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No, you said I ignored all the “content” from the last 5 pages.
What alignment indicative posts / scum cases are you referring to?
You can’t just throw that out there and expect me not to react.
I have been fully engaged in this game thank you.
Do you think Toranaga and Dunnstral are the last two mafia goons?
If so, convince me to return back there.
Toranaga has convinced me 1) he is unlikely mafia and 2) he also convinced me I was a blind idiot for being on Dunnstral’s wagon all of today.-
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Dunnstral:
- defends scum
- opposes wagon on scum
- attacks town
- encourages wagon on town
- not motivated (or happy to be seen to not be motivated) about scum hunting
- no pro-active urgency demonstrated while being the lead wagon today
- weak ISO
- zero town cred won from D1 (Volxen bud was there for the taking)
- zero motivation to gain town cred for D2
- Lame OMGUS read
- minimal WIM
Tora opened up my eyes to town read him via WIFOM.
Scum-Dunstral would never survive to LYLO playing like this.
Proof of the pudding: he’s been in nearly everybody’s POE today, and likely some people will even want to kickstart his wagon before the deadline.-
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i am about to start my catch-up, but this post deserves a special mention.
I don't give a crap HOW rude it is, you could be the dickiest person out there and it doesnt matter(your not, just an example, hence the could), because getting angry/being rude isn't really scummy/bad.
But when you start going "If you think im scum that means your either shit or scum"
that type if post is BS and if your town, i sincerely hope you never make a post like that again as town.
if your scum, go right ahead-
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Votecount 2.17
northsidegal (2)- Toranaga 1045, Keyser Söze 1113
Dunnstral (2)- northsidegal 786, Ausuka 1078
Ausuka (2)- Eragon 920, Reundo 946
Keyser Söze (1)- Nauci 725
Not voting: Dunnstral 915, Irrelephant11 1043, the worst 1094
The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).
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i think we need a psychiatrist over here :3In post 1131, Nauci wrote:
I mean I think I'm seeing the same psychological reactions but I'll comb through your town games and see if they're present there as wellIn post 1127, the worst wrote:
why do you act so confident about seeing the difference between my scum nervous tics and general nervous tics lmao I have a very weird typing styleIn post 1124, Nauci wrote:scum nervousness tics
a lot of words and stories that all end up meaningIn post 1138, northsidegal wrote:
i'm not making any comment specifically on the context of this game, but moreso this as an idea in generalIn post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:In the green: Nauci is almost certainly town, as I think volxen was being survivalistic at the end there by trying to get sesq to unvote correctly and move wagons back to sesq
i think a good case study for why what you're saying here may not necessarily always hold true and should definitely be re-examined come later days (or today; nothing says you have to wait) is Mini Normal 1996, which i modded. early on day 1 pretty much the entire scumteam got caught - that is, at different points throughout the day all of them had major wagons start to form on them. they recognized this, and as a strategy decided to immediately all turn against eachother and hardbus. scum got lynched day one, but going down he made his partners look really good by contributing to their wagons. the scumteam didn't even know for which of them the lynch would actually go through on, but no matter who it was they would turn out looking good.
and so that's exactly what happened, scum got cleared from associations for a few days before i think some role shenanigans brought it back for town.
my main takeaway from that game was that a scumteam that's caught early on might turn on itself as a strategy, pushing one person down to raise the rest of them up. there was actually a time where i was considering making a "reminders / advice / 'words of wisdom' " section on my wiki and including that there, but i never got around to it.
anyways, that just reminded me of that thing that i had been thinking about for a while but never really had a chance to say.
"Don't make a confident association read on Nauci"
well i guess you cant be wrong if you dont try, so there thatIn post 1140, northsidegal wrote:"not pushing" things is not scum indicative because that's who i am as a person. it's been a while since i've pushed something very hard. the only times i really push scumreads hard is on secret alts where i care less about being wrong and as such am less meticulous. obviously a meticulous style when i'm as busy as i am recently ends up being more of a lazy style as i put off things more and more (i.e. metadiving people), but that's who i am.
"oh no, she's not """progressing the gamestate!""""
want to know who isn't doing that but is also actually scum? dunnstral.
but you also cant be right.
IMO you have to try to play, then if your wrong, so what!? learn from it and do even better the next time.
if you play one game, and get 1 scum out of 3, next game get 2!
lolIn post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?
not sure!
oopsIn post 1147, Nauci wrote:
is this about meIn post 1145, northsidegal wrote:is it a towntell to agree with someone else pointing out the potentially questionable reasoning for a townread on yourself?
not sure!
I'm so lost-
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it was more of a joke than anything serious. i don't really think that if people don't townread me they're bad or scum-
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Eragon Mafia Scum
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Tor never flips goon(i stg if you pocketed me again Tor )In post 1175, Keyser Söze wrote:No, you said I ignored all the “content” from the last 5 pages.
What alignment indicative posts / scum cases are you referring to?
You can’t just throw that out there and expect me not to react.
I have been fully engaged in this game thank you.
Do you think Toranaga and Dunnstral are the last two mafia goons?
If so, convince me to return back there.
Toranaga has convinced me 1) he is unlikely mafia and 2) he also convinced me I was a blind idiot for being on Dunnstral’s wagon all of today.
dunnstral could very well scum, and im almost confident, even though that towny unvote thingy he did.
also Nauci never said you ignored "all the content" from the last 5 pages.
they said "I dont likehow littleHe's reacted to the content of the last 5 pages"
so dont try to twist their words to make it seem like you are doing as much as everyone else and that they are wolfy reaching.
most of the stuff you put down should be scummy, but then you said Tora makes you think dunn is town by WIFOM.In post 1176, Keyser Söze wrote:Dunnstral:
- defends scum
- opposes wagon on scum
- attacks town
- encourages wagon on town
- not motivated (or happy to be seen to not be motivated) about scum hunting
- no pro-active urgency demonstrated while being the lead wagon today
- weak ISO
- zero town cred won from D1 (Volxen bud was there for the taking)
- zero motivation to gain town cred for D2
- Lame OMGUS read
- minimal WIM
Tora opened up my eyes to town read him via WIFOM.
Scum-Dunstral would never survive to LYLO playing like this.
Proof of the pudding: he’s been in nearly everybody’s POE today, and likely some people will even want to kickstart his wagon before the deadline.
and whats the point of the proof pudding?
please explain this.In post 1177, Toranaga wrote:keyser is town as fuck
Im in shock you read it that strongly.
How?
yeeIn post 1178, Toranaga wrote:glad we're seeing the same things wrt dunn
ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did badIn post 1179, Keyser Söze wrote:I do feel cleaner coming off his wagon. I was being lazy and short sighted.
ok, good.In post 1183, northsidegal wrote:-shrug-
it was more of a joke than anything serious. i don't really think that if people don't townread me they're bad or scum-
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Keyser Söze Jack of All Trades
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@Eragon - why is your vote not on me?
You have just listed many (bad) reasons why you strongly think I am scum.
Btw, I never said I was "god like" - I'm a below-average mafiascum player with still lots to learn. However, my reads have been on point so far this game. If Dunnstral and tora flip town, I'll feel even better about my developing game-
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only the real keyser sözzle would call himself sub par. nice try verbal
Let's lynch this cheeky fuck-
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because your not my strongest SR, because most of the reasons are more like, post thoughts and tonal reads? along with a bit of playstyle maybe? so im not sure how stongly I SR you rn, also becuase i havent voted since making those posts o.0In post 1186, Keyser Söze wrote:@Eragon - why is your vote not on me?
You have just listed many (bad) reasons why you strongly think I am scum.
Btw, I never said I was "god like" - I'm a below-average mafiascum player with still lots to learn. However, my reads have been on point so far this game. If Dunnstral and tora flip town, I'll feel even better about my developing game
and also partly because i just forgot about the vote
then if you think that, dont tell people to re-evaluate the playerlist because they have a few SR's in your TR's, or vice versa.
people can be wrong, including you.
I want to pull up part of a document from this site
You have a better chance of dying IRL than winning the lottery.
Do not fool yourself into thinking you can call the scumteam, especially before anyone has flipped scum. Don't bother with trying to draw connections between players until one of them is dead. It's tempting! but futile.-
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I'm immortal pls recalc my lottery chances accoridntky-
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I suggest you don't get too emotional over these type of things.In post 1188, Eragon wrote:because most of the reasons are more like, post thoughts and tonal reads? along with a bit of playstyle maybe?
In this game, capital locks and bold letters should only be employed when sharing gripping/convincing/important alignment indicative evidence against a player.
As I requested earlier... what important scum alignment posts / scum cases did I fail to engage / comment on / react to?
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In post 1190, Keyser Söze wrote:In this game, capital locks and bold letters should only be employed when sharing gripping/convincing/important alignment indicative evidence against a player.I HEARTILY CONCUR!!!!!!!!-
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FTR: "self-deprecation" doesn't just come from scum.In post 1185, Eragon wrote:ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad
It is very common forhonesttownieson mafiascum to be critical of their own game-
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scumIn post 1193, Keyser Söze wrote:The worst, who do you want lynched?
responding to youKeyser Söze wrote:I don’t know what you’re currently doing.
okKeyser Söze wrote:Active lurking looking at the last few contributions.
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lol no it's notIn post 1192, Keyser Söze wrote:
FTR: "self-deprecation" doesn't just come from scum.In post 1185, Eragon wrote:ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad
It is very common forhonesttownieson mafiascum to be critical of their own game
if people were critical of their own games town winrate would skyrocket here-
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Mate's birthday tonight, lads night in tomorrow.In post 1194, the worst wrote:any plans for the weekend KeySö?
You?-
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In post 1195, Toranaga wrote:
lol no it's notIn post 1192, Keyser Söze wrote:
FTR: "self-deprecation" doesn't just come from scum.In post 1185, Eragon wrote:ahh, the self-deprecation, always the distancing from yourself being scum, because scum isnt likely to point out where they did bad
It is very common forhonesttownieson mafiascum to be critical of their own game
if people were critical of their own games town winrate would skyrocket here-
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