Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[ruru]

that wasn't meaning to contradict you although it probably sounded like it

[Almost50]

CJV+AP as Werewolves
Also found This (where we both were town) and is actually the game Korina was referring to earlier.

[skitter30]

Almost50 (3): BuJaber, Gamma Emerald, FrankJaeger

yes but the fact that i don't townread any of the four of them is not a good sign, whereas i townread literally everyone on the a50 one

[the worst]

Not sure how long Buj has been voting for A50 though. Antihero's A50 reaction/case struck me as pretty towny.

[Almost50]

skitter what do you think of ceejay?

has anyone else played with him before?

many many times hahaha, MWNN and CJV are both buds.

Which of them is Bud Abbott? And I reckon the other is Budweiser?? Unless you've been to Budapest!

[the worst]

Thank you ofrhz

Hello

I will catchup fully probably during the weekend.

Based on first 5 pages: vex, skitter, skygazer and young man A29 are town. Hewhoswims and Enigma are scum.

I don't normally replace people so this is new to me enjoy my tease. More to come.

lol it's a lingering vote from his pred
I don't mind Buj's slot compared to GEm & FraJa

[the worst]

@A50 I'm ALWAYS the Budweiser, you guys can fight over the non alcoholic ones.

my dad was actually in Budapest last week lol, should've smuggled me in. Rude

[Almost50]

I want to move my vote off A50 but I don't recall him responding to my actually presentation of the game that should counter his philosophy about how scum interact with ICs

OK.. so maybe not Scum!Gamma?? I really am not too sure yet. Say, why aren't you doing anything besides concentrate on me? I want to see you play the game with others as well so I can finally decide on you with some sort of confidence. (If you're town that helps both of us)

[Almost50]

@vex I've skimmed your walls, they're fine

I'll do a proper full read when I'm in the mood to

VOTE: ceejay

Oh, damn! I'll understand if I'm still SR'd after CJV flips red. I

promise

I had not read this before I voted him earlier.

[the worst]

Frank early posting is p sketchy
He's casing lynches not casing alignments

biggest ping: he states very few townreads then proceeds to more or less ignore them. feels more like he's tryna trip up his scumreads


this is half playstyle pingy stuff tho I kinda wanna see content from him that isn't crap before I have a stronger read his take on A50's setup spec and read on antihero + sheeping him onto the wagon is kinda slightly more likely to come from town I think

either way if I had to pick I'd still call Buj slot town / FraJa scum before I'd call the other way around or s/s. there's probably 1-2 town in here.

[the worst]

Creature is obviously the scum on the cjv wagon

[the worst]

oh nice

you guys ready to see some real shit?

@FRAJA - what is your read on CJV?! please case a little for me

[the worst]

if anyone can answer for him please go wild

[Almost50]

I;m FINALLY done with catching up, and I can go hit the hay with a clear conscience.

[Vex Vience]

waiting on vc to vote
we all know im really bad at counting + rather not cut day early while we have questions still

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 1.16

Almost50 (3):

BuJaber, Gamma Emerald, FrankJaeger

HeWhoSwims (0):

the worst (0):

ruru (0):

BuJaber (0):

ceejayvinoya (5):

the worst, Creature, Almost50, ruru, skitter30

(L-2)

Enigma (0):

FrankJaeger (2):

Vex Vience, Enigma

Creature (0):

Gamma Emerald (1):

HeWhoSwims

skitter30 (0):

Vex Vience (0):

Not Voting (1):

ceejayvinoya

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-09-10 09:40:00)

Other

:
- skitter30 V/LA Fridays and Saturdays
- HeWhoSwims V/LA until Friday 9/7

[Vex Vience]

VOTE: Ceejay
HURT: Frank

ok, ready to end the day

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[Vex Vience]

why unvote?

[Creature]

I don't want to end the day rn

[Vex Vience]

ah, my thought process is that we could safely leave ceejay at l-1.
town wouldnt be able to hammer this and get away with it, only because the votecount was already posted
scum wouldnt be able to hammer because, well, they'd get auto-hung/auto-vig'd if they quickhammered this.

[Creature]

Your post feels like an invite for hammer.

[the worst]

I feel like you're way less likely to die tonight Creature fwiw

[Vex Vience]

Your post feels like an invite for hammer.

if it is, then that wasnt my intention.
im starting to get burnt out from d1 dragging on this long like ive said.

[Vex Vience]

@creature

Spoiler: hws

like ive been saying on hws, i cant really read him
he doesnt have a whole lot of content for me to judge
im not for meta-arguments, (barring the case on sky, which was more applying my logic to why i lurk as scum rather than me arguing from meta).

looking at his posts in general, theres not a lot to go off of
im kinda liking some of his posts, but most of them are revolving around me from what i can see

rn, hes still hardnull for me, only because theres still not a lot for me to read and get a handle on

Spoiler: monkey-boye

(hope you dont mind me calling you monkey-boye, monkey-boye :p)

looking at a50s iso, and the game i modded with him, and md's game, i actually kinda lean more towards his townplay rather than his scumplay

while i do still agree, him claiming mafia bp is scummy (as well as the selfvote), i feel like he's more town than scum.
his posts seem directed towards gamesolving and the ap/a50 posting tone seems more towards town in this game IMO

Spoiler: ruru

theres a few posts from ruru that ping me here and there
the early part of her iso feels fine, its just the parts of the later iso feel off...

okay, I see what you mean about groupscum being a more valuable kill (I'm not sure yet if I agree) but even if that's the case we can lynch sky d2 and vig someone else

shooting someone you think is traitor is like 100% wrong.

this is one that feels off to me, not because of burnout, but just because it doesnt seem right
killing off groupscum is much better to do, because if they didnt recruit traitor, theres two disconnected mafia

this game feels like a loss.

this post im not sure what to make of. it feels weird to me to just say this

what makes you think frank is definitely scum and not just badtown

again, this post just feels off, why wouldnt ruru bring this up earlier, why only bring it up now?

That was supposed to be a sorting question but since ~everyone apparently has this misconception I'm not going to scumread you for it:

if we suspect someone of being bp, it should

always

be resolved with a lynch and not a vig shot

the vig shot doesn't have any investigative utility because if someone is town they're just going to die.

also, vig shot does have investigative utility:
player doesnt die: bp / traitor, meaning 100% of the time, they are scum
player does die: anything else

i kinda feel like ruru is leaning a bit more towards scum with the recent posts in question, but i still think ruru is townie for now

Spoiler: ceejay

cj's posting so far just feels weird to me
a majority of his reads thus far, (the hws, anti/buj, sky/tw, frank and gamma reads), all feel really safe to me.
they don't feel very committal, and feel like an easy out
i dont see town motive behind that really
i think town is more likely to take a hard stance on reads, not the lazy, non-committal ones

i agree that ceejay is scum here

Spoiler: gamma

gamma feels weird to me
im not sure what to make of their opposition to rurus plan, and then defending frank mostly the entire time just feels off to me
i agree that frank is scum, but why would gamma then defend frank?

gamma's fake frustration from earlier also doesn't really make me inclined to tr him.

Sky's entrance to the game is alarming. Everything she said so far "could" be interpreted as a mere joke. However -in my experience- joking about lynching the IC always comes from scum. And her last post/joke is even more alarming. I feel like it's been made for the sole purpose of declaring herself as the true traitor. It's as if she took ruru's earlier post about the traitor as an inquiry and is responding to it in fashion.

So,

my case on Sky is she is the Traitor

Sir, don't do this to me. I will not hesitate to tell the class why I think this is wrong, especially from you.

again, the "ill explain why... haha jk i wont, dont wanna out alt" feels really wrong to me
theres nothing about it really that feels all that right to me
if ur gonna say ur gonna explain why, be ready to explain it

these are sorta the defending posts of frank i mentioned earlier:

Some peoe form reads differently/at different rates

@GE

the slots that I'm most interested in right now (hws/sky/cjv) are all afk

well I guess I'm interested in this: how are you reading frank/hws/sky/antihero/enigma?

I'm actually pretty interested in your answer here

Frank I'm not sure on, I don't really get the hate
hws kinda feels like something is amiss
sky I think the inactivity is not really indicative of anything, but I don't really know what to make of their content yet
antihero I haven't seen a reason to be skeptical of yet
Enigma has felt lurky, I'd forgotten h was in the game until someone else mentioned him and he seems to have slipped back away.

u, urself screwed urself over by saying those reads were rushed, but yet u had a couple of hours to answer questions.
last i checked, if people are happy with ur lynch because u arent posting content, ud focus more time on actually making the reads, not trying to look productive by posting rushed reads, and then saying that u had a couple of hours to answer questions.

had u not said that those reads were rushed, id probably have dismissed it, yet by the fact u said they were rushed, it proves to me u are scum.

this makes sense to me

this post doesn't make sense to me
if gamma agreed with it, why wouldnt he vote frank as well?
why would he keep his vote on monkey-boye?

i still feel that gamma is scum. i dont really see much town motivation from gamma atm.