Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[Toranaga]

second time I fail miserably while subbing into a mastina game on d3

teaches me something about doing that in the first place

[Toranaga]

can I die after you killed the other people in POE? maybe we can win together! not that I deserve it

[Ankamius]

Convince Nos, not me

Although you will have to convince glowball too

[Nosferatu]

I'm guessing nosferatu doesn't understand the stuff mathblade goes through and didn't mean anything.

i just didnt care if im being honest

[Nosferatu]

but i have to shoot you or globall will literally explode

[Toranaga]

I'm guessing nosferatu doesn't understand the stuff mathblade goes through and didn't mean anything.

i just didnt care if im being honest

yeah but do care, because you're triggering a condition the dude has by saying that kind of stuff. it's not all drama, you know

[Toranaga]

but i have to shoot you or globall will literally explode

I don't even care enough to understand this

alright good game me. who do I vote?

[Ankamius]

I don't know what's funnier

The claim being legit and it being carried out in the most hilarious way possible

Or toranaga claiming a very wolfy looking kill as a werewolf

[glowball]

I shot the wrong fucking guy

Shot? Devoured doesn't sound like shot. Devoured is obviously non human flavor.
You're not claiming Vampire, the only other choice would be wolf.
Done.

Not to mention, you knew your role would janitor the target THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CLAIM BEFORE YOU KILL- it's an asset to the town to decide whether or not it should be used and on who.
And if you're going to janitor without consult then MAKE SURE YOURE AIMING AT THE INTENDED TARGET.

but i have to shoot you or globall will literally explode

I actually want Toranga lynched now.

This is basically what Toranga claimed:
They thought Vecna was ME aka a Vampire and fucked that up
They shot someone who they thought had fully claimed and was a "perfect" janitor target EVEN THOUGH they receive their role and alignment!?!?
- IF you receive role and alignment, it wouldn't matter as much because you could just operate as any other investigative and expose the role LIKE YOU DID ANYWAY.
So why not shoot at someone most likely to flip wolf and then out those results?! Because you MIGHT kill a townie? ...you did that anyway and if you were actually concerned with shooting a human townie you would have done your due diligence in knowing that I was the Vampire since it's pretty much the only thing I talk about. Not sure that I buy you thought Vecna was the Vampire. Not only that... BUT
They shot at a Vampire THAT WAS CONFIRMED - Math & Gamma confirmed my role- in no way at this point in the game would taking any non-wolf out be logical unless you're a wolf.
Finally... a janitor type role, even in this fucked up game, would need to go to the wolves... considering every "Faction" had to eliminate wolves they were at an extreme disadvantage.

I don't know what's funnier

The claim being legit and it being carried out in the most hilarious way possible

Or toranaga claiming a very wolfy looking kill as a werewolf

I honestly think it was just a poorly thought out claim brought on by the fact that I seemed understanding to the possibility of a non-wolf making that kill.

The ONLY things giving me concern is that why wouldn't wolfToranga just claim Vecna was a wolf since we have no way of confirming? And who are the wolf partners that let Toranga be this openly ridiculous?
That being said, obviously Toranga isn't paying very much attention and if there's anyone I'd be concerned with living who also has a very high likelihood of being a wolf it's Toranga.

I want that lynch today.

VOTE: Toranga

[MathBlade]

Prod dodge

I think Nos is scum

[glowball]

Prod dodge

I think Nos is scum

I dont think Nos is a wolf but I don't think he needs to eliminate them as part of his wincon

[MathBlade]

Prod dodge

I think Nos is scum

I dont think Nos is a wolf but I don't think he needs to eliminate them as part of his wincon

Then what do you think his wincon is?

[glowball]

I'm not sure. If I believe your wincon then that means there's any number of convoluted wincons. Maybe he just needs to survive? I really don't know.

[MathBlade]

I'm not sure. If I believe your wincon then that means there's any number of convoluted wincons. Maybe he just needs to survive? I really don't know.

If you don’t know if he is aligned with you why are you okay with him living?

[glowball]

I'm not sure. If I believe your wincon then that means there's any number of convoluted wincons. Maybe he just needs to survive? I really don't know.

If you don’t know if he is aligned with you why are you okay with him living?

Because my wincon says to eliminate WOLVES. I don't think he's a WOLF.

I'm not gonna waste lynches on things that don't further my wincon.

[MathBlade]

I'm not sure. If I believe your wincon then that means there's any number of convoluted wincons. Maybe he just needs to survive? I really don't know.

If you don’t know if he is aligned with you why are you okay with him living?

Because my wincon says to eliminate WOLVES. I don't think he's a WOLF.

I'm not gonna waste lynches on things that don't further my wincon.

So does mine.

But if a player is gonna cause me to lose he is a wolf no matter what his alignment is. I think it is wolf but even if I didn’t think he was I still make this push.

[Ankamius]

Man it's openwolf season in here

[Ankamius]

Also if anyone had ant doubts that glowball might possibly still be a wolf, read 6158 until you understand why she's not

[glowball]

I'm not sure. If I believe your wincon then that means there's any number of convoluted wincons. Maybe he just needs to survive? I really don't know.

If you don’t know if he is aligned with you why are you okay with him living?

Because my wincon says to eliminate WOLVES. I don't think he's a WOLF.

I'm not gonna waste lynches on things that don't further my wincon.

So does mine.

But if a player is gonna cause me to lose he is a wolf no matter what his alignment is. I think it is wolf but even if I didn’t think he was I still make this push.

As poetic as that is, it's not true. The game has rules. Just because he's not helping you fulfill your wincon doesn't make him a wolf. Obviously because he wants you dead that makes him a threat to your survival wincon, but that's why I've asked him to let us lynch you. If you're not a wolf killing Toranga and Muffin should end the game. If it doesn't, you or Ank are wolves and it's solely your fault for your terrible game play if you lose. Granted, that would mean that I lose if you aren't a wolf because if the game is still going and I'm alive and you're alive then I have to vote you just to keep my word to Nos.

[glowball]

And if you are town, and you think Ank and Nos aren't wolves then Nos isn't a threat at all -unless he decides not to keep his word which at the end of the day I have no control over but I'm trying here.

[glowball]

I mean if you think Nos is a wolf the push makes sense but it doesnt seem like thats your primary motive

[Nosferatu]

Prod dodge

I think Nos is scum

no u dont

[zMuffinMan]

i'm town

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: tor

totally my dude

[Gamma Emerald]

Wtf even is a devourer

It's a fucking scum role is what it is
VOTE: toranaga