I agree with thisIn post 1794, skitter30 wrote: i'm kinda getting a better feel for what sando's thinking right now and there are parallels with how he played jungle republic; also this sounds like it's a hill he's willing to die on andidk if scum decides to pick a fight here with ausuka who's been kinda widely townread?
In post 1002, Skygazer wrote:I'm neighbourizer and through PoE from my neighbor's claim we discovered that there has to be a Vig/PGO in AP/Skitter/Oka/Vulcan which means that one of those players would know that a ruru kill would be safe
We think that Oka and Vulcan are town, though, and that AP would've used their one-shot last night
like why does scum!ausuka have this convo with sky in the first place?In post 1011, Skygazer wrote:For reference it took us a little bit to put together that there's likely a scum PGO/vig in the pool of people above her. When I realized, Ausuka was really cautious over jumping to conclusions and we worked through a few scenarios where this wouldn't be the case. We're townreading Oka and Vulcan, we realized that if AP had the role he would've likely taken the shot out of fear of being lynched, and skitter-scum is consistent with Ausuka's reads which I trust.
also the bolded feels poisoning-the-well-y from ap; like he was trying to cast doubt on her claimIn post 1034, AP wrote:OK.. so assuming Ausuka's town here makes that lynch pool ideal. Even if she is scum (I don't think she is) and is telling the truth about going for Vig/PGO and not getting it means scum would have believed ruru = Ausuka cannot be scum AND killed ruru.
But what if Ausuka did land Vig/PGO and is now gambitting? That would be a very good way to keep the PRs away AND doe her to survive unsuspected for a couple more days.
DISCUSS before we do anything hasty. We are alead already and we don't want to give scum back the grounds that we had won.
Never mind I literally have to go right now sorry lol. But I shall return after the commercials of Chicken Kiev!In post 1805, Myloninja13 wrote:Ay, I'm here quickly before I have to run off for dinner lol.
I mean I get it, but literally other than saying the words "PGO/Vig" Aus did literally nothing, and actively worked against the idea of AP being scum multiple times.In post 1803, skitter30 wrote:In post 1002, Skygazer wrote:I'm neighbourizer and through PoE from my neighbor's claim we discovered that there has to be a Vig/PGO in AP/Skitter/Oka/Vulcan which means that one of those players would know that a ruru kill would be safe
We think that Oka and Vulcan are town, though, and that AP would've used their one-shot last nightlike why does scum!ausuka have this convo with sky in the first place?In post 1011, Skygazer wrote:For reference it took us a little bit to put together that there's likely a scum PGO/vig in the pool of people above her. When I realized, Ausuka was really cautious over jumping to conclusions and we worked through a few scenarios where this wouldn't be the case. We're townreading Oka and Vulcan,we realized that if AP had the role he would've likely taken the shot out of fear of being lynched, and skitter-scum is consistent with Ausuka's reads which I trust.
like why not just claim something safe (she had at least four safepicks at this point)
You may not have been clearing CJ for it, but CJ had done the exact thing you were claiming cleared you.In post 1802, skitter30 wrote:and tbf i was clearing him for one good vote whereas scum!me would have been bussing via getting the seer to start a wagon on my partner; those aren't quite the same thing, and cj didn't do that
This was what I said in dead thread.In post 66, Sando wrote:Skitter is the only town currently capable of making a coherent case and will defend CJ with the same reasoning she's defending herself, with the pressure from Klick I'm not sure how she ever gets it done with CJ.
And the reaction to this from Ausuka has not exactly moved her towards town in my eyes... yeah but saying the words 'pgo/vig' instigated the ap lynch imoIn post 1807, Sando wrote:I mean I get it, but literally other than saying the words "PGO/Vig" Aus did literally nothing, and actively worked against the idea of AP being scum multiple times.
i think on some fundemental level we view anti-associatives differently because i still believe my behavior around the ap lynch in jungle republic should have been clearing, and i also believe that ausuka's behavior around the ap lynch in this game ought to be clearing tooIn post 1809, Sando wrote:Regardless, you're well aware that I don't respect "locktown" reads And the reaction to this from Ausuka has not exactly moved her towards town in my eyes...
Interested in the Mylo read there. If he's scum, me and Aus just set up a massive TvT, what about Mylo says he quietly slinks away from that as scum? Seems like a good situation for him, sitting on one of the TvT wagons before it even starts.
This though, combined with ignoring points about other scummy behaviour is exactly why it's so dangerous.In post 1810, skitter30 wrote:i think on some fundemental level we view anti-associatives differently because i still believe my behavior around the ap lynch in jungle republic should have been clearing, and i also believe that ausuka's behavior around the ap lynch in this game ought to be clearing too
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXCaEU-zSYQ[/youtube]In post 1298, Ausuka wrote:last scum is almost never here
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last scum is unlikely to be here
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Sando
last scum is probably here
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