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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:10 am

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VOTE COUNT 1.9
Almost50 (3):
Antihero, Gamma Emerald, FrankJaeger
HeWhoSwims (1):
ceejayvinoya
Skygazer (1):
ruru
ruru (0):

Antihero (0):

ceejayvinoya (0):

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Creature
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Almost50, Vex Vience, skitter30
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Skygazer, Enigma

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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:48 am

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In post 590, ruru wrote:the slots that I'm most interested in right now (hws/sky/cjv) are all afk

well I guess I'm interested in this: how are you reading frank/hws/sky/antihero/enigma?
scumlean / null / scummy side of null / townie side of null / townlean

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In post 586, ruru wrote:This is as far as I can tell you undermining your own reads in a general sense and saying you categorically shouldn't be boped
idk, that's just kinda his personality i think

the first time i played with him - two stack-the-decks ago - he called himself a 'bad guy' on like page 4, which got taken by several people to be a traitor claim / signalling thing; he was actually softing bg (Bad Guy) and decided to fullclaim a page later

he was in fact a town bg who confusingly protected a guy who was vig shot *and* nk'd the same night; it led to much mechanical confusion

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In post 595, Skygazer wrote:Oh no!
HURT: sky

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In post 597, ceejayvinoya wrote:Hi! :P

I'll get to this when I come home from school.

That's in about 5 to 6 hours.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:13 am

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In post 597, ceejayvinoya wrote:Hi! :P

I'll get to this when I come home from school.

That's in about 5 to 6 hours.
Did you mean 5 >times< 6??

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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:32 am

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a50 what are your thoughts on sky ellitelling
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:41 am

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In post 601, skitter30 wrote:
In post 595, Skygazer wrote:Oh no!
HURT: sky
do you disagree that sky has high bp equity?
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 603, ruru wrote:a50 what are your thoughts on sky ellitelling
I wasn't actually aware of her overall site activity, but I'll take your word for it. I'll even disregard my own "skewed perception of the avatar thing". I don't see why precisely BP though. In fact, if we assume (1) Sky is indeed Mafia and (2) is one of the two originals and (3) has chosen a "personal" modifier (i.e. aside from Daytalk and/or recruit Traitor) I think she would go for Role Cop as her preferred choice followed by JOAT. (At least that's how I conceive her as a player in general.. a bit more daring as opposed as defensive)

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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:40 am

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Not familiar with the term ellitelling, but googling finds this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ellibereth

Just to understand, by ellitell - do you mean that Sky is possible scum here because of her lurking here, and higher rates of activity in other game?
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:44 am

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By bp here I mean in general a player who is acting jestery and has high bp/traitor equity

my vote on frank was 70% policy and 30% scumread and I think sky ellitelling is probably much more scum-indicative

like I think sky's more likely to be any given scum role including bp/traitor just by nature of being more likely to be scum
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:45 am

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yes
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:54 am

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UNVOTE:
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:24 am

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Been through the first five pages. Vex is town.

I think Sky might be scum.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:07 am

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10 pages in.

Enigma is townie to me. Maybe skitter as well.

Dunno what to think of frank
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:09 am

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I'll read the rest later.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:32 am

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In post 595, Skygazer wrote:Oh no!
i dont like this
still like frank for lynch
HURT: sky
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 610, ceejayvinoya wrote:Been through the first five pages. Vex is town.

I think Sky might be scum.
In post 611, ceejayvinoya wrote:10 pages in.

Enigma is townie to me. Maybe skitter as well.

Dunno what to think of frank
If you don't mind me asking, are you giving us your reads ot just what we want to hear (well, at least some of us)?
Can we get a peek into why you formed your reads? And why haven't you decided on others who were active through the first 10 pages?

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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:47 am

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In post 604, ruru wrote:
In post 601, skitter30 wrote:
In post 595, Skygazer wrote:Oh no!
HURT: sky
do you disagree that sky has high bp equity?
i don't know if a vig exists, a traitor exists, or if a bp-goon exists so overall bp-equity-ness is not something i'm overthinking too much

also i think baiting a vig shot as bp-goon is dumb, and if she were the traitor i think she kinda got her point across in rvs so i don't know why she'd continue behaving in that jester-y fashion as you call it

i think she's scummy, but more in a passive sense while frank is like actively scummy. frank is number one on my flip-list so i'm voting him
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:52 am

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In post 596, ruru wrote:Actually how about this

VOTE: Skygazer
HURT: Frank

ellitell and frank needs to die but sky is more likely to be bp I think
Who are you calling ellitell on
If it's mwnn then you may have something since last time someone call that on him they were right
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 603, ruru wrote:a50 what are your thoughts on sky ellitelling
Ok how did sky ellitell
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:54 am

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Nvm
I can get behind the analysis presented rn
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:27 pm

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In post 615, skitter30 wrote:i don't know if a vig exists, a traitor exists, or if a bp-goon exists so overall bp-equity-ness is not something i'm overthinking too much

also i think baiting a vig shot as bp-goon is dumb, and if she were the traitor i think she kinda got her point across in rvs so i don't know why she'd continue behaving in that jester-y fashion as you call it

i think she's scummy, but more in a passive sense while frank is like actively scummy. frank is number one on my flip-list so i'm voting him
Frank is like never making endgame regardless of whether a vig exists

Do you actually think frank has higher bp equity than sky or do you just think my plan is stupid?
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:34 pm

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not sure if picking up multiple prods on site and off site counts as active elsewhere but okay
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:42 pm

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In post 619, ruru wrote:Frank is like never making endgame regardless of whether a vig exists

Do you actually think frank has higher bp equity than sky or do you just think my plan is stupid?
i don't really process this in terms of bp-equity tbh; i'm not even sure what a likely-to-be-bp tell would look like in this context tbh. maybe being bravado-y in hte face of getting vigged?

like i don't know if a bp or vig even exists so searching for likely-to-be-bp tells just isn't how i'm processing this game

i think they're both scummy; frank actively so (ie his posting is scummy) and sky passively so (ie her early posting was bad - in RVS - and her content after that has kinda dropped off both in quantity and quality). frank i think is worse so i want to flip him first

that's the best way i know how to answer that question
In post 620, Skygazer wrote:not sure if picking up multiple prods on site and off site counts as active elsewhere but okay
i'm not really voting you for the ellitell; i hadn't really checked your overall site activity or anything

more like the only thing you had to say upon being prodded was 'oh no'
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:53 pm

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How highly do you rate ellitell in general?
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:56 pm

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@GE
In post 590, ruru wrote:the slots that I'm most interested in right now (hws/sky/cjv) are all afk

well I guess I'm interested in this: how are you reading frank/hws/sky/antihero/enigma?
I'm actually pretty interested in your answer here
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:22 pm

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In post 622, ruru wrote:How highly do you rate ellitell in general?
in a general sense, like medium strongly, but i also think it's very player and context specific - like does the player in question like playing scum, whether or the game in question is active or slogging, etc

i don't know sky well enough to know whether or not she likes playing scum

i dislike more that the only thing she had to say upon being prodded was 'on no' instead of providing game-related content at that point

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