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Sorry, i'm mid-finals so i'm lacking time to post.Crub wrote:I don't think we can just assume ABR is scum. Just because it makes no sense for a townie to self-hammer in that situation, does it mean that ABR is not a townie. It is ABR we're talking about after all.
Not saying that it's not likely ... just saying we shouldn't assume anything
Agreed. Also i'd like to note again for those of you who are slow. Please knock before breaking into my house like a dunce.
Back to the point at hand. Am i seeing things or did ABR hammer himself?
Anyway..... Right now i'm a bit sketch on letting anyone else die, If someone could simplify the current top suspect and position that would be nice. I tried reading back but i feel as if im missing something important.
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The current suspects are DGB and I.sykedoc wrote:Crub wrote:Anyway..... Right now i'm a bit sketch on letting anyone else die, If someone could simplify the current top suspect and position that would be nice. I tried reading back but i feel as if im missing something important.
The argument vs. DGB is two pages back. Look for Suyre's long post.
The argument vs. me is a page back. Look for one of DGB's posts.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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No, IMO current suspects are lets not fuck around with the WIFOM between all the cops and focus on people like hjallti who have nothing to even potentially confirm them in the slightest.
Plus we would rather lynch non-DGB scum then DGB scum as DGB scum is presumably the last member of her group if she is scum as she shot Dasq, while the other scum, while likely the last member of their group due to ABR's death, is still possibly paired, and leaving both groups alive allows for cross kills.
(though if DGB becomes for sure scum she has to die ASAP, but I still think the corrupt cop thing is all speculation at this point and not worth lynching investigative roles over).Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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sykedoc Mafia Scum
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I originally thought this, but thinking about it further I wouldn't be surprised if DGB shot another member of her mafia.armlx wrote:Plus we would rather lynch non-DGB scum then DGB scum as DGB scum is presumably the last member of her group if she is scum as she shot Dasq, while the other scum, while likely the last member of their group due to ABR's death, is still possibly paired, and leaving both groups alive allows for cross kills.Moo?-
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I think this is deeply flawed logic. In a game of this size, a cross kill seems extremely unlikely. Unless 'member of scum group A' is absolutely certain that a player is 'member of scum group B', then they are much more likely to hit another member of the town rather than blindly hit upon a member of the other scum group. Eliminating a group serves the town by reducing the potential number of deaths.armlx wrote: Plus we would rather lynch non-DGB scum then DGB scum as DGB scum is presumably the last member of her group if she is scum as she shot Dasq, while the other scum, while likely the last member of their group due to ABR's death, is still possibly paired, and leaving both groups alive allows for cross kills.
I'm not convinced that DGB is scum, though, and agree that lynching any more of our cops at this point is a bad idea.-
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wait-wait. Back up.
Are we implying here that DGB would hurt her chance of survival by shooting one of the last members of her mafia? Thereby leaving her to die pretty quickly at some point?
I dont think its a great theory.ShowCurrently Modding:
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Wow, how did I get a reputation for being that crazy??? Are there precedents of me vigging buddies in other games at least? If you believe that (and I don't think that you really do), then I should never, ever get lynched.Crub wrote:I originally thought this, but thinking about it further I wouldn't be surprised if DGB shot another member of her mafia.
vote: Crub- because no townie could ever come up with such a crazy theory, not even me. That's confusion-sowing scum.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I believe that Surye's argument (no guarantee that I understand it correctly) is that I did not investigate skitzer, but instead I investigated Dasquian, and found him guilty. So I "framed" skitzer the dead guy by saying he tried to break into the house of another dead guy, and shot Dasquian. Therefore I must be a corrupt cop.armlx wrote:SL: I'm not convinced either, just saying.....
And there would be no reason for DGB to bus one of her own like that, especially when they were under no suspicion.
The way I understand it, it makes no sense, so don't worry if it doesn't to you, either.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Your theory that I am scum that killed an opposing scum group member pre-supposes that I somehow knew that Dasquian belonged to said opposing scum group. I'm sure if you try, you can fabricate far-fetched scenarios where that might be possible.Surye wrote:No, I offered that as an idea, but I don't believe you investigated Das, just stating it was a possibility. My case against you doesn't require that.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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You didn't have to know das was scum, you may have gotten lucky. Or maybe you investigated him night 0, killed Flameaxe, and reported flameaxe innocent. No matter how you spin it, EVERY play you've made in this game has been oppurtunistic, all of them looking very town, but often not actualy helping the town (though killing scum was nice).DrippingGoofball wrote:
Your theory that I am scum that killed an opposing scum group member pre-supposes that I somehow knew that Dasquian belonged to said opposing scum group. I'm sure if you try, you can fabricate far-fetched scenarios where that might be possible.Surye wrote:No, I offered that as an idea, but I don't believe you investigated Das, just stating it was a possibility. My case against you doesn't require that.-
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If you believe I didn't know, then why would my shooting down Dasquian implicate me with the opposing scumgroup??? I did get incredibly lucky through the thick fog of my own misunderstanding, that's for sure...Surye wrote:You didn't have to know das was scum, you may have gotten lucky.
How can you say that, when YOU KNOW who I investigated Night 0???Surye wrote:Or maybe you investigated him night 0,
Since you KNOW I was out investigating, why are you imagining that I would have killed Flameaxe?Surye wrote:killed Flameaxe, and reported flameaxe innocent.
How can they be opportunistic, AND looking very town???Surye wrote:No matter how you spin it, EVERY play you've made in this game has been oppurtunistic,all of them looking very town, but often not actualy helping the town (though killing scum was nice).
What's up, Surye? You're not making sense anymore.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Wow, you're getting desperate.
See possible explanation below.DrippingGoofball wrote:
If you believe I didn't know, then why would my shooting down Dasquian implicate me with the opposing scumgroup??? I did get incredibly lucky through the thick fog of my own misunderstanding, that's for sure...Surye wrote:You didn't have to know das was scum, you may have gotten lucky.
I know who you REPORTED, not who you investigated. You could have EASILY sent in a false report.DrippingGoofball wrote:
How can you say that, when YOU KNOW who I investigated Night 0???Surye wrote:Or maybe you investigated him night 0,
I know who you REPORTED, not who you investigated. You could have EASILY sent in a false report.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Since you KNOW I was out investigating, why are you imagining that I would have killed Flameaxe?Surye wrote:killed Flameaxe, and reported flameaxe innocent.
Easy, do and say town things that are too late to be useful.DrippingGoofball wrote:
How can they be opportunistic, AND looking very town???Surye wrote:No matter how you spin it, EVERY play you've made in this game has been oppurtunistic,all of them looking very town, but often not actualy helping the town (though killing scum was nice).
You're not even trying :/DrippingGoofball wrote: What's up, Surye? You're not making sense anymore.-
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DrippingGoofBall (4): Surye, Natirasha, Celebloki, Hjallti
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Um... guys, if the reason Dasquian was shot in the first place was because he was claiming that reveals are unquestionable, why hasnobodyquestioned his reveal (given that it includes practically no evidence to indicate that he is scum, just a declaration). Could Natarisha get on this?
Also, shot in the eye is the way Moe Green went down in the Godfather.
Surye is giving DGB waaay to many powers. What kind of role can perform a kill and an investigation in the same night while completely covering its tracks? How can Surye accuse DGB of being scum for "opportunism" while completely downplaying the huge fact that she daykilled a scum (if Dasquain really is scum). That's more pro-town than just about every other player in the game even if it was accidental/opportunistic (mutually exclusive?)
That said, I think it strains credulity that DGB would not figure out that townies had free rein until now. People were acting up all over D1; what did she think was going on?Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
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I'll get on the investigation.NabakovNabakov wrote:Um... guys, if the reason Dasquian was shot in the first place was because he was claiming that reveals are unquestionable, why hasnobodyquestioned his reveal (given that it includes practically no evidence to indicate that he is scum, just a declaration). Could Natarisha get on this?
Also, shot in the eye is the way Moe Green went down in the Godfather.
Surye is giving DGB waaay to many powers. What kind of role can perform a kill and an investigation in the same night while completely covering its tracks? How can Surye accuse DGB of being scum for "opportunism" while completely downplaying the huge fact that she daykilled a scum (if Dasquain really is scum). That's more pro-town than just about every other player in the game even if it was accidental/opportunistic (mutually exclusive?)
That said, I think it strains credulity that DGB would not figure out that townies had free rein until now. People were acting up all over D1; what did she think was going on?
Look, Suyre actually is not making too much of a stretch with scum. I'm just going to open up the floodgates now with this. This is the summary to the original. I know, I made a few contradictions about this(none of them favorable to my position), but I misread. http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=11
Using this, we can see some absurd happenings. One night, both mafias and the cops all had a shootout. Before that, one of those two mafias was already doing some killing. Another night, they attempted to frame a townie. You see, we've only been using a fraction of our possible powers.
So...yeah. What Suyre's been saying could probably happen. Also, just because DGB shot Dasquian does not make it a protown action. It seemed very rash and she should have at least consulted the town with that.
However, I see armlx's logic. So I'm going to get off DGB's back for now.Unvote.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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I cannot do this. I'm sure the other investigators do not have such a choice either. I do not send the report. The report is sent by the Mod.Surye wrote:I know who you REPORTED, not who you investigated. You could have EASILY sent in a false report.
What??? What's wrong with you, Surye? If you weren't mayor, I would totally call you out for being scum.Surye wrote:
Easy, do and say town things that are too late to be useful.Surye wrote:No matter how you spin it, EVERY play you've made in this game has been oppurtunistic,all of them looking very town, but often not actualy helping the town (though killing scum was nice).DGB wrote:How can they be opportunistic, AND looking very town???Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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That's something to think about--what if we had a corrupt mayor? I mean, I highly doubt it, but it's still a possibility. I still trust Suyre 99%.DrippingGoofball wrote:
I cannot do this. I'm sure the other investigators do not have such a choice either. I do not send the report. The report is sent by the Mod.Surye wrote:I know who you REPORTED, not who you investigated. You could have EASILY sent in a false report.
What??? What's wrong with you, Surye? If you weren't mayor, I would totally call you out for being scum.Surye wrote:
Easy, do and say town things that are too late to be useful.Surye wrote:No matter how you spin it, EVERY play you've made in this game has been oppurtunistic,all of them looking very town, but often not actualy helping the town (though killing scum was nice).DGB wrote:How can they be opportunistic, AND looking very town???Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
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