Open 734: Paris Mafia (13-player variation) - Game Over

[Almost50]

look at the effort Lane is putting into defending himself.

I don't see it. All I see him doing is arguing with Thor and ONLY Thor.

[Fink]

I had them linked together as early as the top of page 2
...
So, I think I had a "semi-conviction" that the two are of the same alignment way before I decided Sesq was a Mime because of the way she fought (or rather didn't) against her wagon. They're like "interchangeable". If X is Mime then Y is Mime where X is either and Y is the other in no particular preference.

None of this addresses what I'm saying though.

1. You have a mimeread on Sesq.
2. You have a read on Lane that Lane is the same alignment as Sesq.

Are those correct?

Because if so, that should make your mimeread on Lane at least a bit less strong than your mimeread on Sesq. Assuming your reads are not 100% accurate (and no one's are), you have 2 reads that could potentially be wrong, even if you're confident on them, to get to MimeLane. You have one read to get to MimeSesq.

This should relevant to your decisionmaking.

PPE: well I guess this wasn't needed

[Almost50]

Sesq would be more likely to get lynched if the Lane wagon goes nowhere.

Which is a win-win for them in the foreseen future. Whichever of them gets lynched in 50% of the job done.

[lane0168]

So, my vote now decides which of the MIMES is the counter wagon to mine!

For all practical purposes it's all the same to me since I believe them both to be Mimes, so I'll wait for one more vote on either to decide where my vote should be.

Your reads are equally strong? I thought your mimeread on Lane was just based on interactions with Sesq. If that's true, that ought to be a weaker read since we don't have a Sesq flip.

I had them linked together as early as the top of page 2:

Sesq is good scumm but she hasn't yet done anything scummy (well, a far fetched idea is that she is scum with lane and they're distancing already).

I was "more to it" on page 8:

Anyway, having thought it over..

IF

lane flips Mime, Sesq would be his likely p. I don't trust their cross voting of each other and I could see that as coming from a Mime team (obviously to get half the job done) or from a Scum team (merely distancing).

So, I think I had a "semi-conviction" that the two are of the same alignment way before I decided Sesq was a Mime because of the way she fought (or rather didn't) against her wagon. They're like "interchangeable". If X is Mime then Y is Mime where X is either and Y is the other in no particular preference.

As much as I despise this train of thought and argument, look at the effort Lane is putting into defending himself.

This reads more like "Scum caught for the wrong reasons" flailing than "Oh yeah, I WANT to be lynched but need to disguise that". The frustration is real. Funny, but real. Therefore, Lane is probably not a mime. So vote him.

The hell are you talking about? I don't care about the votes. I'm arguing with Thor specifically who is being shady as f , if you cared to actually read what was going on.

[lane0168]

look at the effort Lane is putting into defending himself.

I don't see it. All I see him doing is arguing with Thor and ONLY Thor.

YES! thank you for paying attention

[Jingle]

Nope, but you're damn close.

I'm saying that you scumreading me for 'suboptimal setup spec' is just as bullshit as townreading me for 'optimal setup spec'. Which is why, had you expressed a scumread on me when I queued it up for you, I would have immediately dropped the line of questioning and assumed you were town. The fact that you didn't showed more concern for how you were seen than what you were seeing, and is why I'm still pretty sure on you being scum.

[lane0168]

If Lane is mimebuddies with sesq, why flail so hard? Sesq would be more likely to get lynched if the Lane wagon goes nowhere.

Either
Lane is mime but not with Sesq
Lane is mafia and wants that sweet sweet mime wine (in front of us)

I feel even better about this vote now.

You too? What flailing are are talking about?

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

lane0168 - 5 - Fink, Jingle, Thor665, Eragon, Almost50
Almost50 - 4 - Nero Cain, RockyHorror, Sesq, lane0168
Sesq - 3 - innocentvillager, GuiltyLion, FA_Q2

Not Voting - Aristophanes

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline is Sunday September 2 at 10pm EST

[Eragon]

claim at L-2?

or L-1...

i mean we only have ~5 hours left

[Jingle]

look at the effort Lane is putting into defending himself.

I don't see it. All I see him doing is arguing with Thor and ONLY Thor.

YES! thank you for paying attention

I had a sudden and aggressive urge to make a meme alt named ONLY Thor and ask kmd to replace this slot with that player. I'm not going to, because I have too many alts as it is, but I felt like sharing.

[lane0168]

@fink... Can you give me a summary of my flailing?

@jingle... Same question

Because if you aren't reading what's bring written, you're doing us all a disservice

[Fink]

As long as we're sharing dumb ideas, I wasted a bunch of time looking at cat gifs earlier thinking that might be a more productive way to get Eragon on the cool kids' wagon than actual reasoning.

Spoiler: cats

[Eragon]

As long as we're sharing dumb ideas, I wasted a bunch of time looking at cat gifs earlier thinking that might be a more productive way to get Eragon on the cool kids' wagon than actual reasoning.

Spoiler: cats

sold.

(except i was on the lane wagon already )

[Fink]

@thor your asking what my vote does?

Shows who I think is scum

I get the impression that eragon had this long elaborate response typed up, then got concerned about how it would look, deleted it, and came up with this.

Disregard this

What were you thinking when you said it and why aren't you thinking it anymore?

I was thinking what I said when I said it, but doing an iso and seeing the whole picture, I really don't think eragon is scum

Eragon: Yeah I meant I still had that in an open tab from before you voted.

Lane: All these recent posts, the quoting a million things Thor says and still saying basically nothing while walling the shit out of the thread with quote boxes.

[Jingle]

claim at L-2?

or L-1...

i mean we only have ~5 hours left

I mean... If we want claims at all they should be PR/Not PR and done at L-1. Doing them at L-2 is playing around mimes, which... There aren't words.

[FA_Q2]

VOTE: lane

[Fink]

I say, posting a bunch of nested quotes that have nothing to do with that post.

Regarding the quote above, Lane was scumreading Eragon because he interpreted that post in the way he did because he was scumreading Eragon, but when he stopped scumreading Eragon he didn't think his reason to scumread Eragon was valid.

It's circular and weird and I haven't been sure how to explain my issue with it but I've been meaning to get to it.

[Eragon]

@thor your asking what my vote does?

Shows who I think is scum

I get the impression that eragon had this long elaborate response typed up, then got concerned about how it would look, deleted it, and came up with this.

Disregard this

What were you thinking when you said it and why aren't you thinking it anymore?

I was thinking what I said when I said it, but doing an iso and seeing the whole picture, I really don't think eragon is scum

Eragon: Yeah I meant I still had that in an open tab from before you voted.

Lane: All these recent posts, the quoting a million things Thor says and still saying basically nothing while walling the shit out of the thread with quote boxes.

ahh i see...
either way you have me pocketed forevah

claim at L-2?

or L-1...

i mean we only have ~5 hours left

I mean... If we want claims at all they should be PR/Not PR and done at L-1. Doing them at L-2 is playing around mimes, which... There aren't words.

ok then.

p-edit: welp, thats L-1

[FA_Q2]

L-1

I can get behind lane lynch. his def was rather lackluster and I am not sold on A50. My TR are all there as well (thor/jingle)

A50 is null for now. Sesq is more likely to be a mime than lane as well.

[Jingle]

Lane, you gonna self hammer and give A50 a heart attack?

[lane0168]

@thor your asking what my vote does?

Shows who I think is scum

I get the impression that eragon had this long elaborate response typed up, then got concerned about how it would look, deleted it, and came up with this.

Disregard this

What were you thinking when you said it and why aren't you thinking it anymore?

I was thinking what I said when I said it, but doing an iso and seeing the whole picture, I really don't think eragon is scum

Eragon: Yeah I meant I still had that in an open tab from before you voted.

Lane: All these recent posts, the quoting a million things Thor says and still saying basically nothing while walling the shit out of the thread with quote boxes.

Right, so basically you're telling me you didn't take the time to read it and are disregarding it as flailing. Sweet. Thanks.

[lane0168]

I say, posting a bunch of nested quotes that have nothing to do with that post.

Regarding the quote above, Lane was scumreading Eragon because he interpreted that post in the way he did because he was scumreading Eragon, but when he stopped scumreading Eragon he didn't think his reason to scumread Eragon was valid.

It's circular and weird and I haven't been sure how to explain my issue with it but I've been meaning to get to it.

I thought I explained this. I was catching up on mobile. I noted something that was off to me by itself. But doing the iso gave me no reason to believe eragon was scum.

[lane0168]

Lane, you gonna self hammer and give A50 a heart attack?

Yes

VOTE: lane

[lane0168]

Thor and a50 though. You heard it here first.

[Jingle]

See you in the dead thread on D3.