Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[profii]

Scum lurking ?

[Flavor Leaf]

I have half a mind to confirm your theory

*facepalm*

Okay... so the only way to 'confirm my theory' would been to claim cop or gunsmith, Which if I'm reading that correctly you just did despite my repeated warnings not to. So... I revealed 3 of our PR's to reds on the first day... without trying to on the first account and after explicitly and clearly asking people not to on the second account..

I have an annoying playstyle. it’s very possible I’m just a 1 shot BP.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have half a mind to confirm your theory

*facepalm*

Okay... so the only way to 'confirm my theory' would been to claim cop or gunsmith, Which if I'm reading that correctly you just did despite my repeated warnings not to. So... I revealed 3 of our PR's to reds on the first day... without trying to on the first account and after explicitly and clearly asking people not to on the second account..

check meta

Lol, <3 Profii.

[profii]

I have half a mind to confirm your theory

*facepalm*

Okay... so the only way to 'confirm my theory' would been to claim cop or gunsmith, Which if I'm reading that correctly you just did despite my repeated warnings not to. So... I revealed 3 of our PR's to reds on the first day... without trying to on the first account and after explicitly and clearly asking people not to on the second account..

I have an annoying playstyle. it’s very possible I’m just a 1 shot BP.

Typical Flavor :p

[Saudade]

as to my previous statement
VOTE: FrankJaeger
congratulations

Flavor read @ Frank's iso
tell me what you think there

[Saudade]

profii you can read too since you are here

[Doughboy]

Claiming PR in the beginning of day one is anti town

Neighbours.... debateable

Neighbor isn’t a Power role. It’s a glorified vt. It has no actual power and serves no purpose other than to create paranoia. I’m paranoid enough as town don’t need extra things to screw with me.

That said I do apologize to the mod. I’m sure they think it’s a useful role and I’ve probably ruined an aspect of their game design by outing myself, but to be fair it’s really Krazy’s fault.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm not Crimson, but I feel like expecting Crimson to answer that question before Manatee gives a response would defeat the purpose of Crimson pushing Manatee in the first place.

scummiest post

VOTE: light ethos

I’d like a little more here, I feel. I’m in catchup mode right now.

Getting to the most current posts now.

[Saudade]

There wasn't much except me confirming doughnut as town

[Saudade]

Pretty sure if I read Light Ethos it'll have a similar iso to Franks

[profii]

as to my previous statement
VOTE: FrankJaeger
congratulations

Flavor read @ Frank's iso
tell me what you think there

Good call

[Saudade]

Light Ethos only 2 posts theres nothing to read there

[profii]

Scum lurking ?

I'm not Crimson, but I feel like expecting Crimson to answer that question before Manatee gives a response would defeat the purpose of Crimson pushing Manatee in the first place.

scummiest post

VOTE: light ethos

I’d like a little more here, I feel. I’m in catchup mode right now.

Getting to the most current posts now.

avoiding contributing

[Saudade]

as to my previous statement
VOTE: FrankJaeger
congratulations

Flavor read @ Frank's iso
tell me what you think there

Good call

if its a good call put a vote on it =]

[Flavor Leaf]

as to my previous statement
VOTE: FrankJaeger
congratulations

Flavor read @ Frank's iso
tell me what you think there

I liked Frank up until he voted you.

I don’t see how people are red’ing your reactions.
Actually, I do. It’s tone, but I don’t think it’s a scummy reaction, people just think it’s red without analyzing it.

Frank took an early early stance on TvT Naomi vs Leaf, which can be scummy, but I talked about the preventing a lynch rather than helping push one or another.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Doughboy - I like neighborhoods. i think they’re fun. The paranoia it gives to townies, the beneficial pocketing scum can do and then, and the strength of them if you can town read your neighborhood buddies is really quite cool.

[Saudade]

who are you voting right now Flavor?

[Saudade]

Oh Naomi, bad vote.
switch to Frank

[Saudade]

Lets get some proper pressure going this is page 12 already

[profii]

How come

I just want to shake him a bit. Manatee is difficult to read because he's scummy as both town and scum.

Can you explain this a little more?

1)He doesnt explain how "shaking him a bit" would help differentiate townmanatee vs scummanatee.

2) how is it particularly useful here, when by his words, "hes scummy as both town and scum"?

I would just like an elaboration.

@Saudade

How was the statement clear? Im not saying it was necessarily scummy, but it left alot to be desired.

what it seemed obvious to me is that he's voted his fellow man in order to get him to express himself more, because the player is known (to him) to exhibit scum traits as either alignment so he would need extra info/data from him through self expression to make a more accurate decision on whether hes scum or town.

This...doesnt explain anything.

Absolutely does!!!

Doughboi, flavor flav town pile.

Krazy too I guess just for the neighbor thing.

W K!

so nobody else is going to vote Krazy?

Can somebody explain why town Krazy asks that as his first game related question? He could have literally asked anything else. What am I missing?

Hes a neighbor, which im guessing has a higher chance if being town?.

Not really alot of content to go from, and I feel unless he does more to look scummy, its smarter to focus elsewhere.
I understand your perspective, if that helps lol.

Alarm bells!

Why does him being neighbor make him a higher chance of being town? My experience with neighbors is there is always one scum. Though I’m used to 3 people. Like why not just do masons if we are both town? This is a normal game right? I feel like neighbors with both town is kindness of trickery.

Anyways. I’ll leave my vote on him for now. I don’t see much from him in the game so far. At best he’s null

No I agree, but at least 1 of you is town, and im staying away from it.
I actually thought about the mason thing, and i think it hints there may be other neighborhoods.

But i suck at set up spec and generally try to stay away from that too.

TMI?

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually think Naomi is scum, though. Rather strong scum, she just didn’t expect me to be able to fight back.

The fact no one joined in actually lends me to believe she’s scum even more, which i could see Frank also fitting the bill as being a scum who helped derail it in that case, actually...

That’s a pre flip, though

[Saudade]

So far I think that you and Naomi just had a miscommunication, she misunderstood your interaction with me.
I could be wrong but she didn't ping me so far

[Light Ethos]

Still in the midst of reading what happened yesterday evening, but so far I'm leaning town on FlavorLeaf for the emphatic, well-substantiated defense halfway through the thread. Scum would do this too, but my gut tells me it's town. I also town-read Naomi-Tan for Post #95. I have Saudade as town-lean for Post #199.

I lean scum on Krazy for fishing for power-roles in the Neighborhood chat according to Dough and Crimson. I don't see how that would be more beneficial for town to know than for mafia to know, and Neighbors aren't any more likely to be town than scum unless the Mod decides that they are. Maybe it really was just an attempt to break the ice, as Krazy claims. I don't think that question is a good way to go about breaking the ice. There is also asymmetry between joking about asking if someone is a power role and joking about asking if someone is mafia. Nobody is going to answer yes to the second question. It's unlikely, but there is a nonzero chance of someone answering yes to the first. This really rubs me the wrong way.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Krazy

Full-disclosure: I am still somewhat new to Mafia, so I may have misinterpreted the interactions I linked.

[Light Ethos]

So far I think that you and Naomi just had a miscommunication, she misunderstood your interaction with me.
I could be wrong but she didn't ping me so far

This is my take on that too.

[Saudade]

Krazy vote is a good one too. Not as good as a Frank vote, but it's up there.