Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

Ankamius · Post Post #5925 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:13 am

The argument for lynching Nos is bizarre and wolves need him gone to have a shot at winning so ???

MathBlade · Post Post #5926 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:17 am

Lol I am open wolfing for not agreeing with Nos..bullshit. I can’t open wolf I am town.

Ankamius · Post Post #5927 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:26 am

You're openwolfing by pushing a confirmed mafia

Nosferatu · Post Post #5928 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:31 am

In post 5923, glowball wrote:Yeah Nos ... but again why have you chosen Math over Toranga?

He's going to die yo u're just begging people to move along the vote for no reason other than you want it.

Look away. You've voted. Now the rest of us can decide at our leisure.

for reasons I've already said

math is scummy as shit and if there are 4th scum he's it. it's imperative that I kill him because I honestly do not trust the people alive to lynch him. I feel like you guys actually read his posts

Ankamius · Post Post #5929 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:43 am

In post 5927, Ankamius wrote:You're openwolfing by pushing a confirmed mafia

Just going to point out how god damn weird this sentence is

MathBlade · Post Post #5930 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:51 am

In post 5927, Ankamius wrote:You're openwolfing by pushing a confirmed mafia

1) That isn’t necessarily the case. He could be a backup to receive the first killing power and be an SK/survivor role.

2) Even as mafia he is not guaranteed to be town aligned mafia.

I think it is option 2.

MathBlade · Post Post #5931 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:52 am

He is killing me because I am pushing him. Not because he thinks I am scum. He doesn’t

Nosferatu · Post Post #5932 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:28 pm

sure dude

totally not like I announced this long before you even spoke up about thinking I'm scum

Nosferatu · Post Post #5933 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:30 pm

In post 5930, MathBlade wrote:2) Even as mafia he is not guaranteed to be town aligned mafia.

no you don't. you just said that I'm a wolf traitor trying to bus my buddies, despite the fact that I also somehow didn't know Titus was my buddy. you also said that me and Titus talking about me being a vig was a gambit.

Nosferatu · Post Post #5934 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:32 pm

everytime you call me scum you change what you mean by it. you're obviously flailing to protect yourself.

Ankamius · Post Post #5935 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:35 pm

In post 5930, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5927, Ankamius wrote:You're openwolfing by pushing a confirmed mafia
1) That isn’t necessarily the case. He could be a backup to receive the first killing power and be an SK/survivor role.

2) Even as mafia he is not guaranteed to be town aligned mafia.

I think it is option 2.

how does this make any sense

what about Lady Angel's role then

Mafia is confirmed via Lady Angel to have an anti-wolf win condition

this has so many god damn holes I don't know where to start

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5936 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:10 am

In post 5903, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5901, Gamma Emerald wrote:Do you really think two wolf-kills is fair?
Considering town has a JK An Angel A neighborizer A PT cop the lynch mob a roleblocker (Oath) and we have seen 0 evidence except the devour of what scum would have?
If we assume Muffin is scum and a 2 shot seer Titus was a tracker and Tor is the reason for the devour

They have one janitor against all that. Two kills would be almost required.

And before you say “But Math could be the second” mine requires agreement.

Why does the other power wolves have have to be a kill? What about that weird blocking thing? We know Oath was blocked and we haven't seen anything to cause it, what if that's a wolf who's doing that?

MathBlade · Post Post #5937 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:13 am

There is likely no weird blocking thing.

Titus fake claimed.
Oath hits Hebi and is denied because Angel heals Hebi.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5938 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:14 am

In post 5908, MathBlade wrote:Now I know I think MS has SOME balance issues in terms of games but Mastina and Alisae wouldn’t do THAT. There is no way Mastina approves that without something for the wolves. I have to work. We should be lynching Nos. Will check after work.

I mean think about this: THERE'S OTHER KILLS. The extra protection is for THAT.
PEdit: Okay then

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5939 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:15 am

In post 5924, Ankamius wrote:Math is openwolfing though

I think he's just immeasurable dense.

MathBlade · Post Post #5940 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:15 am

And yes against that much power a strongman or a kill is required.

And we haven’t seen anything. Like Nos has to be scum for balance reasons

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5941 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:20 am

You don't understand
there's 3 nightkills in the game: lynch mob, mafia, and wolves. HOW DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU WRT THERE BEING A LOT OF KILL STOPPAGE?

MathBlade · Post Post #5942 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:30 am

In post 5941, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't understand
there's 3 nightkills in the game: lynch mob, mafia, and wolves. HOW DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU WRT THERE BEING A LOT OF KILL STOPPAGE?

Because the lynch mob and mafia would exclusively control both. The wolves from what I have seen have no KPN and no bullet proof protection. I don’t see a way Nos isn’t scum here

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5943 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:54 am

In post 5942, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5941, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't understand
there's 3 nightkills in the game: lynch mob, mafia, and wolves. HOW DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU WRT THERE BEING A LOT OF KILL STOPPAGE?
Because the lynch mob and mafia would exclusively control both. The wolves from what I have seen have no KPN and no bullet proof protection. I don’t see a way Nos isn’t scum here

What?

MathBlade · Post Post #5944 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:12 am

In post 5943, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 5942, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5941, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't understand
there's 3 nightkills in the game: lynch mob, mafia, and wolves. HOW DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU WRT THERE BEING A LOT OF KILL STOPPAGE?
Because the lynch mob and mafia would exclusively control both. The wolves from what I have seen have no KPN and no bullet proof protection. I don’t see a way Nos isn’t scum here
What?

I’m town I am pretty sure you’re town. If we go with the assumption Nos is town then both “extra” kills are in the hands exclusively of town. So therefore they cannot be taken into account as something for the wolves balance wise.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5945 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:16 am

That doesn't matter, there's still 3 nightkills total. As such it makes sense that there's a lot of kill stoppage.

MathBlade · Post Post #5946 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:19 am

In post 5945, Gamma Emerald wrote:That doesn't matter, there's still 3 nightkills total. As such it makes sense that there's a lot of kill stoppage.

Yes it does matter.

Otherwise you get follow the cop here.

There is realistically no kill order for the wolves here that enables them to win.
They easily lose their kill

Town mass claims day one and scum lose.

This setup is not balanced without Nos being scum.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5947 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:36 am

Whatever, I still think you have your head in the clouds here and need to realize it make even less sense with what we've already seen. And don't even think for a second I'm going to be in the mood to kill Nos using the lynch mob kill. I'd rather do nothing than commit that level of screw-up.

Ankamius · Post Post #5948 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:20 am

Scum need to lynch Nosferatu to win, that's why he's pushing it

MathBlade · Post Post #5949 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:47 am

In post 5948, Ankamius wrote:Scum need to lynch Nosferatu to win, that's why he's pushing it

1) I am pushing it because if Nos shoots me town loses especially Oath.
2) Nos is openly scumclaiming by saying he would shoot a claimed Vampire who made it his entire mission to get Oath confirmed.
3) Nos even if Muffin is a wolf which I doubt because of how Nos is pushing it, then shoots me who is town, that is continual lylo

Then Nos can go “look at all the townie shit I have done” what have YOU done?