Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[Light Ethos]

Looking forward to seeing how hard day talk has been shitting on me this game.

[Light Ethos]

yeah TW, Krazy, Sasha can be scum.
I think Voyagers slot is a crucial key to solving this puzzle

Why Voyager's instead of one of the other inactives? (Or is that homework I'm supposed to do on my own?)

[Saudade]

Because he's a veteran player I think and I can demand more from him than others

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would you flipping green make us consider redNaomi? Why can’t that be done without that? Why can’t Naomi be green pushing greenyou?

However I’m not really caring to push you this day phase, as J can see you coming from both alignmentse

[Crimson97]

How does a previous game affect this one?

are you specifically looking for a response from FL because I nearly keyboard warrior'd this post

He suggests that you're green because you fake claimed gunsmith on a previous game. I really don't see the connection.

[Crimson97]

Well was meant to do this ealier today, but here we go, another round of me spamming theorising ect.

You can't have it both ways, Naomi. Either I am scum or Crimson and Manatee are scum. There isn't a plausible world in which all three of us are scum.

Prove it.

Sure. Flip me green now.
VOTE: Light Ethos

Don't self vote. Literally pointless and is scummy af.

Why is it pointless? Why is it scummy?

You supposedly know you're town and shouldn't be wasting time on self voting. Only three times i've seen people self vote is:
-RVS.
-As noob scum to prove that they are not afraid of being lynched.
-As frustrated town. Most of the time this doesn't help and only worsens their image even more.

[Crimson97]

You probably can’t even explain why you’re putting me to red for having a different opinion.

Didn't move you to pure red, just a Fos. Why? Because, exactly, you have a different opinion than everyone and that you are very vocal and fervent about it. It makes me look like your with him. Not scummy in itself, more like guilt by association. If the others think Manatee is red, then you might be too from what I am seeing. Not accusing you formally, just seeing you as suspicious.

different doesn't always mean bad, having a view that differs from others shows your thinking about the game normally, it can also mean your defending someone for credit later on (called white knighting or WK for short) sometimes a differing view point leads to wagons like LE and sometimes it leads no where special, like profil. If your lucky you can also strike a TvT up where by the end your certain you was dealing with a green (like I did with flavour, though that wasn't a major diffing as not much had happened)

Sometimes it can also be used as a reaction test, but I'll let someone else explain that.

As for chainsawing, thats a term used when you attack someone who is attacking your partner. by making them look worse you can start a counter trian or just make people doubt the validity of the push. it could also be called trying to discredit i guess.

Oh so it's ok for Sasha to have a different opinion but if think Flavor v you is TvS then i'm scum?

[Crimson97]

Who self votes and honestly expects it to go as far as a lynch, especially as like 2nd on the wagon or whatever silliness that was

I bet I can self vote and go afk for the rest of the day and not get lynched

most likely.

but the only reasons I know for self vote is red's self hammering to shut down discussion early.

After this game, you'll see that this is an example of a green self-voting to give credibility to a suspicion of a player that misrepresented posts to make a case. Nobody has you as scum. To my knowledge, only Krazy has you as possible scum. You've been very loud this game and had the good fortune of having a nice back and forth with someone who is town early enough in the game that it bought you credibility. It would take a lot to shake your credibility this game, and a green flip on me would do that.

I also think Naomi's possible scum from her interaction with Flavor.

@Crimson:
1. What's your take on the ongoing disagreement between Naomi and me?
2. Do you lean town on Flavor Leaf after his push on Krazy?

Some posts from Naomi are solid buty overall i don't really like her.
Flavor feels like misguided town to me.

[Light Ethos]

Why would you flipping green make us consider redNaomi? Why can’t that be done without that? Why can’t Naomi be green pushing greenyou?

I'm the push that she's putting the most effort into. I've given multiple examples of her misrepresenting my posts and gave a scum motivation for why she would target me and stick with it. If I flip green, the town players still living have an incentive to go back and look at the interactions between the two of us more closely.

I don't think green!Naomi misrepresents posts to make a case like she did with me. If she does, then that's just how she plays.
In an ideal world, you don't need to flip me green to see that she's misrepresenting my posts to reach for a case on me. Like I said earlier, it seemed to me that of the active town players in the game, red!Naomi isn't possible without confirmed green!Light Ethos.

However I’m not really caring to push you this day phase, as J can see you coming from both alignmentse

Fair enough. From what I see, only profii really is right now. We can revisit this another Day.
UNVOTE:

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m the only one not misguided, Crimson.

That’s a discredit by Crimson protecting Krazy subtly.

Scum points for Crimson.

[profii]

I'm what now

[Saudade]

VOTE: Sasha
VOTE: Sasha
VOTE: Sasha
VOTE: Sasha
VOTE: Sasha

[Sashaddin]

Since this is the first vote on me anyone ever casted, can I have a reason or two so I can try to defend myself? I want to know why you think I'm scum.

[Creature]

Only Light Ethos is ever going to interact with me?

[Creature]

Maybe-not-so-spicy read:

Flavor Leaf is town

[Creature]

lol how many selfvoters are there?

Unfortunate for you, but your slot was self-voting for most of the game.

and you still self-voting?

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe-not-so-spicy read:

Flavor Leaf is town

Town read me again, I dare you. See what happens.

[Creature]

Maybe-not-so-spicy read:

Flavor Leaf is town

Town read me again, I dare you. See what happens.

???

[Creature]

Am I supposed to not townread you?

[Flavor Leaf]

Man, you were supposed to take the dare, and I was gonna go...

“Aight Creature’s conftown.”

Now you’re just regular town...

[Saudade]

Which slot did you replace Creature

[Saudade]

I dont expect you to reread this 50 page game but what do you think about the worst, sasha and... Krazy(?)
=]

[Flavor Leaf]

Which slot did you replace Creature

He’s Manatee, so i was already town reading the slot.

Meta dictates this is townCreature too.

[Krazy]

Meta dictates this is townCreature too.

FL you trolling now?

[Flavor Leaf]

So we’re lynching off of that Manatee wagon

Krazy, Doughboy, TW, Profii, Sasha.

TW/Doughboy for reasons shouldn’t be on the table for today.

I don’t really have a strong lean for Profii either way.

Krazy/Sasha it is, then.

Krazy should definitely be the one, though.