Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[the worst]

oh gawd this town just put even more pants on its head

[Toranaga]

It was already claimed earlier. Someone echoed me onto him.

Yeah I know, but who? I think Nancy claimed it? Which would mean Nancy didn't petrify, or Scum3 echo'd while Nancy petrified.

kokichi did it, that's why I'm not dead

MATHBLADE petrified. you know, the guy that fucking has petrify?

[Drixx]

you're all horrible

except for whoever is scum other than mathblade

I didn't see you even engaging with the logic that clears Math. I'll wait.

math is scum

I'm not gonna drag myself to argue against a logic that says every scum was in the pool that was supposed to vote nero, and then voted math instead and outed themselves

you're awful and I don't care about arguing against horrible logic. math is obviously always scum, of course, but you idiots are clearing him for absolutely appalling reasoning.

anyway ok, bye

If the people who were supposed to vote for Nero voted for Nero, there aren't enough scum to make Math scum. If math is scum, then scum have only two votes to work with.

Votes for Nero: {Ausuka, Sakura, Gamma, YOU}

If Math is scum, only two of those could have voted Math ... and Math would LOSE a 2-2 tie with Nero, per the leader voting rules.

The only way Math can get elected leader is with 3 votes. The only way that 3 votes can beat Nero is if at least 2 came from that set of four.

If you have even a basic couple hours of lecture time with logic, you should be able to interact with this. Point out the flaw.

You called the logic "horrible".

So ... where's the problem? Primary premise? Subordinate premise? Conclusion? Is the logic invalid or is it valid but not sound?

If you CAN'T answer those questions, you have no business calling anyone else "idiots".

[Sando]

It was already claimed earlier. Someone echoed me onto him.

Yeah I know, but who? I think Nancy claimed it? Which would mean Nancy didn't petrify, or Scum3 echo'd while Nancy petrified.

kokichi did it, that's why I'm not dead

MATHBLADE petrified. you know, the guy that fucking has petrify?

So you can still bomb?

You're definitely doing that today then.

[Toranaga]

it's horrible because you're suggesting that all scum voted for a town leader and outed themselves doing so drixx

you're absolutely appalling. the part of your brain that was supposed to go "hey wait a minute, that doesn't really make sense now does it?" doesn't function

scum would never pile onto a town vote and out themselves

[Toranaga]

I just did bomb, yes? I bombed theta if you didn't notice

I didn't bomb nancy cause I think she is protected and if she is not I want her to unpetrify sakura cause I think sakura is town

[Drixx]

@Drixx help me do a KPN? I need to plot some shit out.

I already pointed it out earlier. Worst case (given what we know) is a kill plus echoed petrify.

We're now at 11 which makes it 8v3

If we mislynch it's 7v3

A kill plus 2 petrifies would put us into LYLO and we would have to nail the scum with petrify.

[Nancy Drew 39]

You’re forgetting that I picked an actual power that helps town, which is good, since I am the only one left who still has it.

I DGAF about that, I actually want to help town win.

Prove it.

Sure as soon as 6 people tell me to.

[Sando]

I just did bomb, yes? I bombed theta if you didn't notice

I didn't bomb nancy cause I think she is protected and if she is not I want her to unpetrify sakura cause I think sakura is town

I did, I misread your "Kokichi did it" as bombing, not echoing.

[Toranaga]

You’re forgetting that I picked an actual power that helps town, which is good, since I am the only one left who still has it.

I DGAF about that, I actually want to help town win.

Prove it.

Sure as soon as 6 people tell me to.

WHAT?

JUST FUCKING DO IT

[Drixx]

it's horrible because you're suggesting that all scum voted for a town leader and outed themselves doing so drixx

you're absolutely appalling. the part of your brain that was supposed to go "hey wait a minute, that doesn't really make sense now does it?" doesn't function

scum would never pile onto a town vote and out themselves

The very fact that you are refusing to acknowledge the plain facts of the numbers because you don't believe scum would do something is why you don't belong namecalling anyone.

Interact with the logic. My first instinct when the day started was that Math was scum. At this point, the only way math can be scum is if:

1.) Town players literally game threw (would have to be you refusing to admit you didn't vote nero and/or some combination of Ausuka and Sakura going off plan).

2.) Scum have some hidden ability which allowed them to override the leader vote in some fashion.


You refuse to respond to the logic, so I'm going to assume you can find no problems with it. That means you are choosing to believe something we have no evidence for to justify a read you have flip/flopped on for quite awhile. That's irrational.

[Toranaga]

you just threw the game by not voting nero AS WE SAID A MILLION TIMES yesterday and now you dare, you fucking dare to fucking stall on this

unpetrify sakura please

[MathBlade]

@Drixx help me do a KPN? I need to plot some shit out.

I already pointed it out earlier. Worst case (given what we know) is a kill plus echoed petrify.

We're now at 11 which makes it 8v3

If we mislynch it's 7v3

A kill plus 2 petrifies would put us into LYLO and we would have to nail the scum with petrify.

You didn’t do one if Sakura is scum?
What is it like if Sakura is scum and Nancy doesn’t heal and I petrify or kill her instead?

I am thinking lynch Tor I petrify Nancy here and she doesn’t heal so we just win?

Assuming it is Tor/Nancy/Sakura. If not then it is just Gamma yeah?

I am kinda not wanting Nancy to heal I think?

[Sando]

it's horrible because you're suggesting that all scum voted for a town leader and outed themselves doing so drixx

you're absolutely appalling. the part of your brain that was supposed to go "hey wait a minute, that doesn't really make sense now does it?" doesn't function

scum would never pile onto a town vote and out themselves

The very fact that you are refusing to acknowledge the plain facts of the numbers because you don't believe scum would do something is why you don't belong namecalling anyone.

Interact with the logic. My first instinct when the day started was that Math was scum. At this point, the only way math can be scum is if:

1.) Town players literally game threw (would have to be you refusing to admit you didn't vote nero and/or some combination of Ausuka and Sakura going off plan).

2.) Scum have some hidden ability which allowed them to override the leader vote in some fashion.


You refuse to respond to the logic, so I'm going to assume you can find no problems with it. That means you are choosing to believe something we have no evidence for to justify a read you have flip/flopped on for quite awhile. That's irrational.

Tora also conveniently ignores that the only reason we revealed 2 scum is because Gamma claimed to vote Nero when he wasn't supposed to.

[Nancy Drew 39]

You’re forgetting that I picked an actual power that helps town, which is good, since I am the only one left who still has it.

I DGAF about that, I actually want to help town win.

Prove it.

Sure as soon as 6 people tell me to.

And I I also get double doc.

But if 6 are willing to risk it, I’ll do it, anyway and hope scum doesn’t kil me tonight, since I have no protection because I echo doced Math last night, instead of protecting myself with bp.

[MathBlade]

@Drixx help me do a KPN? I need to plot some shit out.

I already pointed it out earlier. Worst case (given what we know) is a kill plus echoed petrify.

We're now at 11 which makes it 8v3

If we mislynch it's 7v3

A kill plus 2 petrifies would put us into LYLO and we would have to nail the scum with petrify.

You didn’t do one if Sakura is scum?
What is it like if Sakura is scum and Nancy doesn’t heal and I petrify or kill her instead?

I am thinking lynch Tor I petrify Nancy here and she doesn’t heal so we just win?

Assuming it is Tor/Nancy/Sakura. If not then it is just Gamma yeah?

I am kinda not wanting Nancy to heal I think?

Sanity check me please Drixx?

[Sando]

There's nothing to stop scum petrifying Sakura tonight anyway, other than negate which also stops heal. This whole line of discussion is just so fucking asinine.

[the worst]

You’re forgetting that I picked an actual power that helps town, which is good, since I am the only one left who still has it.

I DGAF about that, I actually want to help town win.

Prove it.

Sure as soon as 6 people tell me to.

Prove it 100%.

[Sando]

There's nothing to stop scum petrifying

Sakura

tonight anyway, other than negate which also stops heal. This whole line of discussion is just so fucking asinine.

Edit: nothing to stop them petrifying NANCY*

[Toranaga]

it's horrible because you're suggesting that all scum voted for a town leader and outed themselves doing so drixx

you're absolutely appalling. the part of your brain that was supposed to go "hey wait a minute, that doesn't really make sense now does it?" doesn't function

scum would never pile onto a town vote and out themselves

The very fact that you are refusing to acknowledge the plain facts of the numbers because you don't believe scum would do something is why you don't belong namecalling anyone.

Interact with the logic. My first instinct when the day started was that Math was scum. At this point, the only way math can be scum is if:

1.) Town players literally game threw (would have to be you refusing to admit you didn't vote nero and/or some combination of Ausuka and Sakura going off plan).

2.) Scum have some hidden ability which allowed them to override the leader vote in some fashion.


You refuse to respond to the logic, so I'm going to assume you can find no problems with it. That means you are choosing to believe something we have no evidence for to justify a read you have flip/flopped on for quite awhile. That's irrational.

no, you're irrational. that's brainless crap. we simply do not know what happened at night. what I know is that I voted for nero cain and that math knew he was going to win anyway yesterday because he gave us half the precog powers wrong. which is something you're not even interacting with anyway, you just explain away that math has 3 wrong ass powers yesterday as... what? maybe scum has blablabla abilities, which I can say the exact same thing about why mathblade is leader and we're left with nothing to go with

math sounds like scum, that's why he is scum. I flip flopped on it but I was the only one adamant about it and imo math absolutely outed himself last gameday, which sure you can't see it, you think town!math was voted by a pool of scum in the towncore and you caught them LOL

so yeah I'm not gonna do this. I just can't scream for days just to win a shitty mafia game. I didn't lynch math, so I lose, and that's it really.

[Nero Cain]

Sando is my dark horse pick for 3rd scum. Him wanting Tora to bomb Sakura made me

[Toranaga]

@Drixx help me do a KPN? I need to plot some shit out.

I already pointed it out earlier. Worst case (given what we know) is a kill plus echoed petrify.

We're now at 11 which makes it 8v3

If we mislynch it's 7v3

A kill plus 2 petrifies would put us into LYLO and we would have to nail the scum with petrify.

You didn’t do one if Sakura is scum?
What is it like if Sakura is scum and Nancy doesn’t heal and I petrify or kill her instead?

I am thinking lynch Tor I petrify Nancy here and she doesn’t heal so we just win?

Assuming it is Tor/Nancy/Sakura. If not then it is just Gamma yeah?

I am kinda not wanting Nancy to heal I think?

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[the worst]

Sando's read shift on Tora here is creepeh

[Toranaga]

Sando is my dark horse pick for 3rd scum. Him wanting Tora to bomb Sakura made me

yes its me/nancy/sando and mathblade is town

[Toranaga]

math why are today's powers not matching what you said they were?