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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:06 pm

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In post 2548, Skygazer wrote:fun fact i tried to replace into mumble slot because i was scumreading tw here

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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:07 pm

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i mean both correctly lynching tw and playing scum with tw wouldve been fun
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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:07 pm

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why not both
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:09 pm

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In post 2546, Mumble wrote:
In post 2540, Garmr wrote:You know you can cancel a replace out If they haven't found somebody.
Can you find me an example of this? At a minimum it's the moderator's call.
To lazy to find an example but I know there have been cases.
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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:11 pm

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Still waiting for that death thread :P
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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:11 pm

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In post 2551, Skygazer wrote:i mean both correctly lynching tw and playing scum with tw wouldve been fun
In post 2552, RadiantCowbells wrote:why not both
honestly rc this is exactly how I feel about playing with scum tw
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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:18 pm

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Finally.

Nero, never replace into or sign up for a game I'm in OK? Thx. Not gonna argue or discuss because I don't see a way it could have a positive outcome due to the fact you've fake guitlied before, caught scum with it, and will use that to justify the fake guilty at least 3 more times. Nothing personal.
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:19 pm

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I will do that if you promise never to do slayers gambit.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:22 pm

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I haven't fake guitlied in ages. Probs have to for a future game.
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:23 pm

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I have a guilty on Garmr.
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:23 pm

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if you can't fake guilty super reliably then you shouldn't do it.
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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:25 pm

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i have a innocent on cowbells
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:25 pm

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In post 2560, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you can't fake guilty super reliably then you shouldn't do it.
Last time I did it I hit town but scums reaction to it was so obvious It made it clear who scum were after the mislynch.
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:27 pm

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I don't even know what that is. There was no gambit. I correctly read oath. I correctly stated countless times day 1 that scum weren't active. I'm taking a break from the site anyways.

I asked nicely. So please for the sake of both of us do not play with me again. I ask this under the premise that a VT that fake claims because they are incapable of persuasion can't be trusted in any future games I play with them. It's the mafia equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum. Persuasion is a huge part of the game and you outright ignore that when you fake a guilty. Like other solo gambit players you got it right once and justify bad gambits because of it.

Please be mature and listen to my wishes. I'd really appreciate it. Nothing personal at all. I just think your play, that play in particular, Shows your not willing to work with other people and I can't trust you ever. Ik you're not dumb. I've seen you play well. It's just selfish play imo. I don't want to play with people who do that. Nothing personal. I wish you the best.
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:28 pm

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i was in that game.
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 2560, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you can't fake guilty super reliably then you shouldn't do it.
I played my 1st mafia game ever with you and had no idea you were such a big deal at the time lol. Pretty cool.
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:29 pm

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In post 2562, Garmr wrote:
In post 2560, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you can't fake guilty super reliably then you shouldn't do it.
Last time I did it I hit town but scums reaction to it was so obvious It made it clear who scum were after the mislynch.
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get good reactions from it but I still don't recommend don't it and getting reactions from it isn't y I did it this game. Tchill was just annoying me.
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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:31 pm

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oh you can like claim a guilty then retract it, you should be sparing about that but it's fine
but actually lynching people with fake guilties isn't something you should do unless the situation really calls for it
like my intersection of 3 rules for claiming guilties is

1) 100% certainty that they're scum (note that this in and of itself does not justify fakeclaming a guilty to me)
2) floundering town clause: unless I'm significantly over 50% sure that the person won't get lynched and town will lose without the guilty, I don't claim it
3) gamestate setup wise: no potential to out PRs or some potential to aid the game in some other way
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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:32 pm

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Tchill as reasonable as you're trying to come off here you really shouldn't self-hammer as VT
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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:32 pm

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Wait why is faking guilties still a thing
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pm

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I'm sure it's useful in top tier mafia, which I'm nowhere near, I just think scum hunting and persuasion are equally important skills. You flat out throw one of those away because of your incapability to persuade when you fake a guilty. Shouldn't be allowed imo. It's practically game throwing.

Even more so when done purely out of spite.
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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:36 pm

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very very few people should actually ever consider fakeclaiming a guilty but I don't just want to say do as I say and not as I do so
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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 2568, Krazy wrote:Tchill as reasonable as you're trying to come off here you really shouldn't self-hammer as VT
I thought I had scum dead to rights and in most cases, if town plays properly, I would have. My self hammer would have led to a scum lynch, I had no reason to believe otherwise, and I will always trade a town for a scum if it 100 percent allows me to lynch scum. I thought it did there. He fake guiltied. So idk what to tell you. Obviously I never even consider fake guilties.
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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:37 pm

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idk players who think they are good enough to fake guilties are the players who shouldn't be faking guilties amirite?
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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:38 pm

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In post 2573, T-Bone wrote:idk players who think they are good enough to fake guilties are the players who shouldn't be faking guilties amirite?
i am not good enough so i should, right
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