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uhhh why is era's shameless prodging pinging me as towny-
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In post 802, the worst wrote:uhhh why is era's shameless prodging pinging me as towny
im maybe doing stuff in the next hour.-
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111 this is only their third post of the game and they already have p.much a full readlist and things on everyone that they can. Then gives a wishy washy read on Sesq saying they are probably TWTBAW, which I normally find is scum trying to WK town and because they know someone is town. Talks about Keyser active scumhunting, which is kinda NAI because anyone can “scumhunt” first one I see they think is scummy is Volxen, which is a read of “his contributions are kind of active lurking,” like… “What?” This almost seems like an attempt for early towncred if volxen flips. Seems kinda ehh about irrelephant TR’ing NSG for “game-solvey” but they themselves talked about Keyser genuinely Scumhunting.
142 hrmmm looking above their SR on Reundo is pretty much entrance comments so this is an ok vote and keeps In touch with their reads. But the “ugh thanks, I forgot” seemed kinda forced.
153not just this but another before this, they’re talking a LOT about 2.718 and slight defending him with their posts. I dont think this means much as their slot flipped town, but it could be pocketing/towncred
202 “im awful at finding scum but ill try”
You have been trying
Whose to say your awful?
To me this reads as a reason to actually not find scum, by deprecating yourself and saying your bad at scum hunting
239 where did this naked vote come from??
345and this kinda-naked vote after saying you like them as a TR, but you come back with saying its a shitread and voting them…
375nothing really bad here, but somehow they already think they have the game to 3 scum out of 6 players? Which seems overconfident to me, and they said they dont normally have confidence in 202
408this is now the third time naked voting Volxen, although at least they had reasoning for the SR.
448 in the mindset of an Ausuka/volxen team “Do we risk the flip or can we change?”
this is their D1 ISO that i got and im getting the impression they are probably scum-
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Hmm... I've been thinking about this, and I've decided that Toranaga probably is the scummier one out of the two. I could sort of get Ausuka's thought process throughout D1, but with Toranaga, he seemed to subtly push volxen throughout the day but never actually voted him until the last second. Doesn't really scream that towny to me, tbh. Also, I'm kind of just running out of things to post about. I'll just park my vote here for the time being.In post 784, Keyser Söze wrote:@Reundo - help me with Toranaga and Ausuka.
Both can’t be scum... so either both town, or one scum?
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In post 166, Toranaga wrote:volxen/sesq/271 all fine lynchesIn post 402, Toranaga wrote:
VOTE: volxenIn post 399, the worst wrote:hot take: we need to hammer Sesq who will do nothing to defend themselves or flashwagon volxen who is one rung townier and will become extremely obvious later if scum
volxen made a lot of scumsplaining and description posts that added no leans and didn't help the game move forward. I think he has a bigger chance of being scum than sesq who is probably kind of... incoherent? regardless of what they rand.
i dont see how this is any worse than an RvS vote on volxen, a naked vote on volxen, a little explanation, and then another vote on volxen-
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funny, I would scumread myself over that but I actually think it's less partner indicative from Tor. I would have comfortably seen d1 out without that cw ever even forming if he hadn't posted so quickly lol.-
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Reundo, do you really consider town!suka/scum!anaga to be more likely than t/t here?-
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quackIn post 811, the worst wrote:funny, I would scumread myself over that but I actually think it's less partner indicative from Tor. I would have comfortably seen d1 out without that cw ever even forming if he hadn't posted so quickly lol.-
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not exactly townreading him but don't have all that specific reasons to scumread him either. waiting on his explanation for his dunn readIn post 798, Irrelephant11 wrote:Okay hi great I'm catching up what do you think of Tora rn?
how did your golf tournament go?In post 799, Eragon wrote:oh my god im the most awesomest FM player ever(complete /s)
i definitley didnt fall asleep at my desk, wake up and shut down my computer, losing all the open windows, then went to my golf tournement and forgot about everything.
Truly, none of this actually happened. (/s)-
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I laughed at this and then came back and saw it again and wondered why you're so comfortable around me and why you're not really sorting anyoneIn post 658, Nauci wrote:Lol Irrelephant I love that you also check for daychat every time
It feels like it should make a huge difference to use because we used it so much but most scum threads I see are kinda tumbleweedsIn post 661, Toranaga wrote:when have I directed attention off wagon though? I came in, read the wagons, thought volxen was scummier and booya it was scum
the crowd goes wild woohoo
I see now what you think I meant - I'm not saying you tried to move attention off-wagon D1, I'm saying you started D2 by suggesting we vote someone off wagon. I think volxen was an easy (maybe even preferred) bus that any scum would have been happy to participate in. I see no reason to focus exclusively on the players who didn't vote volxen.In post 663, Toranaga wrote:I am interested in where I tried to drive attention off wagon. that literally did not happen at all
It's not scummy, but it is associative. If I started D1 as scum with volxen and GNB and the game state was lurky crap, I would have posted very much like you did. Then when the game started moving and you got an active, helpful partner, it would make sense for you to get more active. I see as I'm writing this how your activity might? be more tied to the game state than to the arrival of the duck, but while looking at the pair of you it stood out to me that your "welcome tw!!" post was the beginning of your srs playngIn post 665, Toranaga wrote:-Has lots of interactions with tw that are really very friendly and (significantly) once tw joined the game Tor was much more interested in playing
I like how enjoying to play with certain people is scummy to you irrelephant
Yeah this makes no sense, Ausuka also helped dunk on scum. Why does her vote get to be scummy but yours doesn't? I also don't think her vote movement is "opportunistic scum being opportunistic" because flip/flopping readily onto any available wagon isn't as "opportunistic" when the first flip and the last flop were on a partner.In post 666, Toranaga wrote:instead of trying to lynch the people who dunked on scum yesterday, just look at other slots. just today. it's day 2. look at ausuka's vote movement, it's scummy. I have no reason to townread anything she said today either. NSG is probably scum as well.
Though I take the point from Eragon earlier this page about Ausuka maybe trying to make room for flip/flopping again post-claim.
-maybeIn post 667, the worst wrote:In post 657, Irrelephant11 wrote:Any thoughts on this? tw has come across as feeling v towny in tone but I can't get over the combo of
-GNB's weirdness
-volxen's long, drawn out nullread of the slot
-tw's TMI of the lynchplaystyle
either a half assed read from scum or absolutely abysmal theatre
i was intoxicated and literally laughed at loud at how bad the watcher claim was, do you disagree? xD
pedit: ya tora and i are scumbuddies irl
-this doesn't actually make me see it as less associative - I think volxen is pretty new to mafia? So "absolutely abysmal theatre", while rude, is kinda what I think I'd expect
pedit: if you're caught up, Isurely you've seen Keyser and me casing Tora?-
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ebwopIn post 815, Irrelephant11 wrote:-maybe
-this doesn't actually make me see it as less associative - I think volxen is pretty new to mafia? So "absolutely abysmal theatre", while rude, is kinda what I think I'd expect
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Educate me on why this conversation is t/t. I think both of them have decent scum equity, and they probably both need to be lynched unless the other flips scum. I don't either looks any scummier than the other in their conversation alone, but as a whole I just view Toranaga a teeny bit scummier than Ausuka. That being said, I didn't really look into Eragon's ISO dive on Ausuka before posting, so maybe Ausuka actually is the scummier one here. I'd be surprised if they both flipped town, honestly.In post 812, the worst wrote:Reundo, do you really consider town!suka/scum!anaga to be more likely than t/t here?-
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I mean volxy is inexperienced but my impressions of him are that he's actually pretty smart. I wouldn't expect smart inexperienced scum to have such bad associatives, no... I'd expect outright bad scum to fall for that kind of thing.In post 815, Irrelephant11 wrote:-maybe
-this doesn't actually make me see it as less associative - I think volxen is pretty new to mafia? So "absolutely abysmal theatre", while rude, is kinda what I think I'd expect
pedit: if you're caught up, Isurely you've seen Keyser and me casing Tora?
anyway I'm probably biased on this particular subject, like we're probably just not gonna see eye to eye on it but I think it's a pretty one dimensional take
@Reundo, given your confidence I probably owe Tora vs Ausuka a reread. I thought the way they approached each other felt pretty genuine once all the cards were on the table. they obviously haven't been townreading each other but it's felt to me more like jank reads than setting up mislynches :s-
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as for casing Tora, I see it and I get where you're coming from. I'll think on it a little later but I'm kinda distracted by Dunn and Nauci for now...-
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