In post 1377, Naomi-Tan wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how would pushing red!crimson as red!Naomi play into red's wincon if Crimson was getting little to no pressure off anyone but us two and not very high pressure either? wouldn't it be better to let them live on to D2 or D3 and either naturally die or help with Miss lynches?
At the time you started to push on me, you hadn't been involved in the game much beyond your deep interaction with Flavor Leaf. That push didn't gain very much traction with anyone, but it did buy you a town lean from most third-parties in the game. You got busy, so you stepped back for some time while profii and I were going back and forth and while saudade was trying to get a push on Frank going. You came back, acknowledged that you needed to get back involved again, and did so by choosing to target me and to pin Crimson and I to each other. Crimson hasn't taken much of a role in the game, so you switched to Crimson but still stood by your theory that we're both scum.
Why is this a valid strategy for red!Naomi on a team with red!Crimson?
Well, you need to look like you're doing something this game. Posting a lot of short commentary to things after the fact can only buy you so much favor with the town. You put yourself on record for being against safe votes, and you characterized votes on players who were inactive as safe. Thus, if you decide to push on a player who is inactive, it looks even worse for you if that player isn't even scum. People are already leaning town on you, and as I posted earlier in the thread, more people than not have leaned toward buying into your case against me. If you're able to nail a scum player that has already arguably been dead weight for scum anyway, and you're able to pull off that connection you set up between Crimson and I, then you come out ahead of where you were before all of this started for two reasons:
1. You buy yourself a ton of credibility for going out on your own, pushing your own read, and being correct about it.
2. You get a quick trade kill on a town player who is actively following and engaged in the thread.
Those two gains are worth the cost of red!Crimson. Even if all you get is the town cred, that's a powerful thing to be able to leverage for the rest of the game, especially if red!Naomi's other scum buddy another active player in the game.
Additionally, I would argue that right now, red!Naomi's push on red!Crimson is not gaining traction.
The game has stalled out while replacements are found. saudade, the player who most people have locked as town, is focusing on Sashaddin and Krazy right now. So is Flavor Leaf. It would take a lot to convince them to go elsewhere right now, so you have little risk of getting red!Crimson killed right now anyway.
It's safe for you to go after Crimson with your vote right now.
This allows you to continue to build the groundwork of that long-term plan of linking Crimson to me, getting Crimson killed at some point, benefiting from the town cred it buys you by saying "I told you so", trading up by trading Crimson for me, and continuing to the end with your other scum buddy.
In post 1377, Naomi-Tan wrote:
Basically I thought it was unprovable and am right in the fact that it can't really be proved with words, a self flip was not something I thought anyone would try.
A creative solution was found.
sorry...