Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[Vex Vience]

if we have rber, they leash a50 and we can just traitorhunt for the rest of the game

What if I'm strongman??

See? You're practically baiting me to respond this way!

ok, u get by one kill then we keep rbing u
what do u do then?

[Almost50]

if we have rber, they leash a50 and we can just traitorhunt for the rest of the game

What if I'm strongman??

See? You're practically baiting me to respond this way!

ok, u get by one kill then we keep rbing u
what do u do then?

Since we're playing chicken, what if my NK hits the RB??

[Skygazer]

A50/ruru/Creature/skitter/vex feel town imo

[Skygazer]

I've played two completed games with HWS and the only one I was shitposting in I was scum so I'm not sure where the "this feels like usual skygazer" comes from.

[Vex Vience]

if we have rber, they leash a50 and we can just traitorhunt for the rest of the game

What if I'm strongman??

See? You're practically baiting me to respond this way!

ok, u get by one kill then we keep rbing u
what do u do then?

Since we're playing chicken, what if my NK hits the RB??

ok we hang u, u flip scum
thats clearly the next logical step

[Vex Vience]

A50/ruru/Creature/skitter/vex feel town imo

explain?

[Almost50]

ok we hang u, u flip scum
thats clearly the next logical step

And we're back to square #1: What if I flip TOWN???

You see, the only flaw in your plan here is you're still thinking of me as the center of the universe (or the lead character in this drama, if you will), and while that flatters me -of course- I feel it could be a distraction to you (as well as anybody who follows you) from seeing the whole picture.

[Vex Vience]

ok we hang u, u flip scum
thats clearly the next logical step

And we're back to square #1: What if I flip TOWN???

You see, the only flaw in your plan here is you're still thinking of me as the center of the universe (or the lead character in this drama, if you will), and while that flatters me -of course- I feel it could be a distraction to you (as well as anybody who follows you) from seeing the whole picture.

not really
waiting on sky to explain reads, waiting on enigma, creature, hws, mwnn and anti to post, waiting on better reads from frank
so while i could be working on wallposts, im a bit burnt out on that so what better thing do i really have to do?

also if u flip town, im saying that u threw, by claiming mafia in the first place and then will actively refuse to talk to you ;3

[Almost50]

OK

[Vex Vience]

i mean what do u expect me to do apart from pursue a hypothetical scenario while im waiting for everyone to post?

[Almost50]

Nothing. I concede that with as many players holding back we have nothing better to do .. unless of course you wanna be Jeff Daniels and I can be Jim Carrey. No? Didn't think so, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

[ruru]

Just lynch all of them

[FrankJaeger]

Vex for what it's worth these reads are pretty rushed, and I gave a disclaimer with the vex read. But i would like to see why you're convinced he's town

*the skitter read

[FrankJaeger]

i have 102 posts (as of this one) v a50s 68 and skitters 64
something on those lines doesnt add up
also when it comes to reads when ur being asked for it, u should take ur time and think about it

we all know you have more posts. Sorry I didn't point that out.

[FrankJaeger]

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

I dunno. You're NOT using any.

Also,

IF SOMEONE CLAIMS A PR TODAY

DO NOT CC

Spoiler: Here's why:

Generally speaking, doomed scum will fake a claim to out the most dangerous PR (if exists) according to the modifications (or lack thereof) they picked. If that PR isn't in the game then there will be no CC anyway. Now let me not go into too much details and go straight to the point:

- Claiming Vigilante when a Town Vig does exist = Just shoot the claimer. If they're BP we'll deal with it on D2, but there is always a chance the Vig will kill the scum w.o. the need to out themselves.

- Claiming Bodyguard: Chances are he BG will flip sometime during the game anyway, so we will know it was a fake claim. (Actually this one "may claim if they want to", since they're dying anyway, and most probably protecting the IC, so I'll leave it to your best judgement)

- Claiming Tracker: Obviously we want results from the Tracker, and the longer they live the more reliable their results will be, so no need to eat a bullet on N1 in exchange of lynching a scumster on D1. I hope you know what to do in this case though.

- Claiming Roleblocker: Also more valuable towards the game end. Best play is to block the fake claimer thus forcing scum to use someone else to do the kill AND making them lose their modification if they have one.

- Claiming Goon Cop: This role is intended to find us at least one scum if it could. If the fake claimer is a goon (and the only one) then you should claim, but how do we know that? Best play is to try and find others (if any) and if you get shot we will know whom to lynch anyway, but if you do get a guilty on someone else then that's when you claim and you give us TWO scums instead of just one.

If you disagree with any of this, feel free to do what you will, but

please

don't discuss alternative strategies. Discussing certain details may still give your role away w.o. even the need for scum to fake claim anything.

Thanks for your attention.

2/10

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Almost50

You can't yell don't talk spec after this lol.
Your vote stinks too

[FrankJaeger]

Vex I'm not asking for a wall, but a little more than a "feeling" would be nice. the auto town read just seems confident for D1

[ofrhz]

ManWithNoName has been prodded.

[FrankJaeger]

I dunno how to explain it, but it usually gives one of them away (which is why the majority of them prefer not to engage on the issue and pretend it didn't exist).

Think about this statement for a second.

[FrankJaeger]

Still waiting on ru and a50 to talk to me

[Gamma Emerald]

Now I kind of want to lynch frank and lynch hws if he reds

GE might be designated mislynch?

lolwut
only Frank has expressed serious suspicion of me as of yet?

[Creature]

Geez, didn't think being IC would be so uninteresting.

[Creature]

maybe because I don't need to constantly do stuff to show I'm town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thing A

We're voting on vig shots

This is a good thing because:

• PRs can claim so they don't get shot (note: if you are a PR lined up to be vigged and either you're vig or feel there is a low chance of vig existing, you can and possibly should claim vt)
  
• Individuals are biased and have varying levels of competence and therefore tend to have worse reads than the majority on average
  
• More associative reads

Thing B

1. Please read this if you haven't

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... (by-Yates)

2. We're doing it starting tomorrow

And I'm policy lynching you if you don't, even if you're a cute baby monkey!

3. We're doing it right

How to pick cop/hypocop targets:

• Unlikely lynch
  
• Unlikely nightkill
  
• Useful if town
  
• Dangerous if scum
  
• Hard to read

DO NOT TRY TO LYNCH YOUR HYPO-INNO

GC can give false negatives but if you think someone is lockscum such that you will read them as scum PR or traitor despite a GC inno, you probably shouldn't be copping them which means you probably shouldn't be hypocopping them

Occasionally hypoclaiming "either I was roleblocked or I investigated a dead player" is also worthwhile as it could happen to the real GC (and scum don't know who was roleblocked anyway)

IDK about either of these
especially the latter because we may not even have cop
hypocop is used to get cop results out without the cop being outed, that way if they die by bad luck, town isn't screwed. I do at least like your awareness of roleblocking happening.

[Creature]

Someone entertain me

[Gamma Emerald]

What standards are those so we can get a little more specific

I dunno. You're NOT using any.

Also,

IF SOMEONE CLAIMS A PR TODAY

DO NOT CC

Spoiler: Here's why:

Generally speaking, doomed scum will fake a claim to out the most dangerous PR (if exists) according to the modifications (or lack thereof) they picked. If that PR isn't in the game then there will be no CC anyway. Now let me not go into too much details and go straight to the point:

- Claiming Vigilante when a Town Vig does exist = Just shoot the claimer. If they're BP we'll deal with it on D2, but there is always a chance the Vig will kill the scum w.o. the need to out themselves.

- Claiming Bodyguard: Chances are he BG will flip sometime during the game anyway, so we will know it was a fake claim. (Actually this one "may claim if they want to", since they're dying anyway, and most probably protecting the IC, so I'll leave it to your best judgement)

- Claiming Tracker: Obviously we want results from the Tracker, and the longer they live the more reliable their results will be, so no need to eat a bullet on N1 in exchange of lynching a scumster on D1. I hope you know what to do in this case though.

- Claiming Roleblocker: Also more valuable towards the game end. Best play is to block the fake claimer thus forcing scum to use someone else to do the kill AND making them lose their modification if they have one.

- Claiming Goon Cop: This role is intended to find us at least one scum if it could. If the fake claimer is a goon (and the only one) then you should claim, but how do we know that? Best play is to try and find others (if any) and if you get shot we will know whom to lynch anyway, but if you do get a guilty on someone else then that's when you claim and you give us TWO scums instead of just one.

If you disagree with any of this, feel free to do what you will, but

please

don't discuss alternative strategies. Discussing certain details may still give your role away w.o. even the need for scum to fake claim anything.

Thanks for your attention.

2/10

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Almost50

You can't yell don't talk spec after this lol.
Your vote stinks too

I think the analysis works fine