In post 1188, Almost50 wrote:Btw, I've just woke up and I shouldn't be exhausting my delicate mind still, but that suggestion is so weird to me I can't help but consider possibilities:
1- What if Frank is TOWN (I don't see it, but what IF) and Gamma is scum and is counting on there being no Vig to get an almost guaranteed mislynch on D2?
2- What if Frank is BP and Gamma is his P and is going to argue Frank is alive on D2 because there is no Vig, or is using him to out the Vig if existent?
I guess I can stop here for now. The point isn't arguing Frank's alignment. It's trying to figure out why Town!Gamma would come up with the suggestion as I don't see the benefit, so I'll just wait for him to show up and explain what he thought.
1) True, but we would know that Gamma is scum then, no?
am i just overthinking this?
2) i feel like if gamma does try to, then we'd know that gamma is evil once frank flips
now, if gamma is trying to get vig to out, then that's different
In post 1190, Almost50 wrote:
You suggested the alternative plan and didn't mention the lynch w.o replacement. Furthermore, your vote isn't on him for the first plan to go through. I suggest we lynch anyway and call it a day.
i agree we lynch and call it a day, this day is going on for wayyy too long imo
In post 1197, ruru wrote:if frank/tw are t/s maybe he lolhammers and we lose two claims
can you please explain this?
In post 1198, BuJaber wrote:@vex - in the bolded I was saying that your setup spec was premature imo and might lead us to false assumptions by doing without having any additional info via claims/flips. The only thing we know now that we didn't know before the game started is that creature is IC and therefore scum didn't pick 0 powers, they picked at least 1.
In this game the setup spec might not hurt town so much, but it doesn't help town either because it's hypothetical and might encourage some people to jump to early conclusions that end up being false. But there was one good thing that came out of it which is that you became widely townread.
i did it to try to get discussion going plus get us out of rvs to help try to maximize the time we had to talk
In post 1200, Almost50 wrote: In post 1198, BuJaber wrote:The only thing we know now that we didn't know before the game started is that creature is IC and therefore scum didn't pick 0 powers, they picked at least 1.
False assumption (Coming from BuJ I'd say it might be a Town slip, but don't quote me on that just yet.)
too late, already quoted you on it ;3
In post 1206, ejjinami wrote:and hey vex, have we ever played together before?
sry xd
my memory is terrible
no, you played in
donner party as the sk which i modded, which had MM in it.
that game was amazing for town
In post 1210, HeWhoSwims wrote:Is it bad to mention that I think the Vex Frank argument was sorta stupid and that I think scum in general would be bad off arguing against it as hard as Frank did? Except if it's bussing?
eli5 this please? i'm not sure what you mean. i think you're saying that its bad for frank to try to push the argument as hard as he did unless he was bussing me?
if that's the case, why would he try bussing me, someone who's widely tr'd?
why wouldn't it be the other way around?
In post 1214, the worst wrote:ohey my current Pokemon go buddy is a larvitar. I wonder if I should name it in your honour.
ew, who plays pokemon go anymore?
In post 1220, ejjinami wrote:holly shit, no xD that was totally wrong
there's a thing on your profile that links to your main… dunno if you're aware of it or not (you prob are, but lol)
I don't think we've ever played together before, but hey, that's cool! xD
yea, i purposefully linked my alts wiki page back to my mains wiki page
In post 1226, ejjinami wrote:
Vex seems to be very enthusiastic early on in a way that isn’t very productive. That’s only the first few posts, but I didn’t get a great first impression tbh
like i said, i did it to try to get us out of rvs and maximize discussion time
In post 29, Vex Vience wrote:
to answer ur points:
if i do say im an alt, what does that mean for u?
out of 6 prs, joat counters 3 of them: tracker because ninja, bg and rber because strongman, (strongman ignores bg and rber)
also i do agree that daytalk is something scum will 100% take however i feel that joat may be a very close second pick
i dont think scum would wanna take bp or recruit traitor because with 3 modifiers, the odds of vig appearing is 47%, basically a coinflip, and regardless its a useless modifier
vig just outs themselves once they hit a bp and then the bp mafia goon flips
sure if theres an rber that could fuck things up a bit but thats so unlikely that its negliable
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also to expand on why i dont think maf would recruit traitor:
it puts them down a mod first off, plus if theres no vig (and they took two mods), they can instantly tell if they hit the traitor barring any rber fucking with their results
traitor is 1s bp, and if the person they hit didnt die and they know they werent rb'd, they know instantly who the traitor is
i could see scum taking it as a third mod if they really really wanted it, but other than that, i highly doubt they would’ve recruited traitor
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i think scum were very likely to take:
daytalk, joat and rolecop if they took three
i don't think they did, and im 100% sure they did take daytalk meaning for me its between {joat/rc} for scum second mod
Vex’s ideas about the setup seem stupidly honest. -_- I don’t think he’s faking the confidence in his logic, so if he’s scum I think it’s likely that he doesn’t have teammates that would be able to correct him.
That’s giving me more town vibes though. The logic has a really honest vibe to it and I think it’s unlikely that scum would be so enthusiastic to give out the role list choices, especially with that level of confidence. (ugh, mostly taking that back cuz of the statistics… but I got mostly townie vibes from him anyways, so the read doesn’t really change much)
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trying to make sure that i get what you're saying:
if im scum, i am 100% traitor, correct?
however, that likely isn't the case, instead, im town, right?
In post 1228, ejjinami wrote:
If I don't need to, then I wouldn't want to claim. That's not meant to be a soft btw
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Regardless of my role, I'm town, so giving out my role as VT would only make it easier for scum to PR-hunt (if there are any additional PRs) and I obviously shouldn't claim as a PR.
I don't really care how scummy my previous slot owner was, if I manage to save the slot without having to claim, then it's obviously more beneficial than if I do claim
so nah
uhh... i dont really like this post
i kinda like the tone, but the last part was kinda is odd to me, (the "it's obviously more beneficial" part)
if you claim you're bodyguard, then scum will target you n1 imo, because obviously you're jumping on one of your town-reads or creature
if you arent bg, then you're just another possible target for them n1, meaning you should claim vt
my thing is that not claiming, sure while it does help, it also hurts town
sure scum don't know what you are, but we also dont know what you are
In post 1231, ejjinami wrote:
why am I scum?
let's talk about that first
or if you think the logic is wrong, then we can talk about it
not sure how much longer will I manage to stay awake though, but lol, go for it
your slot had really weak reads, and then said that it was anti-town of me to make a wall directed at creature telling him to be more active because either he or i was getting shot n1
then when i made the wall directed at him, about his reads and my creature wall, he instantly jumped on the reads, not the creature wall
/shrug
In post 1269, skitter30 wrote:why is this day still going?
i haven't read anything since like sunday but i guess i'll read through now
no idea tbh
In post 1274, skitter30 wrote: In post 1223, ejjinami wrote:Start of page 6, going to sleep
As for now my biggest SR would be prob skitter, but tbh I’m not even sure how confident should I be in the logic cuz I’ve never SR anyone else for that before
In short, some of her posts made me feel that she cares a lot about her tone and about the way other people see her. There are stuff which indicate that she put in effort to make her posts “tonally good” or “tonally read in only one way”, which is generally more scum than town motivated.
There’ll be a bit more about that in the catchup
Not placing my vote now, cuz it’s like… page 6, but this is where my vote would be if there was no more content besides that
i will admit to rewriting posts to get them to sound the way i want sometimes
i do that as both alignments tho
i mean, i think everyone would do this no?
In post 1277, skitter30 wrote: In post 1227, the worst wrote: In post 1223, ejjinami wrote:In short, some of her posts made me feel that she cares a lot about her tone and about the way other people see her. There are stuff which indicate that she put in effort to make her posts “tonally good” or “tonally read in only one way”, which is generally more scum than town motivated.
can you throw me some quotes which support this? i'm not totally convinced i see it coming from scum before it comes from town but would be keen to get in behind your eyes here
setup stuff is 5% interesting in this particular setup
for example scum taking no powers whatsoever is slightly beneficial for scum
as scum depending on who my partner was (if they were someone i prolly wouldn't jam super well with for example) i'd probably take recruit traitor and nothing else
if they were someone i have really good synergy w and wanna play scum with i'd take daytalk and nothing else
but ya there's a billion different opinions on which powers to take/not take in this setup so whatever
back to getting red flips
bolded - this also feels off tonally
how so?
i agree, i think groupscum would be aware of who their partner was replaced by
In post 1262, ejjinami wrote:And hey, can someone explain what’s going on with the avatar change conversation? How did sky change her avatar?
sky said that she'd post later tonight, then said she was watching avatar, then changed her avi to include "im town" in it
In post 1291, ruru wrote:we really need the other slots to be playing the game around now somebody do something please
thats what im doing, i just want day to be over tbh
