Miccro 821: Welcome Micc Mafia! (D1)

[MafMen]

like maf could quickhammer and claim it was an accident or something

Also, what do you make of the fact that everyone has posted while you have been at L-1 now and that didn't happen?

that scum dont want to take the heat incase people didnt believe them?

Usually the reason it doesn't happen. That, or the wagon is scum.

Care to answer my other questions?

others?

[MafMen]

Thoughts on Inferno then?

i mean i havent formed an opinion yet, im not going to townread him because he unvoted me, scum or town could do that

[PenguinPower]

He never voted you. He unvoted me.

[MafMen]

He never voted you. He unvoted me.

what i thought he-
wow ok

[MafMen]

oh it was 2 who voted me

calls you out on putting me to l-1 but doesnt unvote his joke vote

quality

[PenguinPower]

Absent you voting me without understanding the votecount (hey! remember when you were worried about the derphammer on you...that's how they happen)...

So, specifically, your thoughts on:

I really don’t have a response for you @Penguin because a) I wasn’t completely serious with that read and 2) someone else implied what I accused you of, and I just mentally linked it with you

p-edit

So, why did you townread him to begin with?

[MafMen]

Absent you voting me without understanding the votecount (hey! remember when you were worried about the derphammer on you...that's how they happen)...

So, specifically, your thoughts on:

I really don’t have a response for you @Penguin because a) I wasn’t completely serious with that read and 2) someone else implied what I accused you of, and I just mentally linked it with you

p-edit

So, why did you townread him to begin with?

it was

because

he called out the l-1 thing

but now i realise it was his vote on me not inferno so honestly im flipping it as a scumread.

can you give more context on the quote?

[PenguinPower]

I mean, we're 4 pages in...but...sure.

Spoiler: Context

Since discussion needs to happen:

Your PM.
Should have a player name in it.
That is your alt.
I am quadz08.
Penguin is Kison.
Who are you?

Um...no. I thought we were just joking. Why would you claim your Role Pm?

So far it's looking like ListMod name is NAI though. That's good.

Scum.
Why would flavor ever be AI? And what is so wrong with claiming it?
VOTE: Penguin

1. No.
2. Because you saying that divulging meaningless flavor is scummy is an inherently scummy statement.
3. Yes.

2. Because you saying that divulging meaningless flavor is scummy is an inherently scummy statement.

Where did I say this?

I feel kind of stupid now
But discussion is happening so
I really don’t have a response for you

@Penguin

because a) I wasn’t completely serious with that read and 2) someone else implied what I accused you of, and I just mentally linked it with you
Sorry
UNVOTE:

Will get to this later, I’m going to see Christopher Robin

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Uh, when I "called Penguin out" on the L-1, I never meant to imply that I

disagreed

with it, but more that I wanted to

emphasize

the reality of it.
This is not inconsistent with me not removing the vote.

[Inferno390]

Here Penguin
This is the shading I’m talking about
I find it ironic that you actually quoted this and yet still couldn’t find it

Do you mean that bill shaded your actions? Because it came across as you were saying someone else implied that what I did was scummy, not that someone else was implying what you did was scummy.

I get the latter from bill's post.

Yes, this is what I meant.
Can we all take a minute to appreciate how bad I am at this game?

[PenguinPower]

Can we all take a minute to appreciate how bad I am at this game?

You did fine in your Newbies. I'm not liking the appeal here.

Thoughts on MafMen?

[Inferno390]

I need to sit down and read your exchange with him. Hopefully will get to that tonight.

[PenguinPower]

Fair. Hope the movie was good.

Talk tomorrow.

[horrordude0215]

I feel kind of stupid now
But discussion is happening so
I really don’t have a response for you

@Penguin

because a) I wasn’t completely serious with that read and 2) someone else implied what I accused you of, and I just mentally linked it with you
Sorry
UNVOTE:

"Wasn't completely serious" seems pretty contradictory with your tone when you voted for him.

Since discussion needs to happen:

Um...no. I thought we were just joking. Why would you claim your Role Pm?

So far it's looking like ListMod name is NAI though. That's good.

Scum.
Why would flavor ever be AI? And what is so wrong with claiming it?
VOTE: Penguin

Putting "Scum." in its own line with a period before following up with further reasoning seems pretty serious to me.

Bonus fun (and for my reference later), here's Penguin's questions with inferno's answers.

You've never played a game where flavor could have an impact in terms of assessing a role or alignment? Really?

1. No

How does my thinking that flavor could impact the above make me scum?

2. Because you saying that divulging meaningless flavor is scummy is an inherently scummy statement.

I fail the see the benefit of listing which mod we are, other than for scummy rolefishing purposes.

This must be my scum buddy, right Inferno?

3. Yes.

These posts read as a genuine push,and 63 seems like a bit of a backtrack imo.

VOTE: inferno

[Inferno390]

Okay Penguin
So far I find that MafMen feels very waffly and does not seem to have very good answers to your questions. I would also say that the tone of his posts comes from scum, but that’s just me.

Either way, I would probably sort this into the scum pile.
VOTE: MafMen

[Inferno390]

Oh I nearly had a heart attack
I thought I hammered MafMen there
I’ve got to pay more attention to vcs.
UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

Thoughts on what horrordude said about you? Because, those were my initial thoughts as well.

UNVOTE:

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I am lost...

Unofficial vote count.
MafMen (1): 2 718281828459
Inferno (2): bill1148, horrordude0215
PenguinPower (1): Alonzo

Not Voting: all others

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For the record, at this point while I do have a slight scum lean on Inferno, I am not willing to vote there. Or really anyone else at this time.
UNVOTE:

(Is anyone here paranoid that any lynch or night action could result in something ridiculous and unexpected happening? Like a "boomerang" or "2x forced vengeful" ability? I hope not, because I know better than to waste my time worrying about such things.)

Ugh... early day 1 is so hard. Can I just like hibernate until we get into the later day 1?

[horrordude0215]

For the record, at this point while I do have a slight scum lean on Inferno, I am not willing to vote there. Or really anyone else at this time.
UNVOTE:

(Is anyone here paranoid that any lynch or night action could result in something ridiculous and unexpected happening? Like a "boomerang" or "2x forced vengeful" ability? I hope not, because I know better than to waste my time worrying about such things.)

*sigh*

Description:

This will be pretty normal, might be balanced, and should be simple. Welcome to Micc as Listmod! =D

This post is all kinds of bad. Really bad and unnecessary setup spec, waffling on vote placement, etc., yet I'm reading it as noob rather than scum rn.

That being said,

Ugh... early day 1 is so hard. Can I just like hibernate until we get into the later day 1?

No.

[Aristophanes]

A VC will come after work today. All you need do is ask

[schadd_]

VC 1.2

Inferno390

(2): bill1148 52, horrordude0215 88

PenguinPower

(1): Alonzo 55

Not Voting

(4): MafMen, Inferno390 90, PenguinPower 91, 2 718281828459 93

Day 1 will end September 4/18 at 10am (in (expired on 2018-09-04 10:00:00)) or when a majority is reached.
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Alonzo is VLA

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Actually, instead of just saying day 1 is "so hard", I should actually give it a try. P-Edit: Here you go.

Code: Select all

         Neutral
       ___________
Scum  /  3  4  5  \  Town
Lean / 2         6 \ Lean
    /           /   \
   / 1         /   7 \
   |          /      |
Scum 0       /     8 Town
   ---------O---------

(the 6 is not related to anything in particular)

• Alonzo: We kind of have to excuse the low-quality posts etc due to life circumstances. Although, he did do 2 RVS votes...
  NA
• bill: Also sort of left, and has made 2 posts that are game-advancing (42 and 58). Lurking is anti-town, but not scummy.
  3.5
• horrordude: I like the way that they build an argument for voting Inferno even though I am not ready to vote there myself. The methods that they used are pro-town.
  5
• Inferno: "Scum." is just too abrasive. And then you say you were not serious. Then you vote, and then take it back because you "almost" hammered. If you had not hammered, why take the vote away?
  2.5
  for now.
• MafMen: Rebutting the RVS vote is a little silly, but why say I am a town read and then suddenly reply that it makes no sense? And why is it scummy to point out in a factual way that someone is at L-1? Even with all this, it could be completely innocent, so
  4
  is my read here.
• PenguinPower: Hey, did you know someone
  almost
  accihammered? The posts have several fallacies but I cannot find anything really
  scummy
  here.
  4

[PenguinPower]

PenguinPower: Hey, did you know someone almost accihammered? The posts have several fallacies but I cannot find anything really scummy here. 4

They didn't almost "accihammered" if you think they are scum. Given your read on Inferno, that seems to be the case.

Also, feel free to point out any fallacies in my posts instead of making a sweeping statement. Hard to respond to those, and I don't think that I have made any fallacious statements.

[horrordude0215]

Spoiler:

Ok gang. Mrs Alonzo is in the hospital RN bringing forth Spawn of Alonzo. Not sure how this is going to effect things gamewise, but your patience is appreciated.

Alonzo

Congrats.

unvote
Vote Inferno

The timing of this seems strange to me. Did you only switch your vote because of Alonzo going V/LA? Why switch to inferno with no reasoning given? What prompted you to vote for him in this post instead of the 4 posts you made on the bottom of page 2, especially when he hadn't posted anything inbetween?