone would make a thoroughly compelling case one way or the other, so I could figure out what to do. Until that happens, there are other people I’d rather flip first.

[Creature]

gotta go

I have physics competition tomorrow

[Nancy Drew 39]

Y E S

scum needs to BUS THE FUCK OUT of their team mates to win this ridiculously townsided setup

well great now that i think about it

VOTE: mathblade

anyone who wants to should read mod is mafia
math did the same thing in that game to titus [titus was previously in a hydra in that slot]

math also used a mechanical advantage in that game [posting votecounts] in order to become an asset to town

So he hardbussed Titus in that game?

Well, that’s obviously not a towntell then. *sigh* I really want to see how Math responds to this wagon on him. I think that will be definitely telling - one way or the other.

[Toranaga]

nancy I can't convince you of things

[the worst]

Nancy is a force of nature

[the worst]

Nancy<3

[Toranaga]

and yes mathblade bussed titus in a very extreme fashion in mod is mafia

it was the kind of thing I always assume that player is basically spewed town if his read is right

turns out it was a bus

[Nero Cain]

I'm not sold. I rather lynch Tor or Drixx before Math or we could ya know-stick to the plan and lynch POE slots.

[Toranaga]

lynching me would be hilarious

[Nero Cain]

idk man, your "creature is obv town b/c he had a pretty useless burst of activity" is kinda You are either scum that's coaching Creature or yu are getting fooled HARD.

[Nero Cain]

easier to look town by mechanicspamming than scumhunting lmao

you know who also did this? Sando AND Sando was also pushed like Ranger in Street Fighter (though Nos disagrees)

[the worst]

Yeah I jumped on Sando d2 for it to get readable content and he townspewed reasonably hard. Trodden ground my dude.

[Nero Cain]

but I mean, I said I'd go along with the HIVE MIND so if even if it was decided to not lynch Creature then its fine. Why not Hebi or Gamma?

[Toranaga]

hebi or gamma aren't bad lynches