Mini Normal 2024 - Endgame

[PenguinPower]

VOTE COUNT 2.3

BlueBloodedToffee (3) - DrDolittle, Krazy, Alchemist21
northsidegal (2) - HeWhoSwims, ejjinami
DrDolittle (1) - BlueBloodedToffee
Rei (1) - Scioness Sajj
HeWhoSwims (1) - Nauci
Tchill13 (0) -
Scioness Sajj (0) - Creature
Creature (0) -
Alchemist21 (0) -
Nauci (0) -
ejjinami (0) -

Not Voting: northsidegal, Rei

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is Saturday, September 1st at 12:00 pm PDT which is in

(expired on 2018-09-01 12:00:00)

MOD NOTES:
Krazy replaces Tchill13
HeWhoSwims replaces Mumble

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks for stepping in Penguin!

[Krazy]

nb4 tchill is replaced by Krazy

[Alchemist21]

I’m being surprised by a lot of replacements in this game.

And why isn’t NSG being replaced?

Who even put in the Mumble replacement request? Because I don’t see it in the replacement thread.

[Alchemist21]

Anyway hello to all the new people!

[PenguinPower]

Prodding northsidegal

[HeWhoSwims]

Oh hey I didn't saw Penguin's post and have been waiting to post for like 20 minutes

Anyway! I already sent Jackal a PM to replace Tchill but Krazy was earlier to message PP therefore he replaces Tchill (I guess) and I agreed with PP to replace Mumble.

I wrote my thoughts down on the go while reading up on the game, but did this while thinking I was replacing Tchill so there's nothing on him in there. Gotta do that later, however, while reading up there was nothing that made me go "I'm almost ashamed to [possibly] replace this slot".

I took out my comments on Mumble for clearness' sake but I was slightly leaning scum if it matters.

[Krazy]

Anyway, tomorrow and Saturday my island is getting hit by a category 4 so hopefully the power stays on during that time, but I do have an ongoing site-wide

V/LA through Sunday

. But that V/LA is only in place in case my power goes out, and I will be posting regularly assuming it is on. "It's not like I'm going outside"

In the mean time,

Confirm vote: BBT

I actually asked to replace in for this slot on Saturday and so while I haven't closely read the thread (having no idea what was taking jackal so long) I do not currently have a better FoS than BBT.

Rei was in my lynchpool back on like Monday. I don't like the unvote in the early game. But BBT seems fine for now.

How are you all doing anyway? 'course the weather here is actually currently fine. Ya o man, I thought the rain was going to come in last night. Glad it didn't, Subway should still be open for lunch.

Spoiler:

1234. Right now it's at 4, so it's hitting the big island, but the question is how sharply it turns left when it's around 1 and 2.

[Krazy]

Anyway! I already sent Jackal a PM to replace Tchill but Krazy was earlier to message PP therefore he replaces Tchill (I guess) and I agreed with PP to replace Mumble.

REKT

My /in to Jackal was Sunday when was yours? LOL

[Alchemist21]

Stay safe out there!

Do you guys even have evacuation routes in Hawaii?

[Krazy]

LOL NOPE

[Alchemist21]

RIP

[HeWhoSwims]

Anyway! I already sent Jackal a PM to replace Tchill but Krazy was earlier to message PP therefore he replaces Tchill (I guess) and I agreed with PP to replace Mumble.

REKT

My /in to Jackal was Sunday when was yours? LOL

Monday, so you'd have been earlier anyway

[HeWhoSwims]

Spoiler: Pages 1-10

Criticism against TWAIN pg 3 is wacky to me. (Irrel/DrD)

I like early Ejji -> reads are clear and with good reason I feel

I like Nauci and I feel her warning about Irrelephant is townie here - I don’t see what scum!Nauci gains from it. If he’s town, Scumci gets heat for potentially starting a consensus scumread/wariness of Irrelephant by outing this info. If they’re scumbuddies and Irrelephant flips scum it makes sense but it’s too early in the game / my read up at this point to assume both as 2 of the 3 scum (I assume). Poke me about this though if either flips scum.

Similarly Rei seems good at this point, not afraid to cast opinions early on and pressure nsg who can pretty much be a town here if she is town (I feel)

Love Ejji making 6-7 posts in a row then being “Yo I’ll post more later I don’t have time ” Townread continues. It is really wobbly but to me he sounds like he’s flying around the entire game asking and reading without any intent which scum would/could do.

I like Irrel and his page 9 reads for now.

213 by Twain reads like he’s developed next to 0 reads over 135 posts which is wacky.
Re: lynchbait. I do believe these players should never be left alive “because they’re lynchbait” when they do something scummy. Sure we shouldn’t lynch them right away but a scummy action on their part should weigh the same as a scummy action by someone who isn’t qualified as lynchbait.

Rei: what are your thoughts on people reading you as town and their reasons?

What is the benefit for a random town player to ask this Nauci?

>Lalendra

Twain is town for this alone
But for real I like these reads - they make sense - and they have good or okay explanation. I’d disagree with Irrelephant though. Big town points.

Hhhmmm Irrelephant wins this small 1v1 with Lalendra on page 10 imo.

Spoiler: Pages 11-20

Nauci’s thread presence and commenting at this point is enough to put her above like half the playerlist and keep her around. Townleaning.

256 is eeeeeh. I do townread Irrelephant but then again I don’t see scum trying to attack Irrel here? Thoughts? Nauci why did you vote this?

I think Rei comes out of Tchill’s reaction test pretty okay looking.

Page 11 BBT has a lot of words but less reads. Interestingly enough he calls Nauci out for this. Barely solid reads by Lal also.

Townreading Alchemist makes my gut feel bad BUT it seems he’s not afraid to throw out any opinion or thought it seems.

- I don’t even know why I’m commenting on Irrelephant - just saw he was already flipped - sorry.

BBT continues to post and judge but not post sufficient reads…

I don't generally do reads, especially on day one. You can go and review a lot of my other games that I've played on here and you'll see that I don't do reads often. I prefer to play the game by using conversations with people that gives me reads that I generally keep to myself.

Hmmmmm yeah I can live with this lynch.

Rei’s page 15 is excellent so that townread is growing.

Yay, reads by BBT on page 17… Without any direct support/explanation. No gusta.

Lol so
if then


Why is flip flopping scummy, again?

That’s a great point. A lil’ more suspicious of Doc.

Scumslip? If you knew your role PM was green you'd have at least SOME basis for that statement. Also really not feeling that progression on Kop, or the hard press on the lurkers.

VOTE: Tchill

Okay but are we really going to using this as defense (no matter the slot)? Where’s the line between clumsy town and a scumslip?

Spoiler: Pages 21-30

*mental note of Ejji asking more questions but putting forward fewer real reads*

I wouldn’t call myself bad at meta but it seems a good call to keep an eye out for nsg when inactive.

Rei’s reads are lining up with mine mostly, solid townread yada yada.

Creature is okay to more than okay and I’m willing to give a major benefit of the doubt here due to Twain. Also his posts are short so it’s easier for me to catch up. Double credit!

I’m very much not a fan of the critique of Irrel by the Doc - I might want to re read this later. I can’t make my mind up on Doc.

Don't forget guys that DDL is prob scum.

Kop/DDL are scum. Unsure on the last one.

Yeah okayyyyy this post and the next few by BBT are trash. Sorry not sorry - where is the reasoning? Any leeway for you to see the opinions of others? Or new town/scumreads?

I can see the doubts about the doc. It’s mostly thought that he isn’t giving me town vibes.

Spoiler: The rest

VOTE: alchemist

I think it's off Bbt didn't open up with a push on me

Irrelephant was an easy nk for scum. I think only one person was worried about him being scum.

Why do you think I would make the push I did on Irrelephant as scum?

To get yourself towncred/less likely to be scumread after his death, like it seems you’re trying to do now?

BBT’s posting continues to be way less than excellent.

Finished page 35 and Scioness has done nothing to convince me she’s town - even when posting, it’s about non relevant things and I really really miss reads or solid thoughts so to say.

Scioness’ reads… Everything is either soft, or gut, or barely explained, quite some that feels like fence sitting.

Just throwing that out there for now. Go wild, comment, ask away etc.

If you want a 5 tier reads list right now I'd say

[Creature, Nauci, Rei]
[Tchill?]
[Alch, ejji, nsg]
[Doc]
[BBT, Sci]

[Krazy]

Why is NSG in the middle? I'd have her near the bottom personally.

'Concerned' Slots:
Rei [unvote isn't enough for me today, I might revisit later]
Mumble slot (now HWS) [Mumble slot is always good lynch, you heard it here first, HWS gets no credit for his active posting since that was probably written before he had a role PM ]
Lalendra slot (now SS) [Lalendra was a bit scummy but SS has done a good job trying to clean it up]

Lynchpool of something like:
[BBT general scumminess, NSG lurking/active lurking]

[HeWhoSwims]

It's mostly that the other 3 bothered me enough more than her to put her a tier above that. But looking back now the inactivity is worse than I thought (I didn't notice that while catching up, that happened over 36 hours). And I'm just semi hoping she towns up since she can be pretty good as town yo.

Yes this catchup was written before I had a role PM.

[Alchemist21]

@HeWhoSwims, Thoughts on a possible BBT/DDL scumteam?

[Krazy]

Can you expand on read of DrD? You have him in bottom 3 but you said little about him in your spoilered comments.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Interesting that every (?) replacement is scum reading me. If you're town, you need to evaluate the game-state and realise what is happening.

I'm being pushed for a reason. Ask yourself, why?

[Krazy]

LALENDRA though. Now I just don't get it, why is she always so lurky? I don't get it, and then SS comes and seems kinda like she's on active cleanup.

[HeWhoSwims]

The short version is that there are many comments, but little reads or progression from that. Satisfying?

@Alch - I'm yet to do any VCA or joint ISO reading. Separately, yeah, sure they can be a scumteam (with a 3rd I think of course). I'd be fine lynching either I think (not now as we have a day ahead of us). If you were planning to ask me about their interactions, I'mma have to ask you to be patient for a little bit.

[Krazy]

Interesting that every (?) replacement is scum reading me. If you're town, you need to evaluate the game-state and realise what is happening.

I'm being pushed for a reason. Ask yourself, why?

Maybe it's because you use a lot of AtE and generally questionable reasoning to push your reads. Like you could be town, it could be a playstyle thing, but you don't give a very towny first impression dude. Have you iso'd yourself? Would you think you were town?

[HeWhoSwims]

Exactly that, a lot of what feels like AtE

Besides "I'm being pushed for a reason" can be said by anyone. For me, it's because you're behaving scummy

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What about my play is scummy and where is the AtE?

Also, why is AtE scummy? And why are you acting like AtE is exclusively a scum trait?

[HeWhoSwims]

Interesting that every (?) replacement is scum reading me. If you're town, you need to evaluate the game-state and realise what is happening.

I'm being pushed for a reason. Ask yourself, why?

Looks like I'm going to have to effort this game seems as people don't seem to want to lynch scum.

Basically it either reads as weak defense or a tad LAMIST: Oh no, poor me! I'm just a townie but everything is against me!

Don't see how it's townie.

I've detailed what I didnt like about your play I feel.