Mini Normal 2024 - Endgame

[Creature]

ugh this game goes into mylo really fast

because vig

and we wasted the two first lynches on two players we can't read.

yeah but if krazy picked wrong we would be in mylo today

maybe it feels this way because i repped in

I mean vig usually fastforwards the game.

[Scioness Sajj]

Hey Scioness I know you're boring me and think I'm scum and stuff, but can you tell what you think of Creature today. All these posts seem super sketch.

i know you know that i think you are scum but do you know why?

sigh, creature is creature but the content from today reads town to me. like reads his post with how he is posting instead of what

Also I'd like to point out that Toranga spent a LOT of time in twilight throwing suspicion my way and likely did not expect to die overnight.

highly speculative. never played with scum Tora but he really didn't put out any content i don't dare to make a bet on what he thought. but i wouldn't call one post 'a lot of time'.

Like it's not exonerating, but wouldn't that be a weird amount of bussing to strike up out of nowhere?

how many games have you played on this site?
i wouldn't classify this as bussing

[Scioness Sajj]

ugh this game goes into mylo really fast

because vig

and we wasted the two first lynches on two players we can't read.

yeah but if krazy picked wrong we would be in mylo today

maybe it feels this way because i repped in

I mean vig usually fastforwards the game.

yeah i got that

it just still feels sooo fast

[Scioness Sajj]

nsg/tora slot had interesting approaches towards creature.

Creature, do you have any thoughts on why you have got special treatment?

[panthaleon]

Toranaga made 4 rapid succession posts against me after twilight began and I acknowledged Krazy was correct about his suspicious behavior:

BBT, like I said before, I believe there is scum on the Kop wagon. That means that I have narrowed my pool of interest to there. Of those five remaining people, you have the most suspicious body of activity, which is the reason that I am pushing you. I can say that you are not really handling that tiny pressure well and you have ignored two opportunities I have given to quit tunneling and trying to dig into a pointless fight.

I will repeat: if you are not the scum on the Kop wagon, then who is? If you can't answer that, I might as well keep my vote parked here until you do.

--

Toranga is also a good vote too, but I vastly prefer pushing BBT. Particularly I take issue with the lack of any voting that Krazy mentioned, as well as this vote:

I still think scum!BBT doesn't make that kill.

I don't have any context to know better but I'm already assuming this is a deep enough read that scum!creature almost never makes

Looks to me like too much like trying to find an excuse to 'lock' a player as town.

you vastly prefer "pushing" BBT? what's the problem with not voting? you understand I just replaced in yes?

what's your read on dr doolittle?

Hey Toranaga why didn't you vote for DrDoolittle after this

IDK anything and I'm just suggesting but that drdolittle ISO is an absolute garbage fire and deserves death

nice crosspost

I'm not voting anyone until I have a good handle of the game. why do you consider it scummy?

That's a pretty good question, Scioness. I read it more as looking for an opportunity to have someone's reads to fall back on, as well as to artificially reduce the pool of players to actually investigate or scumhunt through. Honestly I was planning to mention the weird lack of voting, but Krazy took the though right out of my head last night. I think it's worth Toranga explaining how they have time to make silly joke posts about pizza or a flat earth, but no time to put their vote to use gathering information.

voting "for information" on d2 isn't something I do.

What an absolutely wretched player.

you were voting him, right? and you were around when he said he'd self hammer. why didn't you unvote? you're just posting rn like you're sure that's a town slot. what did BBT do outside of self hammer that was "wretched"? his posting seems fine.

I also have no idea why you think I'm scum, but you seem weirdly confident about it.

[Alchemist21]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

[Nauci]

I was town reading a surprising number of the remaining player list so I'm just going to to reread the game with the flips/replacements knowledge and take notes as I go along. This has been a crazy number of replacements.

Also I misread ejj's post initially; oops. This makes more sense. I think 10 days is a bit too long to wait and doesn't leave us to potentially re-evaluate before lynch time, but 7-8 days seems reasonable, as much as I'm itching to find out. I'd be skeptical as hell if it wasn't for that crumb; brilliantly done there

how did you misread my post?
I'm not planning to torment either town or the mafia, so it's not like it haaaas to be 10 days. But you know, we'll see how it goes
and thanks xD

I read it just after I woke up early this morning (briefly) and skimmed it thinking it said you found a gun on Scioness and it made no sense with your crumb so I'm glad I reread it when I actually got up and had my caffeine

[Scioness Sajj]

@panthaleon

1. krazy said nothing about Tora after he has made those posts
2. the first three posts are more about Tora than about you imo

[Scioness Sajj]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

reads on other players
please and thank you

[panthaleon]

Scioness I have no idea what you are talking about. All four of those posts are from Toranaga and addressed to me. How are they not designed to throw suspicion on me and the way I am playing. As for Krazy, of course he didn't say anything after those posts. The day was over and he already put his vote out there. He didn't need to do anything else.

[Creature]

Creature, do you have any thoughts on why you have got special treatment?

Players tend to clear me by postcount.

[Alchemist21]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

reads on other players
please and thank you

They’re all varying degrees of Town. Nauci’s the weakest Townread.

[ejjinami]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

Wanna vote/lynch HWS with me?

[ejjinami]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

reads on other players
please and thank you

<3

[Alchemist21]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

Wanna vote/lynch HWS with me?

I can, though I still prefer DDL for a couple of reasons. Why do you want to lynch outside your guilty again?

Either way, I’ll help with HWS.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[ejjinami]

Ugh, I don’t like waiting after all, it’s such a pain
I’m not really the patient type ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I got most of the reactions I wanted though, so I might as well reveal my check.

I checked

HeWhoSwims

last night and he

does have a gun

.

[ejjinami]

Nauci

is lock clear because of that, cuz she heavily SRd both

NSG

and

Mumble

(HWS’s slot) and repeatedly tried to switch the wagon to either of them.

[ejjinami]

Fun fact, while interacting with HWS I made a few “I didn’t check you” slips, so that he thinks that the other mafia was checked. Obviously mafia would want to know who will get lynched, so they would have to be incredibly dumb not to notice all of my “slips”.

hope it's you

It's fully mutual sweetheart

What have I done wrong

you either haven't read my post or you're shading on a conf town, which one is it?

wiggle wiggle wiggle

btw, who do you think I checked?

hint, I diiiiiidn't read the last pages, so it was mostly gut. lol

My early interactions with HWS. The question and hint was supposed to make him think that I legit want him to look through my iso and guess.

I didn't want to lynch outside your check ejji

Most of my reads still stand tbh with DDL/Alch being my scumreads right now

I thought you checked someone I townread. Which is why I'm cautious.

You have 10 days. I don't care what you do, you could reevaluate your reads or completely waste all of the time you've got.
It's your choice and you'll be read for it later

And IF you think I checked the scum among your townreads, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHO IT IS? I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU.
If you find them and lynch them today, you'll get free towncreed
If you don't, I personally want you lynched later.

This is a reaaaally obvious slip. I don’t believe mafia could have missed it, cuz they should have been looking for it.

lol we're so cocky when we're like one mislynch away from MyLo with two scum left.

1 of them is confirmed and we need info

you seem to agree that people shouldn't blindly follow my check, so why are you against it?

Scum can't both go antispew, so let's torment them.

that's why I want to lynch outside of my check today.
I will do a VCA and will catch up on all of the stuff that I've missed
and I should prob get some p sweet info and at least a few good townreads.

So if people agree to follow me when I say someone is town, we can avoid the obv town lynches and still get some p sweet info from the scum I checked.

btw VOTE: HWS
I want to lynch here rn, his reactions to my check were just awful

This is nearly a direct claim that I didn’t check him.

[ejjinami]

As I said before, the posts above were supposed to make scum think that I checked the mafia other than HWS. This would make the false-checked mafia easier to read, as they would most likely either suddenly lose their motivation to play, or do everything in their might to distance from HWS.

From the 2-nd mafia’s pov, there was a red check on them, so they would get lynched soon. Making HWS live till the end was their only chance for victory.


My later posts (fe 1405) focused on pushing HWS so that the 2-nd mafia feels threatened and it’s easier to hunt for reactions.

[ejjinami]

Creature

is lock clear because of his reactions to my push on HWS and not losing his motivation after all of my "slips".

He obviously knew I'm town, so he didn't bother to look at the crumb

I didn't either.

And this ^
I think it’s really unlikely for him to have written that, when he should have believed that HWS living was his only chance for victory. Writing that about his teammate would be close to suicide in this scenario.

He obviously knew I'm town, so he didn't bother to look at the crumb

I didn't either.

What is your read on HWS

Town

but obviously it's like one of those reads I'm likely to get outtalked from.

same with that one.
Absolutely no bussing. Completely calm demeanor, willing to make reads and check stuff on his own.
Like, if that’s not town, I freaking don’t know what is.

[ejjinami]

Panhaleon

is also town for not losing motivation and being completely ignorant about HWS. He didn’t seem concerned with my check at all.
He wrote posts about other random stuff, which, considering the situation, I think is town indicative.

I dig. This is better than my weak gut feels around Nauci.

UNVOTE: Nauci

VOTE: Creature

I liked his post. Him rethinking his reads and completely ignoring me and my check is town-indicative imo.
He also seemed motivated to defend himself from sci’s weak-ish pushes, which I find both kinda townie and useless (in this situation).
That’s a weaker TR than Creat, but I’m still confident in it, especially since I had a rather solid TR on Rei.

[ejjinami]

And again, Nauci should be town because of the way she SRd NSG and mumble earlier on.

[ejjinami]

The remaining ones are:
DDL and Alchem.

[ejjinami]

I don’t have a confident TR on DDL, but Alchem’s reaction was textbook scum here and we have 2 MLes anyways.

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

That’s really obvious distancing. It doesn’t mean town couldn’t have done that, but that’s EXACTLY what mafia would have done in this situation to save his last, unchecked teammate.

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

Wanna vote/lynch HWS with me?

I can, though I still prefer DDL for a couple of reasons. Why do you want to lynch outside your guilty again?

Either way, I’ll help with HWS.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

And an equally bad response to my probe.

[ejjinami]

Anyways, we can lynch HWS now. I have no intention of letting him live through the day
And I DEFINITELY want to lynch alchem tomorrow. If it doesn’t work, DDL goes next, but I really doubt I would be wrong here. The reactions were really, really clear imo.