Mini Normal 2024 - Endgame

[panthaleon]

Ejj before we snap lynch HWS, I would like to put forth the suggestion of a mass claim now. If the remaining team is indeed HWS and Alchemist/DDL, then my role leaves me with some questions that I would like answered before I completely clear Creature. If we are locking things in at this point, a mass claim should be pure upside for the town.

[ejjinami]

ok, if you think claiming would be helpful, don't hesitate to do it

I already claimed

[ejjinami]

maybe it would be good to make the protective role (if we've got one) claim VT
but it's up to discussion

[panthaleon]

For defs. I just would like Creature to claim first. Scioness claiming would also be helpful, hence why I suggested a full claim.

PEdit: That could be valid too if they're really concerned. I think jamming as many confirmed town players might just be straight up better, but I can't fault a doctor hiding. Role blockers/Jailkeepers should probably claim though 'cause that's #relevant

[ejjinami]

sci should claim last because she's confirmed town.

[panthaleon]

I can get behind that

[PenguinPower]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

HeWhoSwims

(2): ejjinami, Alchemist21

panthaleon

(1): Scioness Sajj

Creature

(1): panthaleon

Not Voting

(4): Creature, DrDolittle, HeWhoSwims, Nauci

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-09-12 11:15:00)

[ejjinami]

(ugh, same should go for nauci imo, becuase I have a really strong TR on her)
(but I don't really care about the rest)

[Alchemist21]

If you have to lynch me before DDL that’s fine as long as it gets done. Just remember a couple things:

I'll be completely honest, I was tunnelling irrelephant yesterday, and the flip caught me by surprise and I didn't have another strong scum read carrying over from yesterday. After rereading, my top 2.5 scum prospects are

BBT: his votes all of yesterday were very opportunistic on Nauci and on Kop. His reason on Nauci was that a post read fluff and 'safe', ignoring the fact that Nauci has been one of the leading posters and putting in effort at 163 (other than the weird 81 post praising irrel). The reason seems fake as hell, and more like an excuse to push to a lynch (Nauci was at L-3 and BBT was the 4th piling vote) Then, BBT switches to Kop as sees that wagon gaining momentum - and doesn't fully commit to Kop " If we could, I would lynch TChill or DDL over Kop." as if he knows kop will flip town, meanwhile setting up a lynch on me and tchill and potentially irre.

NSG: NSG has contributed nothing so far to this game in terms of scumhunting. Her interaction with Irrelephant reads scum. I also dont like the blatant buddying up to creature (i think with potential goal that if buddied up, creatures prolific posting can balance out her lurking a bit??), and i'm inclined to believe people's meta read on lurking scum!nsg after glancing a couple of her scum game

ejjinami: his posts have been prolific and has not been seriously scrutinzied, but honestly there's not too much substance in these posts. Early game there was a couple of scum hunting, but by late, it was mostly asking questions (but not in a way that is trying to find scum - more like trying to gauge how people feel...) and commenting of gameplay style. Idk there's just smthing odd in his posts that rub me in a wrong way, but honestly more of a gut read.

VOTE: BBT

Like I see this as a typical scum “talk about 3 people and include a buddy” post.

Maybe I’m wrong about one of you two but I can guarantee if DDL is scum he has a partner in this list of 3.

I still firmly believe this is a scum post by DDL and from what we know the 2 Townies and a buddy thing holds true (NSG was scum, the other 2 were/are Town).

Despite the attitude he had last Day, I believe BBT is a strong player and this is a scumread we did agree on. Don’t just let him go if I die first.

[ejjinami]

ok

[Creature]

For defs. I just would like Creature to claim first.

Ascetic Townie

[Creature]

still, I forgot I was ascetic till the moment I re-checked my role PM which was like about now.

[panthaleon]

Thank you Creature.

I am a Town Informed Neighborizor. The information that I was given is that Krazy's slot was a non-vanilla town-aligned role, which is why Rei neighborized him. The crumb was here:

I'm getting town vibes from tchill, his posts radiate genuine townie aura

twain is also a veeery slight town read
BBT I still think that post at the beginning was kinda townie tbh. I'll try to get a better read on him but for now its a town gut read.
For ejjinami, I remember the newbie we played together he was very active, like he died n1 and still had most posts by the end of the game. So far I don't see much difference tone wise, but if he is scum I'm not expecting a huge change from his town game. For now he seems like his townie self but I feel like he could fake his effort as scum, so I think I'll get a better read on it as we progress. (Oh and ejji I don't crack under pressure as scum )
UNVOTE: ejjinami

I think I'd like to pressure this wagon more
VOTE: Dr.Dolittle

Which I doubled down here:

[sic]

Mumble - Mumble is...fine? Like, some of our reads line up, which isn't 100% reassuring, but is at least a place to start with the null-leaning-town.

Tchill slot -

My slot was a big fan of Tchill at the start, which I don't exactly understand, but I am willing to humor the perspective.

I do like Krazy from the start, though. The vote on the Kop wagon seems fine enough, since I cannot fault how sketchy he seemed to get there at the end.

Creature - Eh. I read through this ISO twice over and it just kinda washed over me. I feel like I need to postpone a read here, since I can honestly go either way.

[sic]

I mentioned the Toranaga lack of vote to Krazy during Day 2, which is why he made that vote. He also mentioned to me in the Neighborhood that he was going to target Toranaga, which is why I mentioned nice shot in my opening post today:

Nice shot, Krazy.

I'm a little disappointed that BBT turned out to be town since I was more than willing to engage, but c'est la vie. I want to

VOTE: Nauci

Since they are next on my scum list. I am a little concerned that my gut reaction was wrong and there might not have been scum in Kop's Day 1 wagon. That is absurd, though, right? There has to be?

Night 2 attempted to Neighborize Creature, but failed to do so. That's why I was looking to get a claim. I'll be voting HWS, but I still do not want to make it any easier for a self hammer to shut down discussion until we finish the full claim.

[panthaleon]

UNVOTE: Creature

[Creature]

Who's next to claim?

[Nauci]

Ejj deserves a standing ovation

I will vote once I'm caught up

[Nauci]

Why are we claiming I'm lost

[Nauci]

sci should claim last because she's confirmed town.

Do we actually need conftown to claim though?

[panthaleon]

Yes I need Scioness to claim too. We're claiming because theoretically the game is won and more information is always better.

[Alchemist21]

Odd. I thought Rei had crumbed Bulletproof. Would have potentially explained the lack of a second kill N1.

[panthaleon]

Yeah I am curious about that as well. Come on Alchemist friend we're all claiming. It's super fun!

[Alchemist21]

I’m just a VT.

[Nauci]

Odd. I thought Rei had crumbed Bulletproof. Would have potentially explained the lack of a second kill N1.

You think Rei would have been shot at N1?

[panthaleon]

Yo Nauci claim pls

[Alchemist21]

Odd. I thought Rei had crumbed Bulletproof. Would have potentially explained the lack of a second kill N1.

You think Rei would have been shot at N1?

Possibly. Though now that I think about it, knowing that Tchill was the vig makes it less likely. He would have shot one of the lurkers he was on.