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[Doughboy]

As far as im concerned, previous games shouldn't be brought up,

Meta can be a very useful tool in mafia so unfortunately you’ll have to get used to it.

[EzekelRAGE]

By the way, can somebody explain, why there is such a large focus on what has been done in a previous game(s)? Reads from previous games are mostly subjective, additionally, you are relying on person x playing the same way as they did in previous games. Can somebody explain why this is efficient? Or is it just to get the ball rolling? I see no point in it.

Gonna have to ask rage. He’s the one being super defensive about my opinions of his play.

Please dont play the victim role, it doesnt suit you.

Rage does typically vote who he thinks he is scummy so that comment does raise concerns with me.

1. I brought it up cause I feel your playing different this game compared to that game.

2. I’m happy to hammer you cause you are a player who was partially responsible for town losing the last game. This game you are doing things not helpful to town. You’re either scum (which I’m not sure of yet) or bad town (which I already know is true based on last gme)

You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.

No I made a statement based off my experience of you. 1 game is still better than no games.

Provide proof, otherwise this reads to me like you were trying to add fire to a wagon.

The game we played together where you thought I was scummy and basically wouldn’t vote elsewhere or even unvote when asked.

Do I need to link it?

He was partly responsible for town losing cause he couldn’t get past somebody he found scummy to the point he defended scum which I pointed out already ye I can barely provide an example?

You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.

No I made a statement based off my experience of you. 1 game is still better than no games.

Provide proof, otherwise this reads to me like you were trying to add fire to a wagon.

The game we played together where you thought I was scummy and basically wouldn’t vote elsewhere or even unvote when asked.

Do I need to link it?

[EzekelRAGE]

@LTVNGambit Now that you pointed it out, it is odd that Guerilla hoped off that Suade train, especially with the post saying whether Suad is town or not, they have no problem with them Suade being lynched.

[Doughboy]

Please dont play the victim role, it doesnt suit you.

Not playing the victim. You did get overly defensive because of my opinion. That’s a fact. You are basically FF

[Doughboy]

Which brings me to this post.
In post 57, Doughboy wrote:
Rage does typically vote who he thinks he is scummy so that comment does raise concerns with me.

You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.
You worded it in a way to make me seem like im playing differently/scummy.

We have played 1 game together, my first game on this board.

In that game I voted day 1 because Lafayette asked for votes, I obliged.

Day 2 I voted you because I had a theory on you and didn’t like your hammer.

Day 3 where I basically made it me vs ff as the lynch, i attacked ff thru most of the day phase and never voted him, even though the lynch was guaranteed to be me vs him. When I did vote, I voted myself.

Throughout that game I made posts on how I thought something Lafayette did appeared scummy. On more than one occasion Lafayette called me out for not voting him. Again I explained I hold my votes.

So can you provide proof about how I “typically” vote who I think is scummy so early? I provided examples on how that is not the case at all.

See? Overly defensive.

[Doughboy]

Now I’m begging you. Don’t bring this shit us again

[Doughboy]

up*

[Saudade]

Alright time to stop being a delicious lynch bait

whats his name angry emotional guy - Reacted very harshly and emotionally to my attitude and stance, unvoted when I was at L-1 or L-2 or whatever, town.
Doughnut - Can't comment we've a history together and if my thought process is right the scum on my wagon wouldn't be this vocal.

EzekelRAGE can be town for now.

VOTE: Saudade

Content please.

this is scum, opportunistic jump on the wagon.

Feels like town v town to me.

informed scum content, scumslip =]


VOTE: Tommy

if the whole doughnut ezkielrage and the angry guy tunnelling guy could unvote because you guys are playing into a bad position

[Saudade]

Ezki's probably town as well but I cbb to read his walls

[EzekelRAGE]

Please dont play the victim role, it doesnt suit you.

Not playing the victim. You did get overly defensive because of my opinion. That’s a fact. You are basically FF

I didn't get overly defensive. I wanted to see why you thought the way you did, and provide proof. You instead lied and provided no proof to anything you said. Said you would ignore the situation. You are in your feelings and letting it derail the thread.

Can you stop?

You say you have learned your lesson from the last game, how about proving it and letting it go?

It seems like you still want to argue with me for some reason, just not about any of the lies you told about me to make me seem scummy.

See? Overly defensive.[/quote]
That is calling you out on a lie

Now I’m begging you. Don’t bring this shit us again

You brought it up

[Saudade]

you two should stop this

[EzekelRAGE]

you two should stop this

Honestly I'm trying to. Will just ignore him for the rest of the day phase.

Just an fyi - notice now he is arguing w/e he is trying to argue with me now trying to get the last word. Notice earlier he didn't want to provide evidence as to why i was scummy because it would be arguing and he "learned his lesson from last game."

Food for thought. I've dropped it.

[Saudade]

now vote Tommy because he's a filthy scum

[LTVNGambit]

Alright time to stop being a delicious lynch bait

whats his name angry emotional guy - Reacted very harshly and emotionally to my attitude and stance, unvoted when I was at L-1 or L-2 or whatever, town.
Doughnut - Can't comment we've a history together and if my thought process is right the scum on my wagon wouldn't be this vocal.

EzekelRAGE can be town for now.

VOTE: Saudade

Content please.

this is scum, opportunistic jump on the wagon.

Feels like town v town to me.

informed scum content, scumslip =]


VOTE: Tommy

if the whole doughnut ezkielrage and the angry guy tunnelling guy could unvote because you guys are playing into a bad position

1. There was barely a wagon to begin with it was just a handful of random votes. Also be scum or not, you shouldn't patronize somebody for trying to get content added or for trying to add content.
It isn't informed scum content, and it isn't a scumslip. First of all there is a difference between declaration and an assumption. He didn't say with certainty that they are town v town. "Feels like" is an assumption.

You are scum voting Tommy for little to no viable reasoning.
Scum-Leaning Saudade

[LTVNGambit]

As far as im concerned, previous games shouldn't be brought up,

Meta can be a very useful tool in mafia so unfortunately you’ll have to get used to it.

Its just a strawman argument. There isn't anything to it. If somebody was scum, and they failed, the next scum game they'd play differently. If somebody was scum, and they succeeded, they'd play better, which would make them play differently. If somebody was town, and they got a doctor lynched, they'd play differently the next scum game, if they got a roleblocker lynched, they'd play differently, more confidently the next time.

[LTVNGambit]

Feels like town v town to me.

informed scum content, scumslip =]


VOTE: Tommy

if the whole doughnut ezkielrage and the angry guy tunnelling guy could unvote because you guys are playing into a bad position

Okay, let's say hypothetically you are right about it. What do you think about this:

Feels like town v town to me.

I feel the same.

Ezekel ISO in the previous game shows that he does withhold his vote.

Doughboy has been doing some ballsy stuff this game if he’s scum, and the last game shows a big back and forth between him and Ezekel and that old interaction has probably painted Doughboy’s memory of him especially considering Doughboy had never mentioned Ezekel in that game until shit went down.

Or are you just not going to bother to respond because you cbb to read walls of quotes?

Ezki's probably town as well but I cbb to read his walls

Pretty lazy for a "town" don't you think?

[Doughboy]

now vote Tommy because he's a filthy scum

You can’t show up after being at l-1 and start caring about finding scum. It has to start from the beginning. Sorry you rolled scum and got caught so easily.

[Doughboy]

Side note. Is arguing common on this site? It seems like every game I play some stupid arguments happen.

[Gamma Emerald]

Saudade is a good Lynch.

He’s most likely scum here since he isn’t trying to find scum.

This is going to a long game
Not contributing doesn’t mean he’s scum ffs

[Alchemist21]

Arguing is what this entire game is about. Sometimes the arguments are stupid; sometimes they’re not.

[Alchemist21]

Hey Gamma can you answer 141 please?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Gamma has grown to like me
funny enough his reaction to me in our first game was much like Guerilla's

That’s why I made the comment about his method not working: I saw past!me in what he was doing.

Wait were you Town when you played with Saudade before? If so then why are you voting someone who’s reminding you of yourself in a previous Town game?

Yeah
But there’s a reason why I think it could be a scum push
Go back and read to post where I voted him

[Doughboy]

Saudade is a good Lynch.

He’s most likely scum here since he isn’t trying to find scum.

This is going to a long game
Not contributing doesn’t mean he’s scum ffs

Sure. That can literally be said about anything. It’s a good start though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok
That’s a reasonable response
I think you’re kinda towny rn
Also feeling LTVNGambit is town

[Doughboy]

Arguing is what this entire game is about. Sometimes the arguments are stupid; sometimes they’re not.

I mean sure arguing happens sometimes but it’s usually over something with substance. Not what happened last game or this game.