Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[glowball]

and why are you still here, Ank?

[glowball]

So Night 4 and the wolves kill Vecna and leave a highly townread Ank AND a confirmed vig in Nos...

That doesn't sit well

[Nosferatu]

that was serious. ill shoot tor.

And if you don't?

well there's nothing you can really do about it is there?

[Ankamius]

I looked back at HWS stuff and the closest thing to a crumb I could see was him specifically calling Vecna and myself town, so probably one of us

idk

[Ankamius]

and why are you still here, Ank?

So Night 4 and the wolves kill Vecna and leave a highly townread Ank AND a confirmed vig in Nos...

That doesn't sit well

I'm also really loud and have been pretty wrong for most of the game

so

[Ankamius]

like Titus absolutely never kills me in any night except MAYBE night one... the night she wasn't actually here at all (and RC never kills me LOL)

[Nosferatu]

that was serious. ill shoot tor.

And if you don't?

well there's nothing you can really do about it is there?

id have acted in bad faith and pulled a dick move but you can't reasonably lynch me over that since a win will be right there for you.

[Nosferatu]

maybe you'll pull a dick move and lynch me over a personal gripe idk

you still can't stop me from killing him if the idea comes over me.

[Ankamius]

hmmmmmm

GAMMA: how did the conversation in the lynch mob go last night?

[glowball]

At this point they would have to find you easy to manipulate, not JUST for having bad reads or voting wrong.

My problem here is that Ankamius could be scum. Highly town read scum, but I'm feeling it hard. I did at first with what seemed like buddying. Then I had to ask myself why am I alive. Yesterday I raved about Ank being town- somewhat thoughtfully, meanwhile Vecna made sure to consider that Ank could be scum. I think a scumAnk is okay with leaving a townNos and a townGlow that heavily townread them because there would be no pressure. That makes sense. You were really quick to assert that you were a confirmed non PR when I slipped in my night action claim too and I didn't like it.

[Ankamius]

I'm trying to figure out whether Mathblade in a Math/tora/muffin scumteam game pushes Gamma to lynch Oath's revive or not

I can kind of see him potentially pushing the lynch onto Nosferatu instead (which probably works from flavor via lady angel), but otherwise I think he would have to push the lynch onto me in order to have a confirmed death; I don't know how viable this is especially

[glowball]

I actually thought Nos and I were on the same page and starting to over sell our town reads on Nos to hide that we both suspected you as scum, but obviously Nos does think you're town and I think that's going to be what costs us this game.

[Ankamius]

glowball I claimed human VT sometime within the last two game days before you drained me

[Nosferatu]

there's a 1/3 chance that ank is scum

[Ankamius]

one thing I will note is that you would be dead if both Mathblade and I were scum since we can stack kills on you

[Ankamius]

that doesn't clear me by any stretch but it does strongly indicate that at the very least Math and I are not scum together

[Nosferatu]

want me to shoot ank if muffin flips town? I don't really care that much.

[Ankamius]

the next order of business

is why I would specifically try to steer the lynch onto toranaga as hard as I did over hebichan

[Ankamius]

idk why I'm trying to towncase myself

the only person who has any reason to care is Gamma

[Ankamius]

huh. that gives me pause, actually

does scum-math push himself into a position where his only sensical play is to push Nosferatu as a wolf?

[Ankamius]

nah that doesn't matter too much

Mathblade isn't trying to keep glowball alive, which is an easier way to lose

it kind of explains why he's not specifically pushing me but the way he's playing still makes no sense as non-wolf

[glowball]

one thing I will note is that you would be dead if both Mathblade and I were scum since we can stack kills on you

I don't know if I believe Math is scum anymore than you. I never said you had to be scum TOGETHER.

[Ankamius]

that's a future note that if one of us flips wolf, the other is basically cleared

[Ankamius]

it makes far more sense to either take advantage of the double kills to get a majority directly or to stack kills on you in order to get rid of you

the only way that doesn't work that I know of is if Mathblade is ENTIRELY DEADSET on his sketchy as fuck vampire claim

[glowball]

You guys said my role sounded suspect. It didn't make sense. I was told that everytime.

Now I'm confirmed.

Obviously this game is sketchy.