Open 735: Watchmen Wanted - Game Over!
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northsidegal (2)- Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Dunnstral (2)- northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078
Ausuka (2)- Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Keyser Söze (1)- Nauci 725
Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043, the worst 1094
The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).
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why do you act so confident about seeing the difference between my scum nervous tics and general nervous tics lmao I have a very weird typing styleIn post 1124, Nauci wrote:scum nervousness tics-
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Lingering post catch up questions and responses:
- @Keyser928 Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like that?
- @eragon921 I had forgotten what the flips were while I was catching up early because it had to be spread out over so many sessions; I didn't have much of a read on e's posts at that point w/o knowing the flip.
- @NSG918 You were only first on the wagon at that time because others (including keyser and irrelephant) had voted but unvoted
- @irrelephant841 Irrelephant, is TW's explanation for your post the theory you meant?
Reundo where did you go day 2 :< :< :< I was so happy with that town read but you can't just rest on your laurels buddy
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I mean I think I'm seeing the same psychological reactions but I'll comb through your town games and see if they're present there as wellIn post 1127, the worst wrote:
why do you act so confident about seeing the difference between my scum nervous tics and general nervous tics lmao I have a very weird typing styleIn post 1124, Nauci wrote:scum nervousness tics-
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damnit I forgot to close my listIn post 1128, Nauci wrote:Lingering post catch up questions and responses:
- @Keyser928 Why did me scum reading you for the first 8 pages make you want to scum read/re-evaluate my slot? What would be the scum train of thought to do something like that?
- @eragon921 I had forgotten what the flips were while I was catching up early because it had to be spread out over so many sessions; I didn't have much of a read on e's posts at that point w/o knowing the flip.
- @NSG918 You were only first on the wagon at that time because others (including keyser and irrelephant) had voted but unvoted
- @irrelephant841 Irrelephant, is TW's explanation for your post the theory you meant?
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Show me what you see when you do plsIn post 1131, Nauci wrote:
I mean I think I'm seeing the same psychological reactions but I'll comb through your town games and see if they're present there as wellIn post 1127, the worst wrote:
why do you act so confident about seeing the difference between my scum nervous tics and general nervous tics lmao I have a very weird typing styleIn post 1124, Nauci wrote:scum nervousness tics-
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what makes you think i'm english?In post 969, Toranaga wrote:I like that I voted an english girl with a gif from an english show
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i guess i'm doing gamma emerald style catch-ups now
the world of being washed up, what a life-
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by the way ducky when you refer to (The Tell™) for nauci, does it by any chance have any relation to the team mafia tiebreaker game / did it come from mathdino?-
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what game was this? not doubting you, just wondering so i can look backIn post 990, Toranaga wrote:one of the games she posted so much so hard she was still top poster d3 and died n1
and it was a lot of... meta diving people, making very deep reads
this one was because of a long v/la thoughIn post 993, Nauci wrote:lurk then replace out :< :< :<
i'm liking the meta reads much more for town than the catch-up posts honestly, although i'm still not sure how actually town-indicative they are - after all, meta reads are pretty factual; it's a lot of just straight up pointing to evidence and a lot less of your own personal take on things, so they can come from town or scum equally as often. i think as scum (at least, in one game) i used meta reads as a crutch to avoid having to give real reads (not to say that i don't use meta a lot as town or that you should take it as a scumtell - don't do that.)In post 999, Toranaga wrote:nauci is town as fuck
in terms of why i didn't like the catch-up posts for town, it's because they reminded me a lot of a scumgame i played on a secret alt once where if you just sort of read through the thread and react to a lot of posts it comes out as just a lot of words which people are inclined to towntell
and also i still haven't seenThe Tellassuming thatThe Tellis what i think it is.-
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i'm not making any comment specifically on the context of this game, but moreso this as an idea in generalIn post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:In the green: Nauci is almost certainly town, as I think volxen was being survivalistic at the end there by trying to get sesq to unvote correctly and move wagons back to sesq
i think a good case study for why what you're saying here may not necessarily always hold true and should definitely be re-examined come later days (or today; nothing says you have to wait) is Mini Normal 1996, which i modded. early on day 1 pretty much the entire scumteam got caught - that is, at different points throughout the day all of them had major wagons start to form on them. they recognized this, and as a strategy decided to immediately all turn against eachother and hardbus. scum got lynched day one, but going down he made his partners look really good by contributing to their wagons. the scumteam didn't even know for which of them the lynch would actually go through on, but no matter who it was they would turn out looking good.
and so that's exactly what happened, scum got cleared from associations for a few days before i think some role shenanigans brought it back for town.
my main takeaway from that game was that a scumteam that's caught early on might turn on itself as a strategy, pushing one person down to raise the rest of them up. there was actually a time where i was considering making a "reminders / advice / 'words of wisdom' " section on my wiki and including that there, but i never got around to it.
anyways, that just reminded me of that thing that i had been thinking about for a while but never really had a chance to say.-
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there's no way to tell if a conversation will end up being alignment-indicative before you start it. thus, your point that i'm "wasting words" on something NAI holds no water. once i realized that i didn't really find GNB scummy for his viewpoint and stated that, i pretty much dropped the conversationIn post 1044, Toranaga wrote:she is writing many words that lead the game nowhere, instead of pursuing things she finds alignment indicative.except onlywhenother peoplebrought it up.
shut up!! i'm never talking about the commas point again. i've already said everything there is to say about it.In post 1044, Toranaga wrote:again. this is GNB's nonread all over again. she is voting dunnstral without talking about him at all in any meaningful way, and then starts going over... commas? and if he is now talking in commas, so what? is that anything indicative? why is she not talking about her actual scumread? why are the things NSG points out so blatantly not scummy things at all?
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"not pushing" things is not scum indicative because that's who i am as a person. it's been a while since i've pushed something very hard. the only times i really push scumreads hard is on secret alts where i care less about being wrong and as such am less meticulous. obviously a meticulous style when i'm as busy as i am recently ends up being more of a lazy style as i put off things more and more (i.e. metadiving people), but that's who i am.
"oh no, she's not """progressing the gamestate!""""
want to know who isn't doing that but is also actually scum? dunnstral.-
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"towny"In post 1065, Ausuka wrote:oh ok then i'll just follow consensus reads. dunnstral and me are the scumteam. game solved yay
"ausuka probs v"
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Your post reminds me of the game mhsmith post for his Test Your VCA Skills thread (it's a very very good thread; anyone who hasn't read it really ought to).In post 1138, northsidegal wrote:
i'm not making any comment specifically on the context of this game, but moreso this as an idea in generalIn post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:In the green: Nauci is almost certainly town, as I think volxen was being survivalistic at the end there by trying to get sesq to unvote correctly and move wagons back to sesq
i think a good case study for why what you're saying here may not necessarily always hold true and should definitely be re-examined come later days (or today; nothing says you have to wait) is Mini Normal 1996, which i modded. early on day 1 pretty much the entire scumteam got caught - that is, at different points throughout the day all of them had major wagons start to form on them. they recognized this, and as a strategy decided to immediately all turn against eachother and hardbus. scum got lynched day one, but going down he made his partners look really good by contributing to their wagons. the scumteam didn't even know for which of them the lynch would actually go through on, but no matter who it was they would turn out looking good.
and so that's exactly what happened, scum got cleared from associations for a few days before i think some role shenanigans brought it back for town.
my main takeaway from that game was that a scumteam that's caught early on might turn on itself as a strategy, pushing one person down to raise the rest of them up. there was actually a time where i was considering making a "reminders / advice / 'words of wisdom' " section on my wiki and including that there, but i never got around to it.
anyways, that just reminded me of that thing that i had been thinking about for a while but never really had a chance to say.
Also this is a vvv good post.-
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that's a classic thread! i remember reading through it.-
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is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?
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is this about meIn post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?
not sure!
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don't let me stop you
yeah. my 1138 was about why volxen's push on your slot as he was going down may not be a reason to associatevly townread you (which you agreed with). what did you think it was about?In post 1147, Nauci wrote:
is this about meIn post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?
not sure!
I'm so lost-
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still haven't read it! and noIn post 1136, northsidegal wrote:by the way ducky when you refer to (The Tell™) for nauci, does it by any chance have any relation to the team mafia tiebreaker game / did it come from mathdino?
mathdino and I didn't really talk tells a whole lot
also I tend to try and temper stuff I pick up from him to my own read style anyway :0
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