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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:00 am

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Oops I meant to write "@RC has your read of Flavor changed at all?"
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:05 am

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I mean if TW/FL is the scumteam they have to do something

Not rly but then mutants posting was horrible so maybe I was wrong on 1/2 of fl tw
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:07 am

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Perhaps the change of votes was hasty or I'll advised or whatever but mutants last page was a complete Trainwreck and tw/mutant particularly is starting to have solid equity
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:08 am

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Ftr if this was scum theatre I'd fully intend to Lynch flavor leaf
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:11 am

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Dunno dude. I know you're going to scumread me for it but I think it's at least possible that flavor leaf is town who believes in his gemini read and I think it's easier to solve the game around him and if he's scum I'll know that the tells that I'm using work
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:13 am

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Assuming you're town its just 2/3 of tw FL mutant
I'm looking for a more concrete reason to write off 1 pairing
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 am

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Nah I'll have more paranoia flashes than I otherwise would prolly but if you're scum I'll just be mad at either schadd for bad setup or whoever's role would be effectively a cc to you for not cc'ing. Until a pr claim happens that changes my idea of the setup you're just town

esp. because I'm also flip flopping on FL
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:42 am

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If you think mutant is scum you think he faked not knowing Prof was watcher
possible intentional "townslip" but it felt genuine at the time
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:42 am

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In post 1467, RadiantCowbells wrote:You realize the watcher would watch the watcher enabler right
Not necessarily. I wouldn't. Why would the mafia use someone they just claimed didn't have any night abilities to perform the kill? There's nothing you could do if they were caught doing it. In my opinion, I think prof fridays would be more likely to watch someone they scum read. Besides, since this game doesn't show role cards, for all we know prof could have known there was an enabler to his role.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:51 am

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In post 1469, RadiantCowbells wrote:He hard defended the mislynch and that generally makes you eat bullets

If scum shoot me they're giving away a member, idk why you would expect them to
Your first statement may be true, but that doesn't take away from the fact you are also a good kill candidate - is that not what you were saying earlier? I recall you mentioning you expect to 'absorb' a nightkill. There are also reasons to have kept prof alive too. Wifom is something that gets put forth as an argument and being right or wrong on a mislynch/scum flip is probably the most frequent case I've seen it used.

How would killing you give away a member? It wouldn't 'give away' anything. Sure, it may be used as evidence towards some people rather than others. But it certainly isn't enough on its own. Not everyone views the game as black and white as you do.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 1476, RadiantCowbells wrote:Not rly but then mutants posting was horrible so maybe I was wrong on 1/2 of fl tw
And by "horrible" you mean they criticise you so you don't like them?
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 1477, RadiantCowbells wrote:Perhaps the change of votes was hasty or I'll advised or whatever but mutants last page was a complete Trainwreck and tw/mutant particularly is starting to have solid equity
You do have a tendency to change your vote a lot. As a result, in its current state, it is essentially meaningless to me.

What about myself and the worst being a scum team is getting more equity? As far as I can tell, the only thing that's happened to make you form this opinion is that I have
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to criticise you. And if that's the only thing that's made you change your mind on this then you really should have been pushing myself and the worst as a scum time a long time ago.


Like seriously, all I've done is posted what has gone on in my head in regards to you - because for the first time in this game I've actually started considering your alignment - and this is how you respond? Do you really have such a high opinion of yourself that you instantly scum read anyone who even considers for a second that you could be scum? It's honestly pathetic.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:08 pm

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In post 1433, Irrelephant11 wrote:Retract RC/FL scumteam I just find it odd they're fighting so hard and not voting for each other
But the RC claim makes me townread him
they do this every time regardless of alignment, don't read too much into the associatives of it. that's a bullshit reason to townread someone who's competent scum btw
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:11 pm

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mutant you only sound enthusiastic when fighting your own lynch this game

discuss?
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:20 pm

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In post 1488, the worst wrote:mutant you only sound enthusiastic when fighting your own lynch this game

discuss?
- I'm not being lynched.
- I always respond to things that directly concern me (you know that).
- Tone comes primarily from the way you read my posts rather than the way I present them.
- You're wrong :P
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:21 pm

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In post 1489, mutantdevle wrote:- You're wrong :P
oh I'm wrong about townreading you?
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:13 am

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In post 1437, Flavor Leaf wrote:Back to thinking Irrelephant is the partner. 1435 is reachy.
Can you explain how so? Because actually this feels reachy tbh
In post 1482, Irrelephant11 wrote:If you think mutant is scum you think he faked not knowing Prof was watcher
possible intentional "townslip" but it felt genuine at the time
I agree, what's the scum intent in that? It doesn't really *do anything* for them. I'm still feeling Mutant as town, I like their responses on this latest page.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:15 am

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In post 1483, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 1467, RadiantCowbells wrote:You realize the watcher would watch the watcher enabler right
Not necessarily. I wouldn't. Why would the mafia use someone they just claimed didn't have any night abilities to perform the kill? There's nothing you could do if they were caught doing it. In my opinion, I think prof fridays would be more likely to watch someone they scum read. Besides, since this game doesn't show role cards, for all we know prof could have known there was an enabler to his role.
I don't think you understand the watcher role
The only way to get a guilty as a watcher is to "watch" the nightkill target - your results are then anyone who targeted that player, and if you only get the one name, you get a guilty on that player. If you watch someone on the scumteam, your only results will be other town PRs who happened to also target scum with whatever ability.
i.e. Yes, watcher is very likely to watch the only claimed PR, since that's scum's most likely kill, and therefore the best way to get a guilty
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:17 am

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In post 1487, the worst wrote:
In post 1433, Irrelephant11 wrote:Retract RC/FL scumteam I just find it odd they're fighting so hard and not voting for each other
But the RC claim makes me townread him
they do this every time regardless of alignment, don't read too much into the associatives of it.
that's a bullshit reason to townread someone who's competent scum btw
I mean if you have any examples of RC successfully fake claiming something confirmable that later *just happened* to get confirmed
or alternatively any examples of micros with scum enablers for gated town roles
or your role card that says "rolecop" or something similar that could counteract this strong fakeclaim
Then please do share

Otherwise it doesn't matter how good RC is at scum the claim makes him town
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:39 am

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In post 1477, RadiantCowbells wrote:mutants last page was a complete Trainwreck
explain pls
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:06 am

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In post 1487, the worst wrote:
In post 1433, Irrelephant11 wrote:Retract RC/FL scumteam I just find it odd they're fighting so hard and not voting for each other
But the RC claim makes me townread him
they do this every time regardless of alignment, don't read too much into the associatives of it. that's a bullshit reason to townread someone who's competent scum btw
this is literally the opposite of how that works. anything that I do play wise can be faked and therefore doesn't necessarily make me 100% town
you're treating this role like it's something that I did rather than something that I am.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:07 am

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In post 1461, mutantdevle wrote:FL's got me thinking.

RC claimed watcher enabler. The scum team would know RC had no reason to lie about his role if he was town. They'd also know that killing him would nullify the watcher (which they now know exists). Additionally, RC (from my understanding of his reputation) is a good player.

Why is RC still alive?

They'd have to have had real confidence that prof fridays was the watcher in order to kill him instead of RC.
this post should be a scumclaim
him pretending not to know what a watcher is should be a scumclaim
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:07 am

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if it's not a scumclaim he's not someone I want going anywhere close to lylo anyway.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:29 am

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In post 1496, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1461, mutantdevle wrote:FL's got me thinking.

RC claimed watcher enabler. The scum team would know RC had no reason to lie about his role if he was town. They'd also know that killing him would nullify the watcher (which they now know exists). Additionally, RC (from my understanding of his reputation) is a good player.

Why is RC still alive?

They'd have to have had real confidence that prof fridays was the watcher in order to kill him instead of RC.
this post should be a scumclaim
him pretending not to know what a watcher is should be a scumclaim
What if he just didn't think it through?
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:37 am

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In post 1497, RadiantCowbells wrote:if it's not a scumclaim he's not someone I want going anywhere close to lylo anyway.
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