Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[ruru]

I meant besides you

[the worst]

oops I hard townread Antihero's early ISO
Read tentatively redacted

[skitter30]

skitter what do you think of ceejay?

has anyone else played with him before?

~nullscum-ish

i don't really actively scumread him so much as passively - like i don't really townread him and i have a lot of townreads so he's scummier than average because mwnn idn't do anything and i'm kinda like thorougly underwhelmed by cj's catchup thus far and the fact that he isn't really interacting with anything

i think tw's vote is decent; would rather it be on frank tho

i've one completed game with cj; he bussed wolf!ap and coasted on that through most of the game; i caught him in mylo in jungle republic; nobody would vote him with me and i'm still kinda annoyed about that game

i don't know if i can meta him particularly well tho

[the worst]

I'll vote Frank if his lynch will help you crack the game open

[the worst]

MWNN disengagement with the game/inability to keep up/focusing on real life and giving nothing away is >>>>rand scum indicative btw

CJV's catch-up is pingy in general and also more likely to come from scum!cjv

[skitter30]

brass kinda site-flaked tho i think

i don't know if it's indicative for this game in particular

i do agree that cj's catchup is underwhelming

[ruru]

I guess what I'm trying to understand is if it's normal for cj or not like I thought he has a lynchbaity meta and always lurks?

so I'm wondering what produces that kind of confidence in reading him

[the worst]

I'm not gonna talk about what I'm looking for from a meta pov obviously but he's on notice

Enigma is proving really conflicting to read. gutscum headtown, I'm swinging town here too atm

pedit: being lynchbaity and lurking are two very situational tells and are great ways to lose games, look at Q3 2018 scum!Creature lol

[skitter30]

I guess what I'm trying to understand is if it's normal for cj or not like I thought he has a lynchbaity meta and always lurks?

so I'm wondering what produces that kind of confidence in reading him

yeah that's kinda point; i'm not super confident i can read him; at least part of the reason i caught him last time was on associatives + poe

don't feel super confident reading him either way right now but kinda erring to nullscum if that makes sense

[ruru]

about the confidence I was referring to tw

[ruru]

wait I actually misread his post I think

[ruru]

VOTE: ceejayvinoya
if I'm wrong on this blow my mind, friend

I guess this is "ceejay needs to post" not "ceejay is obvscum"?

[the worst]

That'd be an "heavy enough FOS that I'm currently fine if it leads to your lynch"

[the worst]

ok idk any of u but i did some theorizing pregame
mafia likely took two modifiers pregame, joat and daytalk meaning we have at most 4 townprs.

vex is probably town thru sheer post count (my eyes are bleeding) but if he is scum the scumteam stinks

too much conviction in an insanely bad choice of powers

[HeWhoSwims]

Ohmygod of course you're here

Ruru yes I thought a51 could be bp after the debacle

-town50 doesn't gain anything or am I wrong there? Only a vig bullet if present?
-scum50 would use it as wifom material.

Correct or nah
I'll try and read up

[ruru]

That was supposed to be a sorting question but since ~everyone apparently has this misconception I'm not going to scumread you for it:

if we suspect someone of being bp, it should

always

be resolved with a lynch and not a vig shot

the vig shot doesn't have any investigative utility because if someone is town they're just going to die.

[Vex Vience]

skitter what do you think of ceejay?

has anyone else played with him before?

i modded donner party which had ceejay in it.
otherwise, afaik, ive never played with ceejay

only people ive played with was skitter, a50, buj, and im pretty sure gamma at some point
ive modded games (or am modding games) with almost, frank, and gamma

as for the list, i need to post it later today, (~7hrs) as well as think about it a bit more deeply

ok idk any of u but i did some theorizing pregame
mafia likely took two modifiers pregame, joat and daytalk meaning we have at most 4 townprs.

vex is probably town thru sheer post count (my eyes are bleeding) but if he is scum the scumteam stinks

too much conviction in an insanely bad choice of powers

have... have you even read any of my more recent posts...? namely the walls...?

Ohmygod of course you're here

Ruru yes I thought a51 could be bp after the debacle

-town50 doesn't gain anything or am I wrong there? Only a vig bullet if present?
-scum50 would use it as wifom material.

Correct or nah
I'll try and read up

can you eli5 this post for me?
im not sure what you're getting at entirely

[ruru]

Ohmygod of course you're here

Ruru yes I thought a51 could be bp after the debacle

-town50 doesn't gain anything or am I wrong there? Only a vig bullet if present?
-scum50 would use it as wifom material.

Correct or nah
I'll try and read up

also to answer your question I doubt he was looking for anything other than reactions

[HeWhoSwims]

I know a vig shot would be wasted.

Do you not understand the post or is it the reasoning that you need ELI5'd?

[Enigma]

Ohhhhhh when I opened this game I thought I was reading another thread when the fluffiness and yellowness of duckling appeared - hiii duck quack quack page tops belong to me in the game btw

[Creature]

I need something

There are no new games starting.

[Vex Vience]

I know a vig shot would be wasted.

Do you not understand the post or is it the reasoning that you need ELI5'd?

both

also, working on case on {hws, monkey-boye, ruru, ceejay and ge} rn.

I need something

There are no new games starting.

i would say go join bad cop, insane cop, but i just pulled it and replaced it with GIM

[Creature]

Getting coldfeet about lynching Frank.

[Creature]

Should we try elsewhere?

[Vex Vience]

@vex ye that was my thought too; remind me after the game then

will do

okay, I see what you mean about groupscum being a more valuable kill (I'm not sure yet if I agree) but even if that's the case we can lynch sky d2 and vig someone else

shooting someone you think is traitor is like 100% wrong.

i mean, odds are we can find another mafia sure, but the bigger chance is that we kill off town
id rather take the safe vig shot, and see if sky dies

I would vig enigma lmao but seriously.

Can post more replies when off of work tomorrow.

why enigma?

@vex ye that was my thought too; remind me after the game then

I don't think Sky's replace out was actually tactical.

why not?

ok can you explain why B would tip the read down to nullscum than?

He isnt my biggest scum read. More null scum based of his interactions with me mostly

basically i was kinda confused how immediately after the rushed readslist thing you had him as nullscum? like in that scenario i think i would view someone as either:

-> scum who was making someone up to mislynch me

-> townie who was very convinced but very wrong

like i feel like i would have a strong opinion either way; i don't really understand how that argument would make you scumread someone enough to drop the townread but not enough to fully scumread them? like it's a weird middle-ground that doesn't fully make sense to me

(hints: its still the second option)

ok can you explain why B would tip the read down to nullscum than?

He isnt my biggest scum read. More null scum based of his interactions with me mostly

basically i was kinda confused how immediately after the rushed readslist thing you had him as nullscum? like in that scenario i think i would view someone as either:

-> scum who was making someone up to mislynch me

-> townie who was very convinced but very wrong

like i feel like i would have a strong opinion either way; i don't really understand how that argument would make you scumread someone enough to drop the townread but not enough to fully scumread them? like it's a weird middle-ground that doesn't fully make sense to me

Tried to be open minded, so his reasons weren't bad at first. Like he was kinda scummy in my eyes because I know im town, but the fact my phone error is what he wanted to stick with and push so hard just looks very scummy in the end.

you also still havent really explained why the creature wall post is anti-town, nor given me really any reasons to tr you

I WAS NOT INFORMED HOW LONG THIS IS

who's gonna give me a tl;dr version?

tl;dr

Spoiler:

creature is confirmed town
im basically confirmed town
monkey-boye claimed bp and said it was reaction-testing
frank is scum
you replaced into a scummy slot that we wanna vig
a lot of players have been lurking
im also an alt of korina

that about sums it up

pedit: im still fairly certain frank is scum
we need to hang someone by eod regardless
rather have it be someone we all scumread